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Surprising Jump in Tax Revenues Curbs U.S. Deficit [Democrats sadden.......]
New York Times ^

Posted on 07/08/2006 10:20:32 AM PDT by Sub-Driver

Surprising Jump in Tax Revenues Curbs U.S. Deficit By EDMUND L. ANDREWS

WASHINGTON, July 8 — An unexpectedly steep rise in tax revenues from corporations and the wealthy is driving down the budget deficit this year, even though spending has climbed sharply because of the war in Iraq and the cost of hurricane relief.

On Tuesday, White House officials are expected to announce that the tax receipts will be about $250 billion above last year's levels and that the deficit will be about $100 billion less than what they projected six months ago. The rising tide in tax payments has been building for months, but the increased scale is surprising even seasoned budget analysts and making it easier for both the administration and Congress to finesse the big run-up in spending over the past year.

Tax revenues are climbing twice as fast as the administration predicted in February, so fast that the budget deficit could actually decline this year.

The main reason is a big spike in corporate tax receipts, which have nearly tripled since 2003, as well as what appears to be a big rise in individual taxes on stock market profits and executive bonuses.

On Friday, the Congressional Budget Office reported that corporate tax receipts for the nine months ending in June hit $250 billion — nearly 26 percent higher than the same time last year — and that overall revenues were $206 billion higher than at this point in 2005.

Congressional analysts say that the surprise windfall could shrink the deficit this year to $300 billion, from $318 billion in 2005 and an all-time high of $412 billion in 2004.

Republicans are already arguing that the revenue jump proves their argument that tax cuts, especially the 2003 tax cut on stock dividends,

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: economics101; economy; govwatch; laffercurve; noduh; onlynytissurprised; taxes
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To: nhoward14

Actually, Clinton spent close to what President Bush has spent on Defense per GDP. They both are close to 3.5 overall I think.

Carter was spending close to double that. I'm surprised it's been so low while we are fighting WWIII. We all know that War spurs other advances in technology, Health, and other areas.


41 posted on 07/08/2006 11:20:12 AM PDT by Marius3188 (Happy Resurrection Weekend)
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To: Sub-Driver

It wasn't unexpected and it wasn't a surprise.


42 posted on 07/08/2006 11:22:22 AM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: Marius3188; nhoward14

Nhoward

My apologies, I was incorrect on Carter. He was closer to 4.5. Not the amount I said before.


43 posted on 07/08/2006 11:26:57 AM PDT by Marius3188 (Happy Resurrection Weekend)
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

As far as I know, cutting taxes results in increased government revenue after a few years at the outside. Every time.

If liberals really want to raise money to spend, they should cut taxes.

But they'd apparently prefer to slam the brakes on the economy, take money away from families, and hurt everyone, all under the guise of doing something compassionate.

It's madness.


44 posted on 07/08/2006 11:38:53 AM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: wyattearp
"I wont be impressed until I see the numbers on the right go down to at least what they were before Bush took office."

What did Klinton do about Bin Laden, Al Quaeda and the Taliban again, despite repeated attacks against America during the Klinton administration?
Apart from firing cruse missiles into empty huts in Afghanistan that is.
Throughout history, counrries have run deficits when fighting big foreign wars.
Much rather have deficits then get planes driven into my office one morning
45 posted on 07/08/2006 11:39:23 AM PDT by Jameison
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To: Sub-Driver

Of course Bubba's platform was "It's all about the economy, stupid" and he raised our taxes. Poor Hillary. Things just aren't working out.


46 posted on 07/08/2006 11:43:56 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: Marius3188
"Actually, Clinton spent close to what President Bush has spent on Defense per GDP."

I know Klinton initiated deep cuts in defence spending, and was averse to taking any real action against Al Quaeda, The Taliban or Afghanistan.
There is simply no way Klinton spent "close to what President Bush has spent" on Defense.
47 posted on 07/08/2006 11:45:53 AM PDT by Jameison
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To: Sub-Driver

But the budget would be balanced this year if the Congress had not spent so much money.


48 posted on 07/08/2006 11:51:12 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Sub-Driver
Hate to rain on everybody's parade, but I've abandoned looking at the official "deficit" years ago... The bottom line is the increase in the national debt>>

http://www.publicdebt.treas.gov/opd/opdpdodt.htm

... notice how the debt has increased over $450B since the end of Sept. 05.. just over 9 months...

The war spending is old-fashioned Keynesnian government spending, much of it is "off budget". Not the model of a true free enterprise state I'd like to see.

49 posted on 07/08/2006 11:53:52 AM PDT by detroitdarien
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To: Sub-Driver
Look for extensive reporting on this tomorrow on "This Week With George Steponallofus", "deFACE the Nation", and "Meet the DEpressed". NOT!
50 posted on 07/08/2006 11:55:33 AM PDT by Recovering_Democrat (I am SO glad to no longer be associated with the party of "dependence on government"!)
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To: Sub-Driver

"An unexpectedly steep rise in tax revenues from corporations and the wealthy" unexpected only by people moronic enough to get their information from the NY Times.
NY Times readers also deal with the paradox of lower crime rates and higher incarceration rates.


51 posted on 07/08/2006 12:04:56 PM PDT by don'tbedenied
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To: Jameison
What did Klinton do about Bin Laden, Al Quaeda and the Taliban again, despite repeated attacks against America during the Klinton administration?

If I remember correctly, he spent most of the time playing "hide the cigar" with a fat intern.

Apart from firing cruse missiles into empty huts in Afghanistan that is.

And the Sudanese aspirin factory, and the Chinese embassy...

Throughout history, counrries have run deficits when fighting big foreign wars. Much rather have deficits then get planes driven into my office one morning.

I'd rather that the government cut spending to fund the war, rather than raise unnecessary domestic spending to unprecedented levels during a war. It's not that it can't be done, it's just that they don't have the stones to do it. There are more than enough spending cuts that could be done to fund the war. We had enough of a surplus before the war to fund it, had they not increased spending like they did. We don't need a deficit to fund the WOT.

There was a $236B surplus before the war: Last year there was a $318B deficit. The war doesn't cost $554B annually. There is absolutely NO justification for a Republican President, and the Republicans holding majorities in both houses of Congress, to be spending at levels higher than the dems who preceeded them.

52 posted on 07/08/2006 12:05:33 PM PDT by wyattearp (Study! Study! Study! Or BONK, BONK, on the head!)
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To: CT
Surprising. Not to Ronald Reagan and millions of conservative Americans.

Exactly what I was thinking. VIVA LA Reagan Revolution!! I think that means Republican girls rock!!


53 posted on 07/08/2006 12:07:01 PM PDT by do the dhue (I hope y'all will help bail me out of jail after I dot Chris Mathew's eyes.)
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To: Zman516
If Albore had been successful in stealing the 2000 election, we'd be in an economic sinkhole right now.

I think that it would be more likely that we would be under Sharia law, actually.

54 posted on 07/08/2006 12:08:01 PM PDT by wyattearp (Study! Study! Study! Or BONK, BONK, on the head!)
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To: wyattearp


Ahhh...no, not quite Wyatt.

I think your missing the point, what you cite are budgeted costs as causes. The GAO takes Medicare and all those other goodies you mention into consideration. There may be slippage, there always is, but appropriations are made for those expenditures.

But when you are talking about increases in borrowing in excess of planned receipts, and unappropriated expenses, which triggers increases in Nat Debt...then one must look to "unbudgeted, unappropriated, expenditures" and how "governmental" accounting funds them, and thus Congress must borrow.

Nat. Gov. spending over the last three years has indeed increased in regard expense that lacked appropriation, which incidentally was for the WOT in 03 (not appropriated in '02 budget), and only partially appropriated in 03' for 04, due to how the budgetary process works for the Nat. Gov (the lag effect)...Expenses for the WOT have averaged about 350-400 billion a (YEAR)...what's 3X that Wyatt? (A drop in the bucket huh?) Well..it's money well spent.

Well, I agree, a trillion dollars over three years in regards to the size of our Economy (and Nat. Gov. Budget) is a drop in the Bucket.

As a side note, and in regard to what you cite as a cause, Congress has often robbed the Social Securtiy fund for appropriations...since as of now, it is fully funded....but projections have this going south in a couple of decades, thus congress will (unless benefits are cut or something else is changed)...will have to borrow for this with public debt at some point in the future.

Thanks, chief.


55 posted on 07/08/2006 12:10:00 PM PDT by in hoc signo vinces ("Houston, TX...a waiting quagmire for jihadis. American gals are worth fighting for!")
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To: wyattearp


Check the OMB stats...pretty interesting.


56 posted on 07/08/2006 12:19:03 PM PDT by in hoc signo vinces ("Houston, TX...a waiting quagmire for jihadis. American gals are worth fighting for!")
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To: expat_panama; Dog Gone
"If liberals really want to raise money to spend, they should cut taxes." (Dog Gone)

"Personally, I wouldn't mind paying an extra $thousand in taxes as long as it meant an extra after-tax $3thousand in my income." (expat-panama)

Which is it?

According to the guy that invented the Laffer Curve, there's a limit to how much you can cut the tax rate, and still have more total tax revenue.

Laffer didn't say that taxes shouldn't go lower than that point -- even though there would be less total tax revenue.

The argument in favor of even lower taxes is easy -- when governments have too much money, they waste some of it. When they have to tighten up, that forces them to be more efficient. Also, the economy would likely continue to grow even more -- so everyone would have even more money to spend.

Dog Gone's argument against even lower taxes seems to be based on a sort of Keynesian theory -- i.e. that more government spending stimulates the economy. Sometimes, (e.g. during a depression) that's true. Otherwise, it's not.

If the left were honest, they'd be admitting that they want higher taxes to decrease the gap between rich and poor -- even if that makes everyone worse off. This could be defended on the basis of social stability -- it's much better to have a lot of people in the "middle class" than it is to have too many very rich and very poor. Actually achieving this ideal, without destroying the economy, is the tricky part.
57 posted on 07/08/2006 12:21:51 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: expat_panama; Dog Gone
"Dog Gone's argument against even lower taxes ..."

My apologies for the misattribution. I should have said: "expat_panama's argument against even lower taxes...."
58 posted on 07/08/2006 12:26:42 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: in hoc signo vinces
Expenses for the WOT have averaged about 350-400 billion a (YEAR)...

Yep. And they started out with a $236B surplus. Is it your position that $114B-$164B absolutely could not be cut from the budget to fund the WOT? With Republicans in control of the Congress and White House? No way?

The budget went from +$236B to -$318B, for a difference of $554B in total increased spending. Basically, when Bush, et al, took office, they increased spending to swallow up the surplus. That was irresponsible.

They had an opportunity to reduce the national debt, and instead they increased spending on socialist programs, and increased gov't bureaucracy. When the WOT began, they did not decrease spending to make up the difference and get back to at least a balanced budget. This is not a fiscally conservative administration.

59 posted on 07/08/2006 12:27:45 PM PDT by wyattearp (Study! Study! Study! Or BONK, BONK, on the head!)
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To: C210N
Can't the 'Rats spend some more money to fix this problem?!

Not to worry, our own Republican leadership has no trouble spending more money.
60 posted on 07/08/2006 12:34:09 PM PDT by javachip
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