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Paleo-Conservatives Departing The Grand Old Party
Renew America ^ | 6/4/2006 | Bonnie Alba

Posted on 06/10/2006 6:20:18 AM PDT by FerdieMurphy

Conservative Republicans held such hopes when Pres. Bush was heralded into office and the Republicans gained control of the Congress. That was then, this is now.

According to recent polls, conservative republicans are perplexed by the non-conservative actions of this president and the Republican-controlled Congress.

As I probed this latest confusion I found that I, and millions of other citizens, are f-o-s-s-i-l-s. According to Wikipedia Encyclopedia online, we are "Paleo" or "Old" conservatives. We are living fossils, 'about-to-become-extinct' hangers-on of the Grand Old Party which no longer appears to represent traditional conservatism.

The Republican Party in its essentials has been taken over by a mutation. Wikipedia describes this line of thought as "Neo" or "New Wave" conservatism. It's tenets are not really new, just enjoined by present-day politicians and citizens as the direction our nation should pursue. But it is contrary to many basic "Paleocon" principles.

"Paleocons" believe in the principles of limited government, limited spending and borrowing, limited intervention into citizens' lives, and states' rights. They also believe in restraint of foreign entanglement, a strong national defense and traditional family values

"Neocons" believe in an agressive foreign policy, empiric intervention in other nations to spread democracy, and global economic-trade policies. Weak on domestic policies, they lack emphasis on national issues. Their vision includes motivating our nation towards what I believe Pres. Bush's father referred to as the "New World Order." Include growth of government and overspending too.

Sound familiar? Now we know why the media refers to Pres. Bush and his administration as "Neocons." Many congressional Republicans belong in this catagory too.

The Republican-controlled Congress has acted and evolved in accordance with the mutant Neocon concept of overspending and overgrowing government, ignoring the burgeoning National and Public Debt approaching $40-60 trillion, most of it owned by foreign investors.

Recent crises and scandals such as social security, medicare, tax reform, earmarks, budget deficits, illegal aliens and gasoline prices gain the media spotlight for a few days or weeks. Then they seem to fade away, crammed together on the "we'll deal with you later"shelf. Always later.

My wake-up call came the morning I woke up to Howard Dean saying, "The first thing we want is tough border control, we have to do a much better job on our borders than George Bush has done." Though I knew this was blatant political rhetoric, it was shocking because I completely agreed with him.

Pres. Bush and the Congress have ignored domestic security of our homeland, borders and ports — until it was raised by the people! But if I agree with a liberal democrat, that does not a democrat make.

It is clear that the Grand Old Party has evolved and mutated which leaves a large conservative group, the Paleocons, scratching their heads and wondering what happened? I, for one, feel isolated from the GOP. The Party has entombed the Paleocons on the sidelines, bleached fossils, puzzled eyes peering at the GOP's total embrace of Neo-conservatism.

There is excited talk about Congress gearing up and acting on a few issues before the upcoming elections so they won't lose voters. I've got news for them. They have already lost citizens like this old fossil, who have reflected on the last five years of non-conservative actions.

Where's the limits on spending, limits on growth in government, adherence to the U.S. Constitution? Where's the traditional values and seeking the good of the nation as a whole instead of the corruptive influence of special interests? Yes, there are a few "Paleocons" in Congress but they are not listened to nor even heard amongst the clamor of "Neocons" and "Liberals" calling each other names.

I am a living fossil as are million of citizens, which brings me to the point. Where's the party that speaks to my conscience? I am past that retort: "Oh no! you must vote Republican or the Democrats will win!" Oh Please! I say — so what? Has it made any difference?

The Grand Old Party appears to have accepted this "Neocon" mutation, to move towards a world economy policy, open borders and the "New World Order." Why would I, this old fossil of white-bleached bones, vote for any republican candidate? No longer does the Republican Party speak to or for my "conscience."

As for this Paleocon, I am searching for a party that matches my "conscience." This is the one freedom citizens still have in this country — a citizen's privilege and responsibility to vote his or her "conscience." This old fossil takes this duty seriously.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Politics/Elections
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To: A. Pole
Flat income tax without the high personal exemption would have to be very low (as low as the poorer people can afford). As a result you would get state as weak as in Latin America.

And that's a bad thing why again? The federal government was intended to have few and specific powers, not massive overreach into the affairs of the citizens of the respective states. We could easily be rid of at least 10 useless Cabinet departments overnight

user fees for government services. This would be worse than poll tax.

In no way would it. I don't have children and yet I am required to support public schools. I don't go to the park and yet I am taxed to build parks. I don't use Medicare and yet I am taxed on that. Same with Social Security. If you use a service or plan to use the service, then you pay for it. Don't steal from my pockets to do so.

121 posted on 06/10/2006 8:19:58 AM PDT by billbears (Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it. --Santayana)
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To: colonel mosby
Bill Archer chairs the House committee that has been purposely holding up the repeal of the Death Tax for over a decade.

Bill Archer retired from Congress some years ago. Did they keep him as chair of a House committee?

122 posted on 06/10/2006 8:21:28 AM PDT by rustbucket
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To: nathanbedford

There is another tried and true method of getting rats of your ship...smoke them out. Fortunately these brought their own smoke bombs.


123 posted on 06/10/2006 8:21:33 AM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: StrongBlackWoman

"then realized that it would be no less futile than trying to debate a poo-flinging monkey in a zoo."

Comparatively that would be extreely productive!


124 posted on 06/10/2006 8:23:04 AM PDT by dalereed
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To: MNJohnnie

"Utterly stupid and childish behavior by petulant immature fools"

So Johnnie, if these folks are pseudo-conservatives, perhaps you could tell us who are the REAL conservatives in your illustrious opinion?


125 posted on 06/10/2006 8:23:36 AM PDT by antisocial (Texas SCV - Deo Vindice)
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To: billbears; ninenot; sittnick; steve50; Hegemony Cricket; Willie Green; Wolfie; ex-snook; FITZ; ...
I don't have children and yet I am required to support public schools. [...] Don't steal from my pockets to do so.

Raising children is a very expensive hard task and a great sacrifice.

If you do not want or cannot to contribute to the most important objective (the very SURVIVAL of the society) you should pay MORE and not less!

126 posted on 06/10/2006 8:27:36 AM PDT by A. Pole (Evolution has demonstrated that the optimal IQ is the average IQ !)
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To: Columbine
Paleos are rabidly anti-Israel and pro-isolationists on trade as well as any foreign intervention.

Buchanan is a throwback to the America First Party of the late 1930s. I do not consider it a form of conservatism but rather big government by another name. There is however an older form of which unfortunately tends to be lumped into Pat's group without discussing the major differences. Limited government, free trade, non-intervention into the affairs of sovereign nations if they do not represent a threat to our borders, and no foreign aid.

"The great rule of conduct for us in regard to foreign nations is in extending our commercial relations, to have with them as little political connection as possible."

127 posted on 06/10/2006 8:32:43 AM PDT by billbears (Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it. --Santayana)
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To: FerdieMurphy
Your #106 is excellent.

Thanks, Ferdie, I did pour my heart out.

And thank you for posting this column...I went to the site and found all kinds of goodies there!

128 posted on 06/10/2006 8:33:12 AM PDT by meema (I am a Conservative Traditional Republican, NOT an elitist, sexist, cynic or right wing extremist!)
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To: A. Pole
Raising children is a very expensive hard task and a great sacrifice.

Well you better take on two jobs then I suppose. Sacrifice?!? I've heard having children called a lot of things but a sacrifice?

If you do not want or cannot to contribute to the most important objective (the very SURVIVAL of the society) you should pay MORE and not less!

LOL, I can contribute to society without having children. You consider yourself conservative do you?

129 posted on 06/10/2006 8:35:26 AM PDT by billbears (Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it. --Santayana)
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To: Clemenza

"...they also believe in high tariffs to protect failed businesses"


Like Reagan did with Harley Davidson?


130 posted on 06/10/2006 8:35:34 AM PDT by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: Ditter

How about supporting "Conservatives" or that is what you are going to get.


131 posted on 06/10/2006 8:35:54 AM PDT by maxter
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To: taxed2death

Or, Bush with the steel mills.


132 posted on 06/10/2006 8:36:29 AM PDT by Clemenza (The CFR ate my bilderburgers! Time to call for a trilateral commission to investigate!)
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To: Paul Ross
Thank you, Paul!

As you could see, I have my 60+ heels dug in, and WILL FIGHT. I have 5 grandchildren to whom I need to bequeeth OUR country.

133 posted on 06/10/2006 8:40:12 AM PDT by meema (I am a Conservative Traditional Republican, NOT an elitist, sexist, cynic or right wing extremist!)
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To: Ditter
"You on the other hand are willing to throw everything he has done down the drain because you didn't get 100% of what you wanted. You are pathetic."

_________________________________________________________
The problem with your logic is that GWB is playing "all-in" regarding his proposal to make illegals "legal" with the stroke of a pen.

Are you ok with having 12,000,000 to 16,000,000 "instant Democrats" who can then EACH petition for 16 family members to come in?

That will be the absolute death of the Republican party.

Try to look PAST the next election. If GWB gets his "it's not Amnesty" passed....it will not matter a one little bit who gets in the White house next time around.
134 posted on 06/10/2006 8:42:05 AM PDT by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: FerdieMurphy
The paleocons are outnumbered. I come from the neoconservative tradition myself. Any one who hasn't read Irving Kristol has no idea how modern conservatives think.

(Denny Crane: "Every one should carry a gun strapped to their waist. We need more - not less guns.")

135 posted on 06/10/2006 8:45:20 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: FreeReign

Sure...but forty years ago the Dems were more conservative than the Pubs are right now.


136 posted on 06/10/2006 8:45:39 AM PDT by tertiary01
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To: billbears
LOL, I can contribute to society without having children.

Maybe you can, but why would you do it? And how? By accumulating wealth which will be passed to the state at time of your death? But who would care for you in the old age if other people did not raise their children?

137 posted on 06/10/2006 8:53:22 AM PDT by A. Pole (For today's Democrats abortion and "gay marriage" are more important that the whole New Deal legacy.)
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To: Clemenza

"Or, Bush with the steel mills."

Yes, and look how they've modernized.

Nice hugh?


138 posted on 06/10/2006 8:53:43 AM PDT by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: pissant

Ironically, though, Newt was a GA delegate for Nelson Rockefeller at the 1968 convention in Miami Beach. I don't think we can put much confidence in him, and neither do his two previous wives.


139 posted on 06/10/2006 8:55:48 AM PDT by Theodore R. (Cowardice is forever!)
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To: rustbucket

It's William Thomas, and he is vacating Congrees in January 2007 too.


140 posted on 06/10/2006 8:56:47 AM PDT by Theodore R. (Cowardice is forever!)
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