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Target threatens to leave city (Chicago) if 'big-box' wage rule passes
Chicago Sun-Times ^ | July 14, 2006 | FRAN SPIELMAN City Hall Reporter

Posted on 07/14/2006 4:02:49 AM PDT by Chi-townChief

Target is putting plans to build three South Side stores "on hold" -- and making veiled threats to close existing Chicago stores -- if the City Council mandates wage and benefit standards for "big-box" retailers, African-American aldermen warned Thursday.

The saber-rattling is intensifying as the clock winds down toward a July 26 showdown vote on plans to make Chicago the nation's first major city to establish a "living wage" for stores with at least 90,000 square feet of space operated by retailers with $1 billion in sales.

Minneapolis-based Target becomes the second retailing giant to threaten to pull out of the lucrative Chicago market in a last-ditch effort to stop an ordinance championed by organized labor that breezed through the City Council's Finance Committee 15-6 and has attracted support from 33 aldermen.

WAGE WAR

The current federal minimum wage is $5.15 an hour. Illinois' minimum wage is $6.50

Most Chicago area Wal-Mart employees average $10.99 an hour, with just a few making the starting wage of $7.25 an hour, Wal-Mart spokesman John Bisio recently said.

As of 2004, Target in many cities had a starting salary of about $7 an hour, published reports said. A few Target workers outside Illinois said they recently started with salaries as low as $6.25 an hour, according to postings on the Target Union! (www.targetunion.org) Web site for store employees.

Wal-Mart has threatened to cancel plans to build as many as 20 Chicago stores over the next five years if retailers are required to pay employees at least $10 an hour and $3 in benefits by July 1, 2010.

'It would be devastation for us'

Mayor Daley is taking the threat seriously. He has challenged aldermen who oppose Wal-Mart's 20-store expansion to describe how they would replace the 8,000 lost jobs.

Target failed to return calls on the admonition communicated to aldermen of the 5th, 9th and 34th wards in recent days. Target real estate executive Chris Case was scheduled to meet with African-American aldermen Thursday, but the meeting was canceled because of scheduling conflicts.

Ald. Carrie Austin (34th) said a Target pullout would be devastating to the 32-acre shopping mall at 119th and Marshfield that developers had hoped to build, with help from a $23 million city subsidy. Home Depot would likely follow Target out the door. As many as 1,000 jobs would be lost, Austin said.

"It would be devastation for us. Our largest employer in the 34th Ward is the Police Department. The second-largest for us would be Jewel. We have no other resources," Austin said.

Referring to the anti-Wal-Mart movement that gave birth to the big-box ordinance, Austin said, "If you want to bully up on Wal-Mart, you've got to bring in the other ones, and damned if you do on them. If they suffer from it, too bad. If you want to control Wal-Mart, you should go about that a different way."

Accused of 'bullying tactics'

Ald. Leslie Hairston (5th) said she has a letter of intent from Target to build a new store at Marquette and Stony Island in her ward. But the developer has told her the store is "on hold" and that Target may close existing Chicago stores if the big-box ordinance goes through.

Hairston called it little more than a scare tactic. And even if the threat turns out to be real, she's standing firm in support of organized labor.

"Wal-Mart and Target could pay their people a living wage. Then we wouldn't have this problem, and people could actually live on the money they made," Hairston said.

Ald. Joe Moore (49th), chief sponsor of the big-box ordinance, accused Target and Wal-Mart of using "bullying tactics" to stop a train that has already left the station.

"It's an idle threat. ... They're clearly trying to ... intimidate members of the City Council. I am very hopeful that members will hold firm. ... The votes are still there," Moore said. He predicted 33 votes for the ordinance, "maybe more," even though Daley has been buttonholing aldermen to try to stop it.

Ald. Howard Brookins (21st) is still searching for a big-box retailer to replace the Wal-Mart his colleagues nixed at 83rd and Stewart.

Brookins said Wal-Mart executives have told him they may take the lead of the riverboat casinos that ring Chicago and run free shuttle buses to their suburban stores if the big-box ordinance passes.

"I don't know if it was in jest, but they did say it. ... That is an option that they could employ. They could set up locations to have pickup and dropoff. I don't think that is that farfetched," Brookins said.

fspielman@suntimes.com


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To: timm22
"You are right that there are two alternatives to provide for low wage earners.

If you are agreeing that there are just two alternatives then you are about as wrong as a person can get.

Most of my family worked two jobs most of their early years till they worked their way into higher paying jobs or opened businesses.

They never relied on the government to mandate them prosperity they used the American system to achieve it for themselves.

161 posted on 07/14/2006 10:58:17 AM PDT by Mad Dawgg ("`Eddies,' said Ford, `in the space-time continuum.' `Ah,' nodded Arthur, `is he? Is he?'")
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To: 100%FEDUP

I'm a small business owner.


162 posted on 07/14/2006 11:20:28 AM PDT by Mr. Brightside
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To: 100%FEDUP

My point is that the days of getting paid $60,000 to screw a bolt on a car is over.

The only place where you can get paid that kind of money for doing a Burger King level job is at the Post Office.


163 posted on 07/14/2006 11:25:27 AM PDT by Mr. Brightside
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To: 100%FEDUP; All

Whatever comrade....


164 posted on 07/14/2006 11:25:49 AM PDT by KevinDavis (http://www.cafepress.com/spacefuture)
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To: 100%FEDUP
We live in a service based society, skilled labor is not required, neither are FT staffs. Corporations save more money paying 150 PTers than 50 FTers.


Skilled labor is always required, and if a person has a skill he will always be required. The jobs here are entry level. After an employee is proficient they will be paid more, probably what they are worth. If they do not feel they are paid what they worth they should move on, but do not force an employer to pay someone more than they are worth.
We are in a workers market, and anyone with any skill and ambition can find a job. Maybe it is not at the pay rate they want but there is a job for them. If they think they are worth more, then they should find another job, or better yet, start their own business. That is where they will find out if they are really as skilled and important as they think they are.
165 posted on 07/14/2006 11:26:18 AM PDT by John D
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To: bfree

Have a quick question out of curiosity for Chicagoans on this thread, any idea as to what the Casino's starting pay is for an equal type employee as to skills, education?


166 posted on 07/14/2006 11:43:04 AM PDT by stopem (God Bless the U.S.A the Troops who protect her, and their Commander In Chief !)
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To: stopem

I have no idea what the casinos pay, sorry I can't help.


167 posted on 07/14/2006 12:20:28 PM PDT by bfree (Liberalism-the yellow meat)
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To: Mad Dawgg
If you are agreeing that there are just two alternatives then you are about as wrong as a person can get.

I did not mean to imply there are ONLY two alternatives, though I can see where my language would give someone that impression.

Other posters before me had offered other alternatives, such as living with roomates, so I didn't go into them. My point was just to show how unfair and counterproductive it is to try to save money by forcing employers to pay higher wages.

168 posted on 07/14/2006 12:41:33 PM PDT by timm22 (Think critically)
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To: Chi-townChief

Well, just start a subsidiary "Target of Illinois". I'm sure it would have under a billion in sales.


169 posted on 07/14/2006 1:52:48 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: John D

John D - you are living in the past.

Skilled Worker requirements are a joke. Corps want a warm body cheap. Minimal skills? OK, you're hired and you'll learn - maybe.


170 posted on 07/14/2006 3:13:14 PM PDT by roofgoat
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To: Gabz
The TV news is playing up this story tonight. Ald. Moore is whining about the companies trying to blackmail the city, what a whiner. One station had on a labor lawyer who said it would be against Constitutional protection, he also said he thinks the Maryland law will be overturned.
171 posted on 07/14/2006 3:40:38 PM PDT by bfree (Liberalism-the yellow meat)
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To: stopem

I think the taxes that you are figuring in are not accurate. This person may be someone who pays no tax, or even gets an earned income credit.


172 posted on 07/14/2006 3:57:58 PM PDT by technochick99 ( Firearm of choice: Sig Sauer....)
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To: F. dAnconia
The store profitablilty is probably a metric by which managers get their salaries, bonuses and reviews. I don't think 'raising prices elsewhere' is an option. I'm not an MBA or CPA, but I do work a little with corporate finance (on the tech side).

I think they could raise money and still sell cheaper then the competition, assuming there is any is some of these wards.

173 posted on 07/14/2006 4:00:34 PM PDT by technochick99 ( Firearm of choice: Sig Sauer....)
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To: Egon; AmericaUnited
They are owned by a Minnesota family -- one is the democratic senator who left DC a while back fearing for his life.
174 posted on 07/14/2006 4:03:30 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Brilliant

Ah...hey Brilliant..you better get a new name. : ()


175 posted on 07/14/2006 4:03:51 PM PDT by Osage Orange (Molon Labe)
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To: toddlintown

"Will and Kendall counties are waiting..."

Yep. Put 'em on the county line.


176 posted on 07/14/2006 4:07:34 PM PDT by RobRoy (The Internet is doing to Evolution what it did to Dan Rather. Information is power.)
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To: cbkaty

Yep, there are all sorts of wierd building designs created to adapt to goofy laws.

Then there is the 700 cc japanese motorcycles that used to be 750 cc, shrunk to avoid big engine tariffs.


177 posted on 07/14/2006 4:09:25 PM PDT by RobRoy (The Internet is doing to Evolution what it did to Dan Rather. Information is power.)
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To: commonguymd

POST #34 WELL SAID!


178 posted on 07/14/2006 4:20:21 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (What you know about that?)
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To: the invisib1e hand

"Referring to the anti-Wal-Mart movement that gave birth to the big-box ordinance, Austin said, "If you want to bully up on Wal-Mart, you've got to bring in the other ones, and damned if you do on them. If they suffer from it, too bad. If you want to control Wal-Mart, you should go about that a different way."

Ain't it telling as to how many of these Dem pols (and in Chicago, every alderman is a RAT save one) think it is their JOB to CONTROL buisness and people and act as the gatekeepers for all progress? This city and the whole county of Cook is just one big Soviet.


179 posted on 07/14/2006 5:47:40 PM PDT by DMZFrank
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To: bfree

"blackmail the city"?????// ROFL.....what the heck do they think they are doing to these companies?

Interesting that I agree with the labor lawyer that the Maryland law will be overturned. I have no doubt about it.


180 posted on 07/14/2006 6:27:29 PM PDT by Gabz (Taxaholism, the disease you elect to have (TY xcamel))
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