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SAT Scores See Biggest Decline Since 1975
Wall Street Journal ^ | 30 August 2006 | ROBERT TOMSHO

Posted on 08/30/2006 2:42:34 PM PDT by shrinkermd

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To: RKV

You do know, Bill Shockley got in trouble for saying as much (and more).


81 posted on 08/30/2006 7:47:25 PM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: Victoria Delsoul
Yep - a lot of folks have an extraordinary amount emotionally invested in a number. Whether its SAT score, a GPA, an LSAT score, an entry-level salary, whatever.

A lot of people find it difficult to cope with the concept that the smartest people aren't the most successful in life: career, financial, relationships, many things.
82 posted on 08/30/2006 7:49:29 PM PDT by HitmanLV ("If at first you don't succeed, keep on sucking until you do succeed." - Jerry 'Curly' Howard)
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To: Lancey Howard
I didn't suggest the data wasn't reliable, I just said some conclusions could be more dubious than others, and offered some other conclusions.

It's reasonable to conclude from that graph, for example, that asians and whites spend more time, money, and resources to preparing for the exams rather than hispanics or blacks.

Every test just measures what is being tested. Any test with a consistent methodology can be prepped for. If a test has a notable bias, that's a good thing: train to handle the bias. If you can isolate it, that goes a long way towards cracking it.

It helps when you think of these things in 3-D, not 2-D. Or heaven forbid, 1-D.
83 posted on 08/30/2006 7:53:24 PM PDT by HitmanLV ("If at first you don't succeed, keep on sucking until you do succeed." - Jerry 'Curly' Howard)
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To: truthkeeper

That what I thought too and doesn't some special elite colleges give disadvantage kids extra points?


84 posted on 08/30/2006 7:54:26 PM PDT by razorback-bert
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To: HitmanLV

That's true.


85 posted on 08/30/2006 7:55:37 PM PDT by Victoria Delsoul
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To: Andy from Beaverton

What's even more telling is that the 1995 SAT Score chart only goes up to 1100. Why did they not include the full range? Perhaps a little problem with the bell curve?


86 posted on 08/30/2006 8:03:06 PM PDT by Domestic Church (AMDG...)
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To: HitmanLV
Every test just measures what is being tested. Any test with a consistent methodology can be prepped for. If a test has a notable bias, that's a good thing: train to handle the bias. If you can isolate it, that goes a long way towards cracking it.

Bump.

87 posted on 08/30/2006 9:06:19 PM PDT by NoCurrentFreeperByThatName
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To: NoCurrentFreeperByThatName

Just the damn truth! And "I am not a number! I am a free man!" ;-)


88 posted on 08/30/2006 9:09:56 PM PDT by HitmanLV ("If at first you don't succeed, keep on sucking until you do succeed." - Jerry 'Curly' Howard)
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To: Perdogg

You're absolutly correct. I took the SAT's in the late 60's, combined score somewhere around 700. Now I have two Master's Degrees. The SAT measures your ability to take tests, the ASVAB measures your ability to learn something.


89 posted on 08/30/2006 9:39:54 PM PDT by ops33 (Retired USAF Senior Master Sergeant)
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To: COUNTrecount

The SAT (on the 1600 scale) was recentered about 10 years ago. So anyone who familiarized themselves with the 1600 score in the last 10 years (before the move to the higher score) should add about 100 points to any score reported on that scale from before. So Bush would be 1306. 1500+ would be 1600, etc.


90 posted on 08/31/2006 2:49:32 PM PDT by College Repub (Windex, apply directly to the windows. Butter, apply directly to the toast. KY Jelly, apply...)
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To: GSlob
One would think that the bright parents [those with graduate degrees, especially the Asians with their cultural premium on learning] would get their progeny into 1450-1600 SAT range

Isn't intelligence mostly inherited from the woman's side? Maybe those doctors need to stop spawning with trophy wives and get themselves some smart women. For the good of the country.

91 posted on 09/01/2006 2:54:18 PM PDT by ReagansShinyHair
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To: ReagansShinyHair
Well, I've read that the IQ [or rather Spearman's g] is about 70-80% heritable, but I do not remember reading anything re which side it is mostly inherited from. Hopefully in a few decades it will be found out - which genes, and when, and how.
92 posted on 09/01/2006 3:26:14 PM PDT by GSlob
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To: GSlob

Here's a link:
http://www.flatrock.org.nz/topics/men/thank_mom_for_brains.htm

I guess you never know when "researchers" will discover that they were mistaken, though.


93 posted on 09/01/2006 5:38:33 PM PDT by ReagansShinyHair
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