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CBS To Air Profanity-Laden Program (Complaint About "9/11" Documentary)
American Family Association ^ | August 2006 | n/a

Posted on 08/28/2006 7:22:45 PM PDT by Pyro7480

Not content with all the profanity already on TV, CBS has decided to air the profanity-laden unedited version of "9/11" on Sept. 10. The decision by CBS is a slap in the face to the FCC and Congress, which recently raised indecency fines to $325,000 per incident.

"9/11," which will be shown in prime-time, contains a tremendous amount of hardcore profanity. CBS has stated they have not, and will not, make any cuts in the amount and degree of profanity. CBS will ignore the law. The network is suing the FCC over the indecency law, saying they should be able to show whatever they desire whenever they desire. CBS wants no limits.

This is a test case for CBS to see how far they can go. If there is no out-pouring of complaints from the public, they will go further the next time.

(Excerpt) Read more at afa.net ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: afa; cbs; documentary; donaldwildmon; fcc; fifthanniversary; filth; filthyprofanities; getagrip; getalife; mrsgrundy; naughtywords; obscene; obscenefilth; profane; profanefilth; profanity; trashtv
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To: KoRn



This has got to be a troll trap.


261 posted on 08/29/2006 11:13:59 PM PDT by stands2reason (ANAGRAM for the day: Socialist twaddle == Tact is disallowed)
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To: stands2reason

so social conservatives are considered trolls now. Is that it?


262 posted on 08/29/2006 11:16:24 PM PDT by balch3
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To: balch3

Oh God, no.

Just you.


263 posted on 08/29/2006 11:24:14 PM PDT by stands2reason (ANAGRAM for the day: Socialist twaddle == Tact is disallowed)
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To: stands2reason

whatever you say. I don't really care.


264 posted on 08/29/2006 11:25:03 PM PDT by balch3
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To: Pyro7480

I understand that people would be concerned about certain words being on the television.
I am concerned myself, of course, with what my children watch..and monitor it VERY closely.

That being said...
By the time my child is OLD enough to see this documentary..he will already know the word F*&K and any other word that is spoken on the film.

It will probably be the first time we listen to those kind of words together....and I am sure hearing the F-Word will be the LAST thing on our minds.


265 posted on 08/29/2006 11:25:51 PM PDT by M0sby (((PROUD WIFE of MSgt Edwards USMC)))
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To: Roccus

You don't know how much I cried that day and for weeks after, or how I still cringe inside when I think of those who knew they were going to die, who were terrified and helpless, not to mention all the loved ones and even the 911 operators who surely must still hear those anguished voices. Nor do you know how angry I get when so many focus on the Towers and somehow forget the people in the Pentagon and those on the planes.

I'm sickened by anyone who wants to use the events of September 11th for their own advantage, and that includes CBS.

Contrary to what you apparently think, I wasn't using "filmmakers" and "program" perjoratively. I don't care for September 11th being abbreviated to 9/11; it seems a little off-hand to me, but it's not important enough on which to base wild accusations.


266 posted on 08/29/2006 11:40:20 PM PDT by skr (We cannot play innocents abroad in a world that is not innocent.-- Ronald Reagan)
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To: skr

CBS is using this for their advantage? Is it not airing the program commercial free? They would give up how many hours of commercial time because they just love the F word so much?????

Come. on.


267 posted on 08/30/2006 12:36:22 AM PDT by RippyO
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To: Pyro7480

TV Gnatzi's with their panties in a bunch. There's nothing decent about 3,000 American's losing their life. To have 9/11 sanitized is tantamount to shading the truth.


268 posted on 08/30/2006 4:10:44 AM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (There is no alternative to the GOP except varying degrees of insanity.)
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To: Phantom Lord
Isn't the AFA responsible for better than 98% of all FCC indecency complaint?

They're nothing but a pain in the <censored by the AFA>.

269 posted on 08/30/2006 4:16:00 AM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (There is no alternative to the GOP except varying degrees of insanity.)
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To: Corin Stormhands
But I think there was also an uproar about the language then as well.

The FCC dealt with complaints then, and didn't fine CBS because the film was historically accurate.

ABC showed Pearl Harbor a few years ago, uncut and commercial free, and a bunch of TV Gnatzi's complained and the FCC also said that the movie was historically accurate.

270 posted on 08/30/2006 4:27:43 AM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (There is no alternative to the GOP except varying degrees of insanity.)
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To: mjaneangels@aolcom
The majority of tvs in this country still do not have cable.

I find that "figure" hard to believe.

271 posted on 08/30/2006 4:30:30 AM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (There is no alternative to the GOP except varying degrees of insanity.)
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To: Xenalyte

:-)


272 posted on 08/30/2006 4:31:21 AM PDT by Larry Lucido ("There's no problem so big that government intervention can't make it worse.")
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To: RippyO
You do remember when NBC aired Schindler's List, unedited, 9 years ago? Was that their 'test case'? I fail to recall any recent hard-core pornography shown on the Peacock channel.

I remember. NBC had disclaimers in their promotional ads for the movie as well as before the movie began and at the end of each commercial break, and not a single complaint was lobbed toward NBC, General Electric or the FCC.

273 posted on 08/30/2006 4:33:25 AM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (There is no alternative to the GOP except varying degrees of insanity.)
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To: swmobuffalo
Why don't we wait and see what the local affiliates will do?

Those who aren't owned by CBS itself will have the option to pre-empt it. Those stations who are owned by CBS will have to show it, regardless.

274 posted on 08/30/2006 4:37:00 AM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (There is no alternative to the GOP except varying degrees of insanity.)
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To: NurdlyPeon; TWohlford; Pyro7480; One-Four-Five
This is actually an interesting discussion, because there are two issues here that cut in opposite directions.

Of course this documentary about a national tragedy is just that -- a public document. And just as the trial, e.g., of the Scottsboro Boys in our grandfathers' time was amazing in its frankness in dealing with sexual issues and biological evidence, so nobody who deals with the public business should be looking the other way or scrunching his eyes shut and generally playing sissy.

That said, I think it's a good argument, that CBS is using this essential public document and all the dramatic power in it, to push a vendetta against the idea of community standards, prurience, and what constitutes acceptable family programming. CBS is vindictively trying to reverse the well-deserved slapping-around they got after the Janet Jackson Superbowl incident, and to take back the initiative from the FCC on public decency.

CBS's position is, we will decide what "community standards" are! (And we'll use money as our metric, but that's another matter......) And public policy is just the opposite: No, the networks and licensees do not decide, the public decides.

CBS deserves to lose this issue, because they're punks, and this scam proves it.

That all said, how would I handle the documentary? I'd put it on later at night, when all the kids are in bed anyway, and I'd go ahead and run the warnings about uncut footage and soundtracks, and show the documentary intact.

And then, I'd have the chairman of the FCC pull the president of CBS aside and rip his face off for about 15 minutes for having tried to be a punk, and I'd leave him with absolutely no doubt about who was in charge of the question of community standards, and if he ever tried to screw with the FCC again, it'd cost his network $50,000,000 just for trying, plus whatever else I decided to tack on for his having been a punk again after I told him to knock it off.

275 posted on 08/30/2006 4:41:19 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: Pyro7480

I recall two (count 'em) episodes of naughty language on the DVD of "9/11." The first is a collective "Oh, S###!" uttered by everyone as the first plane hits. The second is a police officer yelling at the cameraman to move on: "This ain't F###ing Disneyland!"


276 posted on 08/30/2006 4:42:23 AM PDT by Alouette (Psalms of the Day: 35-38)
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To: killjoy
If the profanity in it offends you, deal with it. Life sucks, wear a helmet.

Really. Although I no longer swear as much as I used to (my late wife housebroke me) I do notice when it is not being used. A movie scene with men in hard combat saying “Oh gosh”, or a hard core criminal saying “Gee wiz” just doesn’t sound right.

277 posted on 08/30/2006 4:46:03 AM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
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To: R. Scott

Dang! You're right.


278 posted on 08/30/2006 4:48:00 AM PDT by durasell (!)
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To: Responsibility2nd
Why is it OK for CBS to air unedited profanity?

That's a philosophical question. The more important question is, why would it be OK for the government to force CBS to edit profanity out of a factual account of the most important event of our lifetime?

If/when that happens, can we expect Jim Robinson to allow a word for dirty-word tanscript here at Free Republic?

Ask him. His site, his rules. Exercising control over your own publication isn't censorship -- it's called editing.

279 posted on 08/30/2006 4:48:19 AM PDT by ReignOfError
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To: mjaneangels@aolcom
So you are all for children learning any and all language that is aired on broadcast tv?

Any child who is too young/not mature enough to handle hearing the f-bomb shouldn't be watching graphic footage of real-life violence, including people jumping to their deaths. That's where the parental discretion part comes in.

Contrary to popular belief (and George Carlin), the FCC has never maintained a list of words that are universally verboten. Obscenity depends on the use and meaning of the word -- if it addresses a sex act or bodily function, it's more suspect than the same word used in a figurative or general sense. So you're more lilkely to get away with saying that you're p---ed off than that you've been p---ed on.

It would take a stretch that would make a yoga master wince to claim that the wordy dirds in the 9/11 documentary are meant to titillate, or could have that effect. I don't think there's any room to argue that the acts documented are orders of magnitude more obscene than any words blurted in reaction could ever be.

If you wish to shield children from obscenity -- and I don't blame you for doing so until they're old enough to absorb and understand what happened on that awful day -- the words are the least of the concerns. It's like letting your kids watch someone being mauled to death by a lion but being concerned that the bloody victim might be naked at some point.

280 posted on 08/30/2006 5:11:28 AM PDT by ReignOfError
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