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Noah's Ark Discovered ... Again and Again
Skeptical Inquirer ^ | 9-5-06 | Benjamin Radford

Posted on 09/05/2006 10:47:39 AM PDT by Central Scrutiniser

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To: massgopguy

You're free to believe Gilgamesh over Scripture. Of course, there's a lot more evidence for the veracity of Scripture than Gilgamesh....


141 posted on 09/05/2006 1:57:12 PM PDT by Theo (Global warming "scientists." Pro-evolution "scientists." They're both wrong.)
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To: Central Scrutiniser

"Are you afraid to admit you have no proof?"

CS, seems to me that there some realities in which people cannot provide proof of. The ancient story of the (or an) Ark has been handed down in different parts of the world....certainly this lends credence to it's existence....wouldn't you agree?

I'd also like your thoughts on my previous questions....

Scott


142 posted on 09/05/2006 1:58:09 PM PDT by scottdeus12 (Jesus is real, whether you believe in Him or not.)
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To: Central Scrutiniser

Are you afraid to admit that you're a man of faith?


143 posted on 09/05/2006 1:58:58 PM PDT by Oberon (What does it take to make government shrink?)
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To: Doctor Stochastic
With the number of True Arks found, one must assume that Noah's Flotilla would be a better name.

Noah's Flotilla? Is that the one with Edward James Olmos and Mary McDonnell? Now there's some rather awful writing!

144 posted on 09/05/2006 2:00:33 PM PDT by balrog666 (Ignorance is never better than knowledge. - Enrico Fermi)
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To: Central Scrutiniser

CS....safe to assume that you won't answer or reply to my questions?


145 posted on 09/05/2006 2:10:58 PM PDT by scottdeus12 (Jesus is real, whether you believe in Him or not.)
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To: dmz
Got my solidly historical accounts confused, sorry!
146 posted on 09/05/2006 2:24:19 PM PDT by VadeRetro (Liberalism is a cancer on society. Creationism is a cancer on conservatism.)
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To: balrog666

I didn't see that one. Maybe one with Nelson Eddy and Jeannette MacDonald?


147 posted on 09/05/2006 2:27:24 PM PDT by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch ist der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: scottdeus12

Your questions are not germaine to the point. Life did exist thousands of years ago, certainly before the 5000 year limit that the literalists say. There is ample proof in the fossil record and with a number of accurate dating processes to back that up.

As for the coding of DNA, it changes as the animals evolved. What you are asking me is who or what created the universe? I don't know, even the most trained cosmologist cannot prove that.

As for not answering your questions, I just spent a few hours on phone with a client and followup time working, so I wasn't snubbing you.


148 posted on 09/05/2006 2:32:04 PM PDT by Central Scrutiniser (I was in the house when the house burnt down.)
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To: Oberon
What use logic in the face of dogma?

Whenever someone childishly clings to the quaint, atavistic nonsense of a bunch of bronze-age goatherders, I wonder the same thing.

149 posted on 09/05/2006 2:41:28 PM PDT by RogueIsland (.)
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To: Central Scrutiniser

"Your questions are not germaine to the point. Life did exist thousands of years ago, certainly before the 5000 year limit that the literalists say. There is ample proof in the fossil record and with a number of accurate dating processes to back that up."

Fair enough.

"As for the coding of DNA, it changes as the animals evolved. What you are asking me is who or what created the universe? I don't know, even the most trained cosmologist cannot prove that."

Your answer by definition denotes a creator ("....who or what created the universe"). You would agree then that there was some intelligent being that brought the universe into existence?

Scott


150 posted on 09/05/2006 2:41:54 PM PDT by scottdeus12 (Jesus is real, whether you believe in Him or not.)
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To: scottdeus12

I believe in god and a creator, but I also want to know the process of how it started. That would prove the existance of a supreme being.


151 posted on 09/05/2006 2:43:41 PM PDT by Central Scrutiniser (I was in the house when the house burnt down.)
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To: Central Scrutiniser

There is no ark, it was just a story used to teach people.
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This NONfactoid being 'proved' by assumption built upon assumption built upon assumption built upon narro, rigid bias built upon assumption . . . .

Since it is highly unlikely that the author has searched every possible mountain peak involved remotely thoroughly.


152 posted on 09/05/2006 2:47:31 PM PDT by Quix (LET GOD ARISE AND HIS ENEMIES BE SCATTERED. LET ISRAEL CALL ON GOD AS THEIRS! & ISLAM FLUSH ITSELF)
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To: scottdeus12
So life did not exist thousands of years ago.....

Just exactly how many thousands of years ago are we talking about here?

[Will not ask "Were you there?" Will not... Will not...]

153 posted on 09/05/2006 2:48:44 PM PDT by VadeRetro (Liberalism is a cancer on society. Creationism is a cancer on conservatism.)
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To: Blueflag

If you are gonna be a skeptical critic, at least be an accurate one. ;-p
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Now you KNOW that's NOT the custom, habit, practice! LOL.

Accuracy has nothing to do with it. It's an issue of loud, vain pontifications. And the more repeated, the better.


154 posted on 09/05/2006 2:48:50 PM PDT by Quix (LET GOD ARISE AND HIS ENEMIES BE SCATTERED. LET ISRAEL CALL ON GOD AS THEIRS! & ISLAM FLUSH ITSELF)
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To: Central Scrutiniser

Would I then be out of bounds to then say that God (a Creator), cannot be measured by Human (scientific) standards.

Take my previous reference to DNA ....how could anyone (or anything) that created such a rich, complex system such as our DNA coding be scientifically measured?


155 posted on 09/05/2006 2:50:25 PM PDT by scottdeus12 (Jesus is real, whether you believe in Him or not.)
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To: VadeRetro

"Just exactly how many thousands of years ago are we talking about here?"

I just meant was there life before humans could scientifically record it.


156 posted on 09/05/2006 2:53:26 PM PDT by scottdeus12 (Jesus is real, whether you believe in Him or not.)
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To: MineralMan
"For me, it will always be the Sports Car Club of America. I use to race a 1959 Sprite in their local races in Santa Barbara. They were held at the airport there....a long, long time ago."

I still race a 1975 RX-3... :)

157 posted on 09/05/2006 3:03:56 PM PDT by Coffee_drinker (The best defense is a strong preemptive strike..)
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To: scottdeus12

You wouldn't be out of bounds, but, surely you can't have that attitude to all life sciences and biology. You can't attribute to a mystery Creator that which you don't understand, and not do further investigation.

As for DNA, we have been uncoding it for years, we can measure it, and, hopefully, armed with what we know, we will be able to fight disease through DNA "re-coding". Just because something is complex, that isn't a reason not to study it.


158 posted on 09/05/2006 3:13:48 PM PDT by Central Scrutiniser (I was in the house when the house burnt down.)
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To: Quix

Using your logic, we haven't searched every square inch of the North Pole so we can't disprove the existence of Santa Claus.


159 posted on 09/05/2006 3:22:07 PM PDT by Central Scrutiniser (I was in the house when the house burnt down.)
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To: Central Scrutiniser

Oh, I think the pole has been more than adequately photographed.

But the habit of assumptions re such as the Ark get to be . . . sad and annoying. Especially when hiding under the pretext of scientific logic which isn't remotely involved in the assumptions.


160 posted on 09/05/2006 3:23:49 PM PDT by Quix (LET GOD ARISE AND HIS ENEMIES BE SCATTERED. LET ISRAEL CALL ON GOD AS THEIRS! & ISLAM FLUSH ITSELF)
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