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Armed With Iran's Millions, Fighters Turn To Rebuilding
The Washington Post ^ | Wednesday, August 16, 2006 | Anthony Shadid

Posted on 08/16/2006 3:15:27 PM PDT by A. Pole

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To: A. Pole

I am all for understanding in the name of destroying them, but nothing more.


21 posted on 08/16/2006 3:50:10 PM PDT by RolandBurnam (para mi tagline in ess spanyol markay dose)
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To: DTogo
Armed With Iran's Millions, Fighters Turn To Rebuilding
A caller on El-Rushbo today made the excellent point of how the MSM highlights the Hezbos' reconstruction of Lebanon, but what of our military's far more numerous reconstruction projects in Iraq?
The US is only dedicating hundreds of billions to the reconstruction of Iraq.

Iran is dedicating millions to the reconstruction of Lebanon! </sarcasm>


22 posted on 08/16/2006 3:51:32 PM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (The idea around which liberalism coheres is that NOTHING actually matters except PR.)
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To: A. Pole
..watch for BLUEHELMETGUY to be operating a crane. al NYT did a great piece today depicting the Hezbo's as hero's.
23 posted on 08/16/2006 3:59:38 PM PDT by Doogle (USAF...68-73,,..."never store a threat you should have eliminated")
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To: RolandBurnam

They don't want any foreign construction companies to get in there and find all the bunkers and weapon stashes, we can wait to see which building they rebuild first, thus are the buildings with bunker under them.


24 posted on 08/16/2006 4:02:46 PM PDT by Jack_1
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To: A. Pole

Rush was hilarious today suggesting the 'Hezbos' take over in place of the Red Cross (while blasting the NYT) for relief efforts since they got in so quick.


25 posted on 08/16/2006 4:04:49 PM PDT by quantim (Victory is not relative, it is absolute.)
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To: airborne

I think the western media has graudated to a new term. Rather than "drive by media" "main stream media" etc, I like to adapt Bush's quote and call them the "pro facist media." Or you could take it one step further, "collaborationist media".

Either way, they are accurately described as America hating bastards.


26 posted on 08/16/2006 4:05:08 PM PDT by Go Army.com (A slight modification of the story, bringing out the facts)
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To: Harley69

Which, of course, will be diverted to the Hezzballess, so their agents can pose and take credit.

Meanwhile, the EVIL U.S. and Israelis will continue to be portrayed as aggressors, and the innocent Lebonese, the victims of the aggression.


27 posted on 08/16/2006 4:09:00 PM PDT by girlangler ((Fish fear me))
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To: Trust but Verify
It's a shame all these nicely-dressed moonlighting soldiers want to kill us, convert at knifepoint any hold-out infidels, want to overthrow our government and replace it with Islamic sharia. Since that's all the case, they must die before they accomplish anything in advancement of those goals.

The world will still have enough pleasant people without these 9th-century barbarians that murder their own and their neighbors' kids as easy as 1-2-3!

HF

28 posted on 08/16/2006 4:11:48 PM PDT by holden (holden on'a'na truth, de whole truth, 'n nuttin' but de truth)
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To: Tallguy
Good point. OTOH, the early Zionists didn't undergo a concerted attack by artillery & aircraft -- later backed up by a mechanized assault

Good point. OTOH, the early Zionists didn't have underground bunkers filled with weapons and a 20,000+ missile collection worth over a billion dollars.

29 posted on 08/16/2006 4:20:12 PM PDT by Nachum
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To: Trust but Verify

"the positions of Hezbollah fighter and relief worker are interchangeable."

Just ask the UN!


30 posted on 08/16/2006 4:23:59 PM PDT by Proud_USA_Republican (We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good. - Hillary Clinton)
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To: A. Pole; Go Army.com; Timesink; martin_fierro; reformed_democrat; Loyalist; =Intervention=; ...
The Terrorist Media! PING

For 34 days, Abu Shaker was a Hezbollah fighter. By 6:30 a.m. Tuesday, he had taken charge as a relief worker.

As Freeper Go Army.com puts it:

"I think the western media has graduated to a new term. Rather than "drive by media" "main stream media" etc, I like to adapt Bush's quote and call them the "pro fascist media." Or you could take it one step further, "collaborationist media"."

"Either way, they are accurately described as America hating bastards."
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Amen to that.

31 posted on 08/16/2006 8:16:53 PM PDT by an amused spectator (Bush Runner! The Donkey is after you! Bush Runner! When he catches you, you're through!)
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Only millions?

Let them spend the billions they'd use to create innocent blood and war to instead rebuild what can be destroyed again unless they disarm and behave.


32 posted on 08/16/2006 8:19:35 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: A. Pole
In that environment, Hezbollah distinguished itself as a social organization by its lack of corruption, ability to mobilize its people and success in fulfilling its promises.

So if Habitat for Humanity acquires lots of automatic weapons and a bunch of rockets and antitank missiles to "deal with" the Hispanics that the HfH board has suddenly decided are "undesirables", it's OK?

It's beyond Kafkaesque...

33 posted on 08/16/2006 8:25:30 PM PDT by an amused spectator (Bush Runner! The Donkey is after you! Bush Runner! When he catches you, you're through!)
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"collaborationist media" works - then again, there's nothing wrong with
America hating bastards...


34 posted on 08/16/2006 8:39:53 PM PDT by GOPJ (A flurry of stories defending the '69 moon landing has the feel of trying too hard...)
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To: L98Fiero

LOL so true..


35 posted on 08/16/2006 8:39:53 PM PDT by cibco (Xin Loi! Saddam)
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion
The US is only dedicating hundreds of billions to the reconstruction of Iraq. Iran is dedicating millions to the reconstruction of Lebanon!

I do not know about US dedicating hundreds of billions and Hezbollah/Iran contribution is going to be much larger than few millions.

Still, the key thing is to remember that US billions might be going to US based contractors and cost of US operations while Hezbollah/Iran's millions go to the local people whose services are incomparably cheaper.

In addition the money paid to the Lebanese workers will circulate locally causing multiplier effect and their efforts will not be sabotaged by the insurgents. Also the south of Lebanon has the population several times smaller.

So 10 million there might equal at least US billion in Iraq.

36 posted on 08/17/2006 5:56:08 PM PDT by A. Pole (George Orwell: "In times of universal deceit, telling the truth will be a revolutionary act.")
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I do not know about US dedicating hundreds of billions
The total US expenditure in Iraq does run to the hundreds of billions - all of which is for the purpose of converting Iraq from a despotism which conducted a civil war of sorts against Iraq's people. Whatever it cost to conquer Saddam's forces you might deduct from the total if you wish, but that would be no more than the half of it, and you are still talking hundreds of billions, I think, in reconstruction and security efforts.
and Hezbollah/Iran contribution is going to be much larger than few millions.
Perhaps so - but much of my sarcasm was directed at the article for mentioning "millions" as if that were real money in context. If a few millions - which is all the headline really indicates - is enough to fix Lebanon, then the collateral damage of Israel's attacks on Hezbollah is not only less than the news reports tried to suggest but even less than I supposed.
Still, the key thing is to remember that US billions might be going to US based contractors and cost of US operations while Hezbollah/Iran's millions go to the local people whose services are incomparably cheaper.
In addition the money paid to the Lebanese workers will circulate locally causing multiplier effect and their efforts will not be sabotaged by the insurgents. Also the south of Lebanon has the population several times smaller.
IOW, the problem of reconstruction of Lebanon is not a humanitarian catastrophe but essentially trivial. But Lebanon would, the implication of the article is, be eternally endebted to Hezbollah for restoring South Lebanon to the status quo ante - which will unfortunately include the real purpose of Hezbollah, arming up for another battle with Israel.
So 10 million there might equal at least US billion in Iraq.
. . . which still leaves a factor of a couple hundred between the likely Iranian reconstruction effort and the US reconstruction effort in Iraq.

And the battle which Hezbollah plans will threaten Israel more effectively and that will force Israel to take the gloves off and cause more damage to South Lebanon than this last battle did. Which is all too certain to cancel out this reconstruction entirely, thereby mooting your assumed 100:1 advantage in cost effectiveness of Iranian vs US reconstruction.

Of course it has to be reckoned that a cut-and-run Democratic Congress in '07-'08 could moot the US effort in Iraq just about as effectively . . .


37 posted on 08/18/2006 2:39:32 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (The idea around which liberalism coheres is that NOTHING actually matters except PR.)
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"fighters"

Armed terrorist groups are just another NGO to the WaPo.

38 posted on 08/18/2006 2:57:50 AM PDT by metesky ("Brethren, leave us go amongst them." Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton - Ward Bond- The Searchers)
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