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SAT Scores See Biggest Decline Since 1975
Wall Street Journal ^
| 30 August 2006
| ROBERT TOMSHO
Posted on 08/30/2006 2:42:34 PM PDT by shrinkermd
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To: RKV
You do know, Bill Shockley got in trouble for saying as much (and more).
To: Victoria Delsoul
Yep - a lot of folks have an extraordinary amount emotionally invested in a number. Whether its SAT score, a GPA, an LSAT score, an entry-level salary, whatever.
A lot of people find it difficult to cope with the concept that the smartest people aren't the most successful in life: career, financial, relationships, many things.
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08/30/2006 7:49:29 PM PDT
by
HitmanLV
("If at first you don't succeed, keep on sucking until you do succeed." - Jerry 'Curly' Howard)
To: Lancey Howard
I didn't suggest the data wasn't reliable, I just said some conclusions could be more dubious than others, and offered some other conclusions.
It's reasonable to conclude from that graph, for example, that asians and whites spend more time, money, and resources to preparing for the exams rather than hispanics or blacks.
Every test just measures what is being tested. Any test with a consistent methodology can be prepped for. If a test has a notable bias, that's a good thing: train to handle the bias. If you can isolate it, that goes a long way towards cracking it.
It helps when you think of these things in 3-D, not 2-D. Or heaven forbid, 1-D.
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posted on
08/30/2006 7:53:24 PM PDT
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HitmanLV
("If at first you don't succeed, keep on sucking until you do succeed." - Jerry 'Curly' Howard)
To: truthkeeper
That what I thought too and doesn't some special elite colleges give disadvantage kids extra points?
To: HitmanLV
To: Andy from Beaverton
What's even more telling is that the 1995 SAT Score chart only goes up to 1100. Why did they not include the full range? Perhaps a little problem with the bell curve?
To: HitmanLV
Every test just measures what is being tested. Any test with a consistent methodology can be prepped for. If a test has a notable bias, that's a good thing: train to handle the bias. If you can isolate it, that goes a long way towards cracking it.Bump.
To: NoCurrentFreeperByThatName
Just the damn truth! And "I am not a number! I am a free man!" ;-)
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posted on
08/30/2006 9:09:56 PM PDT
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HitmanLV
("If at first you don't succeed, keep on sucking until you do succeed." - Jerry 'Curly' Howard)
To: Perdogg
You're absolutly correct. I took the SAT's in the late 60's, combined score somewhere around 700. Now I have two Master's Degrees. The SAT measures your ability to take tests, the ASVAB measures your ability to learn something.
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posted on
08/30/2006 9:39:54 PM PDT
by
ops33
(Retired USAF Senior Master Sergeant)
To: COUNTrecount
The SAT (on the 1600 scale) was recentered about 10 years ago. So anyone who familiarized themselves with the 1600 score in the last 10 years (before the move to the higher score) should add about 100 points to any score reported on that scale from before. So Bush would be 1306. 1500+ would be 1600, etc.
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posted on
08/31/2006 2:49:32 PM PDT
by
College Repub
(Windex, apply directly to the windows. Butter, apply directly to the toast. KY Jelly, apply...)
To: GSlob
One would think that the bright parents [those with graduate degrees, especially the Asians with their cultural premium on learning] would get their progeny into 1450-1600 SAT rangeIsn't intelligence mostly inherited from the woman's side? Maybe those doctors need to stop spawning with trophy wives and get themselves some smart women. For the good of the country.
To: ReagansShinyHair
Well, I've read that the IQ [or rather Spearman's g] is about 70-80% heritable, but I do not remember reading anything re which side it is mostly inherited from. Hopefully in a few decades it will be found out - which genes, and when, and how.
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09/01/2006 3:26:14 PM PDT
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GSlob
To: GSlob
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