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Ancient prayerbook found in Irish bog
couriermail.news ^ | July 26, 2006

Posted on 07/25/2006 12:21:17 PM PDT by lunarbicep

IRELAND'S national museum today hailed what it said was one of the most significant discoveries in decades - and perhaps centuries - after an ancient prayer book was found by chance in an Irish bog.

The National Museum of Ireland said fragments of what appeared to be an ancient Psalter or Book of Psalms, written around AD 800, were uncovered by a bulldozer in a bog in the south Midlands.

"In discovery terms this Irish equivalent to the Dead Sea Scrolls is being hailed by the Museum's experts as the greatest find ever from a European bog," the museum said in a statement.

The Dead Sea Scrolls, found in the mid 20th century, are considered to be of enormous religious and historical significance since they include some of the earliest known surviving Biblical documents.

The Irish discovery, recovered from bogland last Friday, comprises extensive fragments of what is thought to be an Irish Early Christian Psalter, written on vellum, a fine animal skin parchment.

"In my wildest hopes, I could only have dreamed of a discovery as fragile and rare as this," Museum Director Pat Wallace said, adding it was not so much the fragments themselves, but what they represented, that was of such "staggering" importance.

"It testifies to the incredible richness of the Early Christian civilisation of this island and to the greatness of ancient Ireland," he said.

The museum said it did not know how the manuscript ended up in the bog.

"It may have been lost in transit or dumped after a raid, possibly more than a thousand to twelve hundred years ago."

Part of Psalm 83, a lament to God over other nations' attempts to wipe out Israel, is legible but the museum said the extent to which other Psalms or additional texts are preserved would only be determined by lengthy work by a team of experts.

Bernard Meehan, Head of Manuscripts at Trinity College Dublin, who was invited to advise on the context and background of the manuscript, said he believed it was the first discovery of an Irish Early Medieval manuscript in two centuries.

Initial impressions placed the composition date of the manuscript at about AD 800, a time of Viking raids in Ireland.


TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: bog; bookofpsalms; ggg; godsgravesglyphs; ireland; israel; psalm83; psalter
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To: La Enchiladita

Thank you.


81 posted on 07/25/2006 2:11:39 PM PDT by fanfan
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To: Hischild

I've never figured that out, either.

Thanks.


82 posted on 07/25/2006 2:26:14 PM PDT by Quix (BIBLE says it's coming; prophecies indicate our era; Shrillery is eager; Global tyrannical gov looms)
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To: Quix

Good point. We can't even comprehend the awesomeness of God. I just love the book He wrote. :)


83 posted on 07/25/2006 2:37:42 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: Theoden

"After the fall of the Roman Empire, the Catholic Church survived intact in Ireland"

That's the revised history. Ireland and Scotland and to a great extent England followed Christianity for centuries after the fall of the Roman Empire, and the Catholicisation (control by the Pope and adoption of Catholic dates and practices) of the islands was resisted for well over a thousand years.

Patrick preached to the Irish celts in 405 and the conversion of Ireland began.
In 431 The Pope sent Palladius to convert the Irish to Catholicism and the Christians drove him out.

Patrick's statue shows him in priest's robes and a fish-mouth hat. That's Catholic revisionism, too.


84 posted on 07/25/2006 2:37:43 PM PDT by RoadTest (Then conquer we must, when our cause it is just, and this be our motto: in God is our trust.)
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To: lunarbicep
"In discovery terms this Irish equivalent to the Dead Sea Scrolls is being hailed by the Museum's experts as the greatest find ever from a European bog," the museum said in a statement.

It certainly trumps a clay pipe!! :P

85 posted on 07/25/2006 2:39:02 PM PDT by Irish_Thatcherite (A vote for Bertie Ahern is a vote for Gerry Adams!|The IRA are actually terrorists, any questions?)
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To: La Enchiladita
Actually, some Jews believe the Irish are the "lost tribe."

Must be the red hair!

86 posted on 07/25/2006 2:39:32 PM PDT by pbear8 (Praying for those trapped in Lebanon)
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To: pbear8

Actually, there's a bit about marry in some "islands," as well as Irish legends on the topic.


87 posted on 07/25/2006 2:44:29 PM PDT by MeanWestTexan (God Protect Israel.)
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To: Paisan

Why wasn't this discovered in 1948 or 1967 or 1973?
That would have been good timing too.


88 posted on 07/25/2006 2:49:38 PM PDT by Locomotive Breath (In the shuffling madness)
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To: lexington minuteman 1775
exactly... unfortunately most don't see it that way.

just wait till the believers are taken/anti-christ comes and how many people will bow to him b/c he will perform miracles, etc.

the planet will be in free-fall when that time comes.

very serious business to unbelievers.

89 posted on 07/25/2006 2:51:54 PM PDT by Battle Hymn of the Republic
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To: lunarbicep

Could it have belonged to one of the "bog bodies", someone executed and staked down in the bog?


90 posted on 07/25/2006 3:02:06 PM PDT by PioneerDrive (cursing the darkness)
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To: PioneerDrive

Those are generally older.


91 posted on 07/25/2006 3:10:37 PM PDT by MeanWestTexan (God Protect Israel.)
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To: presently no screen name

His Word is Life.

Christ Jesus His Living Word is my all in all as fully as I know how to make Him . . . as I depend on Him to complete that process.


92 posted on 07/25/2006 3:17:12 PM PDT by Quix (BIBLE says it's coming; prophecies indicate our era; Shrillery is eager; Global tyrannical gov looms)
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93 posted on 07/25/2006 3:41:19 PM PDT by madison10
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To: ohioWfan

Thought you might this of interest.

Cheers - Dinah


94 posted on 07/25/2006 3:58:22 PM PDT by Dinah Lord (fighting the Islamic Jihad - one keystroke at a time...)
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To: La Enchiladita

"Actually, some Jews believe the Irish are the "lost tribe."


I did not know that, but the "lost tribe" were 10 of the tribes also called the House of Israel.


95 posted on 07/25/2006 4:01:13 PM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: Quix; Just mythoughts; La Enchiladita
I've read considerable evidence of such. Jeremiah's . . . daughter? some such.

You mean Tia Tephi. British Israelism (theory = the ten lost tribes migrated north and west to become British/Irish/Scottish/North Americans) thinks so. However interesting as some aspects may be - such as the many "Dans" of the region, like Danube River etc - they lose me in the scriptural "evidence," such as their claim that Jeremiah was father to a princess of Israel, especially considering that God told him specifically that he was not to take a wife (Jer 16:2).

However, I do firmly believe that the ten lost tribes are out there, that God knows who they are (Amos 9:9), and that they will be regathered into Israel as He promised so very many places in scripture. He said he would "save the tents of Judah first" (Zech 12:7), which is what has been happening for about a hundred years now - the house of Judah returning to the land. The house of Israel, however, has yet to be restored and joined with Judah to become one stick (Ez 37).

96 posted on 07/25/2006 4:23:54 PM PDT by agrace
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To: agrace

I've found such stories varying degrees of interesting . . . but have not researched it enough to know what to believe for sure.

Thanks.


97 posted on 07/25/2006 4:39:44 PM PDT by Quix (BIBLE says it's coming; prophecies indicate our era; Shrillery is eager; Global tyrannical gov looms)
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To: lunarbicep

Very interesting! Even aside from the somewhat significant content, I wonder about the details. Spain was under Muslim attack at that time, and I believe there was some flight from Northern Spain to Ireland. What is the script like, for example?


98 posted on 07/25/2006 4:47:09 PM PDT by livius
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To: agrace
Jeremiah ..... daughters were not his daughters but the King of Judah's daughters that Jeremiah was placed in charge of. King Zedekiah had his eyes put out and his sons were killed because he refused to go into Babylon.

Jeremiah 41:10 Identifies that King Zedekiah's daughters were in the 'residue' that did not go into Babylon. Jeremiah 43:10 mentions the Kings' daughters again.

These daughters would be of Judah and not daughters of the House of Israel who had already been sent into captivity to the Assyrian king.

Jeremiah 16:2 "Thou shalt not take thee a wife, neither shall thou have sons or daughters in this place.........."
99 posted on 07/25/2006 4:47:31 PM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: Theoden

Theoden, your tagline translates as: "I become before determination in order to kill the cattle brake." What am I missing here?


100 posted on 07/25/2006 5:02:22 PM PDT by Seamus Mc Gillicuddy
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