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Stephanie Salter: Gays a threat to institution of marriage? Get real
The Tribune-Star ^ | June 11, 2006 | Stephanie Salter

Posted on 06/11/2006 6:44:32 AM PDT by Military family member

I’m rarely lifted by some occurrence under the Capitol dome, but 48 members of the Senate provided an exception this week: They spared us the protracted and dangerous distraction of a federal battle over gay marriage.

That even five minutes was spent on this issue — let alone all the words poured out about the need for a constitutional amendment to “protect” marriage — illustrates how far our nation is from getting its priorities in order and its act together.

You know, the act we need to perfect so we can seriously deal on the global stage with real political, economic, security and environmental threats to our well-being?

Now, before some of you rev up the e-mail and phone trees — the ones that tell me in 25 formulated words or more that I should go back to San Francisco where all those Sodomites flout their abomination before God and country — I have a few things to say that might save you the trouble.

No. 1: I have no “gay agenda.” I am a lifelong heterosexual, born and raised in Indiana, who developed my advocacy for gay rights here in the heartland. The first gay person I knew I met in high school.

During my four years at Purdue — a stand-up, state-supported university chock-full of white-bread kids like me — I got to know many more gay women and men. I learned at an early age that homosexuals are people who are much more like heterosexuals than they aren’t.

We laughed at the same jokes, danced to the same music, struggled similarly through algebra or English lit, worried equally about our post-graduation employability and made sure we got home for our parents’ birthdays. Sometimes, late at night, as we shared a beer or a walk across campus, we confided the same personal dream: to love and be loved.

So, don’t blame San Francisco. I equated gay rights with human rights long before I left Indiana.

No. 2: As Vice President Dick Cheney can and will tell you, truly knowing and loving a gay man or lesbian makes you look at discrimination against homosexuals in a whole different way.

Denying two adults the legal, social and economic benefits that come with a state-sanctioned union is flat-out, unequivocal discrimination. Deliberately meting out injustice — with a constitutional amendment, no less — won’t protect the institution of marriage. But it will eat away at the democratic, egalitarian values that made this country different from any other on Earth.

The preamble to the Declaration of Independence says Americans have certain inalienable rights — among them life, liberty, the pursuit of happiness — that are endowed by our Creator. Which brings me to my next point.

No. 3: In addition to being straight, I am a practicing Christian. If somebody managed to prove tomorrow that God does not exist, I would go on using Jesus as my guide.

So, how important was the issue of homosexuality to Jesus? How many times did he speak about it, make certain his disciples were clear on the subject, construct a parable for the masses so they could grasp the significance of it in their lives?

Zero. None. Never.

Of all the statements attributed to Jesus, not one includes same-gender sleeping arrangements. If homosexuality is such a threat to humankind’s communion with God, wouldn’t you think his son might at least have mentioned it?

What is most important to God is no mystery. Over and over Christ said to take care of the poor, to visit the sick and imprisoned. He told us to be quiet about our charity, not advertise it, and to ignore class and ethnic barriers and be good Samaritans to all in need.

Lest we be so thick-headedly human and forget, in Matthew, Mark and Luke he drew a line under and around his top priorities: “This is my first commandment: Love God with all your heart and soul and mind. And love your neighbor as yourself.”

In John, he made it sublimely simple: “This is my commandment: Love one another as I have loved you.” Period. No exceptions for gays.

No. 4: In the three decades I lived in San Francisco, I got to know lots more gay men and lesbians. They were my neighbors, my co-workers, my fellow parishioners, my elected leaders, my dear friends.

Some of the gay couples I know have been together for most of their adult lives. Many have children upon whom they dote, over whom they worry and for whom they provide, plan and dream.

Like millions of Americans, these committed gays earn a living, pay their taxes, borrow money to fix up their homes, take medicine for their hypertension, watch “Survivor,” cash in air miles for vacations, volunteer their spare time, walk their dogs and, once in awhile, surprise their longtime partner with a romantic anniversary card after all the years.

What exactly in that behavior is dangerous to marriage? The heterosexual U.S. divorce-marriage ratio is 1-to-2. When is the last time you heard anybody cite “gay Americans” as the reason their marriage busted up?

The only thing that will protect the institution of marriage is more good marriages. If we really wanted to reinforce and defend marriage, we as a society would go after the real enemies of healthy, responsible, respectful relationships. And we would say, “Hooray!” to any couple willing to commit themselves to a life together.

Then maybe we could get on as a people — and a government — with combating bona fide abominations.

You know, abominations such as ignorance and fear? Prejudice and poverty? Waste, greed, hunger, war and — the ultimate abomination, according to Jesus — hatred?

Stephanie Salter can be reached at (812) 231-4229 or stephanie.salter@tribstar.com


TOPICS: Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: Indiana; Unclassified; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: desolation; homosexualagenda; pervertperverts; perverts; pervertspervert; stephaniesalter; warongenesis
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To: Military family member

isn't it nice how the young brainwashed can decide for the majority of the world population


21 posted on 06/11/2006 7:54:38 AM PDT by sure_fine (*not one to over kill the thought process*)
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To: Military family member

anyone that has access to a muslim forum should post this story to it


22 posted on 06/11/2006 7:55:30 AM PDT by sure_fine (*not one to over kill the thought process*)
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To: madprof98

At this point, she is probably a Methodist. I no longer recognize my church anymore.


23 posted on 06/11/2006 8:11:33 AM PDT by originalbuckeye
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To: Military family member
If you look at what marriage originally was, it meant that if you convinced a woman to go into your tent, cave or hut, then you were bound to her and took care of your children etc... The entire concept of marriage only makes sense if you are referring to a man and a woman. Two guys aren't bonded just because they were messing around with each other.

Gay marriage is nonsensical because two men cannot have sex. Human reproduction doesn't match up male to male. Gays can simulate sex and can simulate marriage. But to say they can marry is like saying 2 + 2 = 5. It still equals 4 even if the state says its 5.

It really has nothing to do with Judeo-Christian morality or the church or societal conventions. Marriage was established long before those things existed. It can't be redefined just because someone doesn't like the biological basis of it.
24 posted on 06/11/2006 8:12:04 AM PDT by Dialup Llama
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To: Dialup Llama
Gay marriage is nonsensical because two men cannot have sex. Human reproduction doesn't match up male to male. Gays can simulate sex and can simulate marriage.

So Clinton was right? It really wasn't sex....

25 posted on 06/11/2006 8:26:12 AM PDT by MACVSOG68
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To: Military family member

It's called "Incrementalism."

Creeping totalitarianism telling all that unless homosexuality is accepted and applauded in the public, private and religious square in all its forms and permutations, nothing less will do.


26 posted on 06/11/2006 8:30:36 AM PDT by OpusatFR ( ALEA IACTA EST. We have just crossed the Rubicon.)
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To: Military family member
Steph....

Bottom line: Engaging in same sex is "abnormal" sexual behavior! Why not help them overcome the abnormal attraction rather than succumb to the abnormal behavior of same sex -- just as we do for all other abnormal sexual attractions and their chosen behaviors?

Opposition to the gay agenda is NOT hatred of gays. It is loving them enough to tell them the truth and to help them overcome the "abnormal" sexual attraction they've been burdened with -- Christ calls them to do just that!
27 posted on 06/11/2006 8:37:52 AM PDT by dcnd9
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To: MACVSOG68
So Clinton was right? It really wasn't sex....

It wasn't sex, but its called a perversion which is even more prohibited. There used to be laws against it (yes even for married couples).

Its a standard Clintonian approach to rhetoric which is to say something that is true in a literal, narrow sense while causing others to be mislead as to the full truth.
28 posted on 06/11/2006 8:38:54 AM PDT by Dialup Llama
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To: Military family member

"You know, the act we need to perfect so we can seriously deal on the global stage with real political, economic, security and environmental threats to our well-being?"

The family is a foundation of our society and thus essential to the real political and economic security of our nation... without the family, we are but 20 years from barbarism.

Now, we can discuss intelligently whether or not redefining maarriage, which has been one man and one woman throughout western civilization's rise, will negatively impact this institution, but to call this important debate a 'distraction' is pure bunk. The US Senate, whose usual business is pandering to special interests, has many lesser issues to deal with, but few issues of more importance.


29 posted on 06/11/2006 8:41:13 AM PDT by WOSG (Do your duty, be a patriot, support our Troops - VOTE!)
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To: ROTB

ROTB, good point. Our western laws on divorce, that until recently were fairly strict against divorce and remarriage, were built on that scriptural passage.

Jesus had the same concept of marriage that all of civilization had until the gay agenda folks came along: Marriage is between man and woman.


30 posted on 06/11/2006 8:44:00 AM PDT by WOSG (Do your duty, be a patriot, support our Troops - VOTE!)
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To: Dialup Llama
It wasn't sex, but its called a perversion which is even more prohibited.

Don't tell the 90 to 95 percent of married couples who engage in such non-sex.

There used to be laws against it (yes even for married couples).

Yeah, darn those pesky old privacy and equal protection rights.

31 posted on 06/11/2006 8:46:33 AM PDT by MACVSOG68
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To: MACVSOG68

She certainly has mastered the art of the non sequitor.

Apparently, because she knew some gay friends in College (who didn't?), anyone who opposes overturning the definition of marriage that western civilization used for millenia is a hateful bigot.

yeah, right.


32 posted on 06/11/2006 8:50:43 AM PDT by WOSG (Do your duty, be a patriot, support our Troops - VOTE!)
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To: MACVSOG68
A fetish fantasy world?

Yes... Homosexuals are incapable of producing offspring with other homosexuals.

Marriage is simply part of their fetish, their lurid fantasy world of self-destruction.

Many will seek ceremonious sanctification and esoteric absolution in some type of marriage rite, but that still fails to give them a connection to the eternal in both a religious and temporal, procreant sense - - the union does not produce offspring.

Dissatisfaction with inevitable mortality only feeds the impoverishment of the ego further. Homosexuals really hate human life; their whole desire is rooted in the destruction of it...

33 posted on 06/11/2006 8:51:49 AM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: MACVSOG68
Don't tell the 90 to 95 percent of married couples who engage in such non-sex.

If you really think about what's going on, its undignified for the woman to do that. The man's role is to care for the woman and make her feel secure. Not to indulge his ego. Its something that younger chicks do but more mature women tend to move away from it.
34 posted on 06/11/2006 8:52:10 AM PDT by Dialup Llama
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To: Military family member
When is the last time you heard anybody cite “gay Americans” as the reason their marriage busted up?

Arriannia, what ever her name is,Huffinton and what ever his name was.

35 posted on 06/11/2006 8:53:50 AM PDT by org.whodat (Never let the facts get in the way of a good assumption.)
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To: Military family member

Next time you hear a liberal ranting against evangelical Christians, write down what they say, then read it back and substitute the word "Jew" for Christian. I did that with a friend and she was shocked to hear how much she sounded like a bigot. It was the first time she knew how her words would come across to a conservative.


36 posted on 06/11/2006 8:54:14 AM PDT by GOPJ (Hang zarqs by his feet in the center of Baghdad and put a NYTimes in his hand-pissant)
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To: Military family member
[ Stephanie Salter: Gays a threat to institution of marriage? Get real ]

Marriage is about children not sex.. being gay is about sex not children, unless children are sexual points of interest..

37 posted on 06/11/2006 8:56:29 AM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole..)
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To: MACVSOG68
So Clinton was right? It really wasn't sex....

It was equivocation... Clinton was a master equivocator... masturbating into the bathroom sink of the Oval Office (according to Monica Lewinsky).

38 posted on 06/11/2006 8:57:36 AM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: doug from upland
No. 1: I have no “beastiality agenda.” I am a lifelong intraspeciessexual, born and raised in Indiana, who developed my advocacy for beastial rights here in the heartland. The first bestial person I knew I met in high school through the 4H Club.

No wonder the socialist government in Spain is wanting to grant human rights for apes...

39 posted on 06/11/2006 8:59:58 AM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: Military family member
The author is correct in one area; we all need to work through this issue logically and thoughtfully. And that means, before a controlling legal authority can legalize homosexual marriage, it must legalize sodomy.

The alternative is to provide a profiling tool to the morality police.

All politicians in favor of that, raise your hand.

40 posted on 06/11/2006 9:04:10 AM PDT by Bernard (God helps those who helps themselves - The US Government takes in the rest.)
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