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The Mayor Who Would Be President [Giuliani]
National Review ^ | 7/22/2006 | KATE O’BEIRNE

Posted on 07/25/2006 4:33:06 PM PDT by NYS_Eric

The Mayor Who Would Be President
Or would he? A look at Rudy’s career, character, and prospects

KATE O’BEIRNE

Rudy Giuliani became “America’s Mayor” when he confidently took charge after the terrorist attacks of September 11. He rose to the challenge with grace and grit, and his pitch-perfect reactions captured something far more universal than his own anger, determination, and heartache. The tough-talking former mayor now enjoys a unique status among national politicians. Newsweek’s Eleanor Clift had plenty of company when she contemplated Hurricane Katrina’s devastation and asked, “Where is Rudy Giuliani when we need him?” In the political-leadership sweepstakes, Giuliani is A-number-one, top of the list, king of the hill. But Sinatra’s catchy claim is turned on its head in the presidential sweepstakes: When it comes to winning over GOP primary voters, if you can make it in New York, you can’t make it anywhere else.

It’s true that presidential-preference polls have typically found Giuliani on top, beginning with a survey taken on Election Day 2004, when the ballot ink was barely dry. According to that poll, conducted by McLaughlin and Associates, Giuliani was the first choice of 34 percent of Republican voters, with John McCain at 15 percent and other candidates trailing in the low single digits. A year later, an NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll of likely GOP primary voters gave Giuliani a 34–31 percent lead over McCain, and a Gallup survey earlier this year found him with a similar advantage (33–28). Polls taken this June confirm that Giuliani and McCain presently dominate the GOP field: Gallup found Giuliani on top with 29 percent to McCain’s 24 percent, while a Cook Political Report/RT Strategies poll reversed the lead, with McCain at 29 and Giuliani at 24. Polls also show that Giuliani would be a formidable opponent for Hillary Clinton, the current Democratic frontrunner. A Fox News poll in May found that voters would choose the former mayor over the current senator by a margin of 49–40 percent, the strongest showing against Hillary of any potential Republican candidate.



Giuliani’s allure isn’t confined to poll ratings. He has proven to be a terrific fundraiser, and his dance card this election season is filled with Republican suitors eager to campaign at his side. His “Solutions America” political action committee raised $2 million at a recent dinner in New York. In a single week in July, he drew big crowds as he stumped for grateful candidates in Ohio, Arkansas, Illinois, Pennsylvania, and Maryland. When Giuliani headlined a May fundraiser in Georgia, lieutenant-governor candidate Ralph Reed declared, “Rudy Giuliani is one of the finest leaders in not only the Republican party, but in either party.”

Such accolades, along with the early polls, provide the evidence for Rudy’s Republican boosters to argue that, although he is out of step with the GOP base on a host of issues, his demonstrated leadership and political celebrity can calm misgivings about his social liberalism and operatic personal life.

In his recent book Can She Be Stopped? Hillary Clinton Will Be the Next President of the United States Unless . . ., John Podhoretz outlines a ten-point plan to prevent that scary prospect. Point number ten is “Nominate Rudy.” Podhoretz counsels that Republicans “not hold ideological purity more dear than partisan victory in the coming two years.” And he believes that victory-minded Republicans are heeding his advice. In a recent column in the New York Post, he noted that Giuliani and McCain both hold views at odds with their party’s base yet head every poll of GOP primary voters. He concluded, “Such people tend to be more involved in and better informed about politics than the average American, so it stands to reason that they have some knowledge of McCain’s and Giuliani’s positions. And so far it isn’t bothering them. Why? One word: leadership.”

While allowing that Giuliani would “have to shift his ground and move toward social conservatives if he is to prevail,” Podhoretz’s bullish views on the former mayor echo those of other conservatives — who live or work in New York. Giuliani governed their ungovernable city and dramatically reduced crime, while holding views on law and order and welfare dependency that put him on the right of the city’s political spectrum. He cheered the city’s conservatives by racking up all the right enemies.



THREE STRIKES
In contrast, analysts west of the Hudson see little chance that Giuliani will get the nomination. When asked why not, one veteran strategist in a competitor’s camp laughingly answers, “God, guns, and gays,” and — as though to drive the point home to Giuliani, who is a devoted Yankees fan — adds, “Three strikes, you’re out.” Like others, the strategist concedes that the public’s 9/11 image of Giuliani transcends partisan politics, but argues that the image won’t last in a heated primary battle.

Even now there are widespread Republican reservations about Giuliani. He has almost 100 percent name recognition, gets rave reviews for his stellar performance on September 11, and wins praise for his enthusiastic support of President Bush; yet about 70 percent of likely Republican voters don’t endorse a potential Giuliani candidacy for president. The Washington Post’s Howard Kurtz recently wrote, “Those who think that the 9/11 hero would be a formidable candidate are forgetting about the 9/10 Rudy. Meaning, this is a guy who is pro-choice on abortion, pro-gay rights and moved in with a gay couple after a messy breakup with his wife that came as he was dating another woman.”

Most pro-choice Republican politicians and about 80 percent of the public support banning partial-birth abortions. When Giuliani was planning to run against Hillary Clinton for the Senate in 2000, New York’s Conservative party chairman Michael Long pledged to help the mayor on two conditions: that he refuse the Liberal party endorsement and that he promise to back a partial-birth-abortion ban. When Giuliani wouldn’t agree — even though no Republican had won statewide office without the endorsement of the Conservative party in over 25 years — one conservative activist told Newsday that the former mayor must be counting on anti-Hillary sentiment and allowed that conservatives might “vote for the town drunk” over Clinton. A repeated failure to moderate his views would suggest that Giuliani is still counting on that anti-Hillary animus.



Owing to Giuliani’s support for abortion, NARAL head Kate Michelman anticipated sitting out a Hillary Clinton–Rudy Giuliani Senate match-up. She explained that NARAL wouldn’t “take sides in the race because both likely candidates are abortion-rights advocates.” NARAL’s New York director Kelli Conlin now welcomes a Giuliani presidential run: “There’d be nothing better for us than to have a situation where both [presidential] candidates are pro-choice.”

Mayor Giuliani has regularly marched in the city’s vulgar gay-pride parades. When the Log Cabin Republicans — a group of GOP gay-rights advocates — refused to endorse George W. Bush for reelection, it announced, “The Republican Party has a choice: It can be the party of Rudy Giuliani and Arnold Schwarzenegger or it can be the party of Alan Keyes and Rick Santorum.” Of course, Iowa voters have a big say in that choice. In 2000, Bush had the endorsement of leading social conservatives — and Gary Bauer and Alan Keyes got a combined 24 percent of the GOP caucus votes.

The first Catholic to top a Republican presidential ticket is unlikely to be not only pro-abortion and pro-gay-rights, but also thrice-married. Barrels of tabloid ink have chronicled the scandalous personal life of Rudy Giuliani, who was openly squiring his “very good friend” Judith Nathan around town long before he called a press conference to tell his wife that he was in love with the divorcйe and wanted a separation. The estranged wife — his second — then accused him in a press conference of having had an earlier affair with a longtime aide. His first marriage was annulled in 1982 on the grounds that he and that wife were second cousins.

WORDS FROM THE VAULT

One conservative strategist predicts that when Giuliani’s positions and record are better known, conservative primary voters will not only back other candidates but mobilize against him. Republican voters who currently prefer Rudy Giuliani to John McCain because of the latter’s well-known maverick streak may not know that Mayor Giuliani endorsed Mario Cuomo for governor in 1994. And those who object to the McCain-Kennedy amnesty for illegal immigrants will learn that it enjoys Giuliani’s support. Many conservatives will be surprised to find out that, although Giuliani says Ronald Reagan is his political hero, 20 years ago he was calling attorney general Ed Meese, one of the most respected and beloved figures of the Reagan administration, a “sleaze.” Meese’s allies still bristle at what they see as Giuliani’s political opportunism in joining the assault on Meese to boost his career in liberal New York.



The research teams of other GOP contenders for the 2008 nomination haven’t yet taken Giuliani on, but George Marlin, who ran as a Conservative in New York’s 1993 mayoral race, has helpfully compiled a modest collection of quotes that will give primary voters pause. According to the Rudy Giuliani of 1992, Nelson Rockefeller represented “a tradition in the Republican party I’ve worked hard to rekindle — the Rockefeller, Javits, Lefkowitz tradition.” When the Liberal party of New York endorsed Giuliani for mayor in 1989, it explained, “He agreed with the Liberal party’s views on affirmative action, gay rights, gun control, school prayer, and tuition tax credits.”

Although Giuliani recently said that he is “seriously considering” a presidential run in 2008, many observers doubt he will seek the nomination. One cynic noted that “there is a big difference in the speaking fees of a future president and a former mayor.” Others see Giuliani and McCain competing for the same core supporters and predict a Giuliani bid only if the Arizonan declines to run (though everyone agrees that another terrorist attack on the U.S. would prioritize the War on Terror and provide an opening for the 9/11 Rudy).

“I am who I am,” Giuliani recently declared in response to criticism that his views are out of step with the Republican party. Yes; and his dim political prospects are also what they are.


TOPICS: Extended News; Politics/Elections; US: New York
KEYWORDS: election2008; electionpresident; giuliani; giuliani2008; obeirne; presidentialrace; republicans; rino
If he were nominated, I'd hold my nose and vote for him. But I really hope he's not nominated. Good leader and fantastic fundraiser, but he's pointedly to the left of the party on most issues (national security aside). Judicial nominees would likely be a big disappointment, just for starters.

Sorry for starting yet another Giuliani thread, but I didn't see this article posted yet.

1 posted on 07/25/2006 4:33:08 PM PDT by NYS_Eric
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To: NYS_Eric

Governors win.

Senators rarely and none in four decades.

Mayors?


2 posted on 07/25/2006 4:40:58 PM PDT by Names Ash Housewares
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To: NYS_Eric

I'll take him over a democrat in the White House again.


3 posted on 07/25/2006 4:43:29 PM PDT by somemoreequalthanothers (All for the betterment of "the state", comrade)
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To: NYS_Eric

RUDY/NEWT bring them on : )


4 posted on 07/25/2006 4:44:51 PM PDT by alisasny (Cynthia McKinny..INTERNATIONAL BLACK FEMALE CONGRESSPERSON OF MYSTERY)
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To: NYS_Eric

I will support a conservative in the primary, but I will vote enthusiastically for Rudy over Hil and Bill.


5 posted on 07/25/2006 4:52:33 PM PDT by npg
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To: NYS_Eric

Rudy would win! And win big! The dims would go crazy!


6 posted on 07/25/2006 4:53:39 PM PDT by tkathy (Einstein: Condemnation without investigation is the height of ignorance.)
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To: tkathy

Count me in. I'm anti-abortion but I'll gladly vote for Rudy over Hillary and McCain any day.


7 posted on 07/25/2006 5:18:35 PM PDT by BfloGuy (It is not from the benevolence of the butcher, the brewer, or the baker, that we can expect . . .)
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To: BfloGuy

I ditto that!!!!


8 posted on 07/25/2006 5:32:12 PM PDT by HarleyLady27 (My ? to libs: "Do they ever shut up on your planet?" "Grow your own DOPE: Plant a LIB!")
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To: NYS_Eric
I'd vote for Rudy over any dem in 2008; however I'm leaning more towards Romney right now ...
9 posted on 07/25/2006 6:25:16 PM PDT by PackerBronco
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To: Liz

ping


10 posted on 07/25/2006 6:45:05 PM PDT by jla
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The Quotable Rudolph W. Giuliani

The New York State Liberal Party on Rudy Giuliani:

Some ask, How can the Liberal Party support a candidate who disagrees with the Liberal Party position on so many gut issues? But when the Liberal Party Policy Committee reviewed a list of key social issues of deep concern to progressive New Yorkers, we found that Rudy Giuliani agreed with the Liberal Party's stance on a majority of such issues. He agreed with the Liberal Party's views on affirmative action, gay rights, gun control, school prayer and tuition tax credits. As Mayor, Rudy Giuliani would uphold the Constitutional and legal rights to abortion.
--N.Y.S. Liberal Party Endorsement Statement of R. Giuliani for Mayor of New York City April 8, 1989

On the Republican Party:

Mr. Rockefeller represented "a tradition in the Republican Party I've worked hard to re-kindle - the Rockefeller, Javits, Lefkowitz tradition."

--Rudy Giuliani
New York Times
July 9, 1992

What kind of Republican? Is [Giuliani], for instance, a Reagan Republican? [Giuliani] pauses before answering: "I'm a Republican."

--Village Voice
January 24, 1989

On Attending 1996 Republican Convention:

Rudy even expressed his pleasure when he wasn't invited to the Republican National Convention in San Diego. "If I take three or four days off from city business, I want to do it for a substantive purpose. It didn't seem to me any substantive purpose could be served by going to the Republican convention."

--Rudy - An Investigative Biography of Rudolph Giuliani,
Page 459, Wayne Barrett

On Barry Goldwater:

He [Giuliani] described John Kennedy as "great and brilliant." Barry Goldwater was an "incompetent, confused and sometimes idiotic man."

--New York Daily News,
May 13, 1997

On President Bill Clinton:

Shortly before his last-minute endorsement of Bob Dole in the 1996 presidential election, [Giuliani] told the Post's Jack Newfield that "most of Clinton's policies are very similar to most of mine." The Daily News quoted [Giuliani] as saying that March: "Whether you talk about President Clinton, Senator Dole.... The country would be in very good hands in the hands of any of that group."

Revealing at one point that he was "open" to the idea of endorsing Clinton, he explained: "When I ran for mayor both times, '89 and '93, I promised people that I would be, if not bipartisan, at least open to the possibility of supporting Democrats."

--Rudy - An Investigative Biography of Rudolph Giuliani,
Wayne Barrett, Page 459

Rudy Giuliani's October 1994 Endorsement of Democratic Governor Mario Cuomo:

"From my point of view as the mayor of New York City, the question that I have to ask is, ‘Who has the best chance in the next four years of successfully fighting for our interest? Who understands them, and who will make the best case for it?' Our future, our destiny is not a matter of chance. It's a matter of choice. My choice is Mario Cuomo."

--Rudy Giuliani: Emperor of the City
Andrew Kirtzman, Page 133

Reaction to Giuliani Endorsement of Cuomo:

"Once again, Rudolph Giuliani has demonstrated that liberalism is the foundation of his political philosophy. While Giuliani sold a bill of goods to trusting Republicans and Reagan Democrats that he had abandoned his roots as a McGovern Democrat, in his endorsement of Mario Cuomo, Mr. Liberal himself, he has shown his true colors. Giuliani's argument that Cuomo will be better for the city has a hollow ring to it. Perhaps Rudy wants a governor who will sign over a blank check to constantly bail out the city from its fiscal problems. Giuliani knows, as do all New Yorkers, that Cuomo's liberal policies have been an economic disaster for our city and state."

"But Rudy doesn't care. He has proven he will do anything to stop the election of a conservative Republican - but he won't succeed."

--Michael Long, Chairman N.Y.S. Conservative Party Press Statement,
October 25, 1994

"[Quite] frankly, you have to understand the fact that Rudy Giuliani was a McGovern Democrat, he was endorsed by the Liberal Party when he ran for Mayor. In his heart, he's a Democrat. He's paraded all over this country with Bill Clinton and, in fact, he's very comfortable with Mario Cuomo. But what Rudy Giuliani wants is to be bailed out in the city, in the mess he's in, and everybody understands very clearly in politics that they struck a deal, that Mario's going to continue to be the big spender, save Rudy the options of raising taxes by pouring money statewide into the City of New York and bailing it out. Quite frankly, I predict that he will join the Democratic Party."

--Interview with Michael Long, Chairman N.Y.S. Conservative Party,
CNN Crossfire, October 25, 1994

On Gay Domestic-Partner Rights:

National Republicans can lump it if they don't like his new domestic-partners bill, Mayor Giuliani said yesterday.

"I really haven't thought about what the impact is on Republican politics or national politics or Democratic politics," Giuliani said.

The bill he submitted to the City Council would extend the benefits city agencies must grant to gay and lesbian couples.

"I'm proud of it," Giuliani said of the bill. "I think it puts New York City ahead of other places in the country."

--New York Daily News, May 13, 1998

On Gay-Rights\Gay Rights Bill:

Giuliani favors extended civil-rights protection for gays and lesbians. Giuliani urged, by letter, to the New York Senate Majority Leader to pass the state's first ever gay rights bill, but did it privately.

"I am writing to convey my support for the current legislation to prohibit discrimination against gays and lesbians, and to urge you to allow the bill onto the floor of the Senate for prompt action."

"...It is my belief that we can penalize discrimination [against gays] without creating any potentially objectionable special privileges or preferential treatment."

--New York Post, June 5, 1993

Now Rudy Giuliani has jumped on the bandwagon, pressing the state Republican Party to release a gay-rights bill to the Senate floor for a vote. Marching in Sunday's [Gay Pride] parade, he has enlisted in the struggle to destroy the family. What a perfectly abominable springboard to seek high political office.

--Ray Kerrison
New York Post, June 30, 1993

Giuliani said homosexuality is "good and normal."

--Ray Kerrison
New York Post, July 7, 1989

On Gay Domestic Partnership:

"I have no objection to the concept of domestic partnership."

--Rudy Giuliani
Informed Sources
New York T.V. Show (PBS), May, 1992

On Abortion:

Leaflets distributed by the Giuliani campaign .... said that he opposes restrictions to Federal Medicaid financing for abortions and opposes the Hyde Amendment, which is intended to deny support for that financing.

--New York Times, June 18, 1993

"I'd give my daughter the money for it [an abortion]."

"I never called for the overturning of Roe vs. Wade."

--Rudy Giuliani
New York Newsday, September 1, 1989

As mayor, Rudy Giuliani will uphold a woman's right of choice to have an abortion. Giuliani will fund all city programs which provide abortions to insure that no woman is deprived of her right due to an inability to pay. He will oppose reductions in state funding. He will oppose making abortion illegal.

--New York Times, August 4, 1989

On Partial Birth Abortion:

Mr. Giuliani has said that New York State law should not be changed to outlaw the procedure.

-- New York Times, January 7, 1998

On School Choice:

"I wanted to know if he supports tuition tax credits and vouchers, which he doesn't."

--Sandra Feldman,
President of N.Y.C. Teacher's Union, 1993

On Taxes:

[Giuliani] says ruling out a tax increase is "political pandering."

--Newsday, August 31, 1989


Source

11 posted on 07/25/2006 6:45:44 PM PDT by jla
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Rudy Giuliani: The Knight and ‘The Queen’     11/28/2001

According to The London Times, New York City Mayor Rudolph Giuliani gives kisses before he leaves every morning, but to neither his estranged wife, nor his girlfriend. Instead, says The Times, “Sir Rudy” gives a peck on the cheek to the two homosexual men he’s living with.

“We always get a little kiss, it’s cute,” says wealthy car dealer Howard Koeppel, with whom Giuliani has been sharing an apartment since June. When Giuliani was recently knighted, Koeppel tells The Times that he told “Sir Rudy” to call him “Queen Howard.” Koeppel (63) and his homosexual lover Mark Hsiao (41) have been comforting Giuliani, and trying to make him laugh, in the aftermath of the September 11 attacks.

On the way to a recent fundraising dinner for the pro-homosexual state lobby group, The Empire State Pride Agenda (ESPA), Koeppel ribbed Giuliani by saying that if the ESPA was able to raise $100,000 donation for the homosexual victims of the September 11 attacks, Giuliani should agree to appear on Showtime’s controversial Queer as Folk dressed in drag. Surprisingly, Giuliani agreed.

Marty Algaze of Gay Men’s Health Crisis once summed up Queer as Folk — a show that touts graphic sexual activity as one of its biggest draws — as one that would “shock a lot of people.” Showtime’s Queer as Folk was inspired by the original series in Britain, which featured a storyline in which a 29-year-old man has a sexual relationship with a 15-year-old boy.

The propensity to shock people is not new to Giuliani, who likes to dress in women’s clothes as a stage act, and even did so once at a Pride Agenda fund-raiser.

According to the Times, Giuliani has attended every “gay pride” parade in New York during his eight years as mayor. In 1992, during his first run for mayor, Giuliani took part in a homosexual “pride” parade that included a contingent of pedophile activists marching behind a banner for NAMBLA (North American Man/Boy Love Association).

Ken Ervin

 

Concerned Women for America
1015 Fifteenth St. N.W., Suite 1100
Washington, D.C. 20005
Phone: (202) 488-7000
Fax: (202) 488-0806
E-mail: mail@cwfa.org

12 posted on 07/25/2006 6:46:13 PM PDT by jla
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New York City - June 24, 2001. The Annual Heritage of Pride Parade. This one, just weeks before 9/11. Noted appearances by Jr. Sen. Hillary R. Clinton and Fmr. Mayor Rudy Giuliani.

Sodomites on Parade Part I

Sodomites on Parade Part II

As depraved as these videos are every American should view them. This is what the social engineers wish to foist on the good and decent folks of this great nation.


13 posted on 07/25/2006 6:47:09 PM PDT by jla
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The "Man" who would be president?
14 posted on 07/25/2006 6:48:44 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: jla
Hard to understand why a cover girl would not be a viable candidate (/sarc).

The Guiliani types are suffering from Narcissistic Personality Disorder, a mental condition that makes them hallucinate, thinking Rudy can say or do anything, using any means necessary, to takeover the Republican party. Rudy has a blue state strategy that he intends to use to roll over conservatives. Rudy's candidacy is designed to hijack the Republican party from conservatives who have cared for it through the Reagan-Bush years.

"I'm Not Him"----Rudy's blue state campaign slogan---taking all the credit for 9/11 away from George W Bush.

15 posted on 07/26/2006 5:14:29 AM PDT by Liz (The US Constitution is intended to protect the people from the government.)
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To: jla

16 posted on 07/26/2006 5:15:13 AM PDT by Liz (The US Constitution is intended to protect the people from the government.)
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