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We’re Losing World War IV ... How to get back to the road to victory.
National Review ^ | August 4, 2006 | By Barbara Lerner

Posted on 08/04/2006 7:47:46 AM PDT by aculeus

The Shiite mullahs who rule Iran and have seized the leadership of the Islamofascist war against us are as dangerous an enemy as America has ever faced. [snip]

In the 1980s, Iran’s mullahs created Hezbollah, a Shiite Arab terrorist group in Lebanon, and used it to drive us from that country the way they drove us from Iran, but this time, they didn’t just humiliate us and mock our impotence; they tortured and murdered our embassy people in Beirut, and blew up 241 of our marines.

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We should not wait, passively, for the Iranians to unveil their surprise. We should light up the skies with our own surprise: a massive aerial bombardment that wipes out most of Iran’s nuclear facilities, and decimates the ranks of its mullahs as well as those of the Revolutionary Guard and Basij forces that keep them in power ... Retired air force Lt. General Tom McInerney already has a plan to wipe out most of Iran’s nuclear facilities from the air. As I’ve argued, we should augment it with additional targets and let fly, as soon as possible, with no forewarning, for maximum effect. Lt. Col. Gordon Cucullu, one of the few who argues in public for a similarly bold course sums it up this way:

By waiting for a first strike we are put in a position of playing a retaliation game after we have already endured unacceptable losses in population and perception. Once America and Israel are seen as weak enough to defeat, then the international jackals will all join in for the kill. This is what our enemies hope to accomplish…We face a crisis of major proportions. Hesitation may be fatal.

He’s right. The time to act is now.

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TOPICS: Editorial; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 2006israelwar; gwot; hezbollah; iran; israel; waronterror; wot; wwiv
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To: fso301

Does that mean he wouldn't have had Aryan Citizenship papers?


41 posted on 08/04/2006 9:22:43 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: 2001convSVT
(As I've said before) Way too many people here think WWII when looking at this war, when (IMO) they should be thinking Cold War, in terms of how long we're looking at. This is a guerrilla war on a world wide scale.. That means you fight it differently than a conventional war.
42 posted on 08/04/2006 9:26:01 AM PDT by Valin (http://www.irey.com/)
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To: RedQuill

Well, thanks for trying . . . but that's the wrong answer.


43 posted on 08/04/2006 9:34:32 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (Can money pay for all the days I lived awake but half asleep?)
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To: LasVegasMac

I understand Jack Daniels and his friends are good at keeping those whom ponder - good company 8-)


44 posted on 08/04/2006 9:35:08 AM PDT by edcoil (Reality doesn't say much - doesn't need too)
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To: aculeus
When in doubt, bomb.


BUMP

45 posted on 08/04/2006 9:40:20 AM PDT by capitalist229 (Get Democrats out of our pockets and Republicans out of our bedrooms.)
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To: MNJohnnie
This is NOT counter insurgency. This is crushing the "Islamic Republic of Iran", and it needs to be done now.
46 posted on 08/04/2006 9:48:17 AM PDT by gafusa
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To: tx_eggman

You beat me to it. One of VDH's best.


47 posted on 08/04/2006 9:53:06 AM PDT by John Valentine
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To: Tokra
It will be much worse this time - the Nazis didn't have the capability of taking out NY and DC in a split second. Iran will.

They may already have.

In any case, the 12thers have an apocalyptic world view that inclines them to armageddon. The are quite forthright about it.

Anyone who simply shrugs this off simply is leaving in a concocted liberal la-la land.

Some may say that we can't engage in preemptive war. There is nothing pre-emptive about this. We are NOW engaged in a war that we are fighting as if we might babel to win a partial victory. In this war, victory has to be total.

We CAN'T let Iran get nukes. Can't.

Period.

48 posted on 08/04/2006 9:59:24 AM PDT by John Valentine
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To: andre573

Yes, but it can be done. Sure it will be ugly. And no more of this limited war BS. We have to slaughter the Iranian government and armed forces entirely. We need 100,000s of military and government deaths. Leave no government facility, down to the smallest office standing, unless they give a unconditional surrender first. Ugly but war always is. The price of oil is nothing compared to the alternative. The idea is for Iran to nuke us and Israel, and while we are in confusion, Chinese and Islamic agents will launch all sorts of terrorist and other unconventional attacks across the US, throwing us into further confusion. Then all our enemies, China, Russia, Syria, Venezuela, North Korea, Cuba, (Iran is nuclear waste at this point, but the Chinese and Russians do not care) will attack us and our interests from all sides. We may lose. This is life or death.


49 posted on 08/04/2006 10:00:40 AM PDT by gafusa
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To: fso301
Hitler was part Jewish

Not to mention he was also gay.

50 posted on 08/04/2006 10:01:07 AM PDT by Alouette (Psalms of the Day: 55-59)
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To: NonValueAdded
We lost the Battle of Vietnam...

Not exactly true.

We had it "won", then walked away.

51 posted on 08/04/2006 10:02:06 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Alberta's Child

Now I'm interested--What building was seized before the US Embassy? The Shah's Palace? I dunno. Tell me.


52 posted on 08/04/2006 10:07:50 AM PDT by RedQuill
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To: Alouette
Not to mention he was also gay.

And missing a testicle rumored to have been removed as part of an occult ritual.

53 posted on 08/04/2006 10:08:19 AM PDT by fso301
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To: Calpernia
Does that mean he wouldn't have had Aryan Citizenship papers?

As far as I know, yes. Nor would he have needed any. Papers are a form of proof. Who would dare ask the fuehrer for proof of anything?

54 posted on 08/04/2006 10:13:40 AM PDT by fso301
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To: Alouette
Hitler was part Jewish Not to mention he was also gay.

Pretty strange statement. Is this why he sent homosexuals to the gas chamber? Because he was one of them?

Hitler hated homos - when he found out one of his aides was homosexual, he had him immediately shot.

Doesn't sound very "gay" to me.

55 posted on 08/04/2006 10:22:49 AM PDT by Tokra (I think I'll retire to Bedlam.)
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To: Valin
It's leftist canon.

Example, Steven Kinzer.

See this review of his book and this page from a lefty site that shows all his books and you'll note the theme is that the US is always wrong and causes all the trouble by overthrowing regimes etc...

For good measure here's Kinzer featured on NPR.

56 posted on 08/04/2006 10:23:25 AM PDT by tallhappy (Juntos Podemos!)
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To: aculeus
"More ominous yet, they (the Mullahs) threaten to unleash an apocalyptic surprise on us on August 22, the night they believe Mohammed lit up the skies by ascending to heaven from the Al Aqsa mosque in Jerusalem....Most Americans are still unaware of Iran’s promise to light up the skies with a great surprise on August 22, but Muslims everywhere are keenly aware of it; most await the day with growing excitement."

We've been given our warning. Our media has dismissed it, or ignored it. Our politicians say nothing. The clock is ticking. Will we wake that morning to another horror?
57 posted on 08/04/2006 10:28:48 AM PDT by mojito
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To: Tokra
Is this why he sent homosexuals to the gas chamber? Because he was one of them?

In case you weren't paying attention, I was responding to another poster who claimed Hitler was Jewish.

Note to self: must use </sarcasm> tags

58 posted on 08/04/2006 10:28:57 AM PDT by Alouette (Psalms of the Day: 55-59)
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To: Alberta's Child
Savak headquarters?
59 posted on 08/04/2006 10:35:15 AM PDT by 91B (God made man, Sam Colt made men equal)
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To: tallhappy
Cold War is not WWIII and that sort of navel gazing self mythologizing simply detracts.

Gazing? Over 5 million people died in the cold war! Damn right it was WWIII! Fought Koreans, Vietmanese, Chinese and Russians! This is WWIV!

60 posted on 08/04/2006 10:35:41 AM PDT by Bommer
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