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To: azhenfud; Colonel Kangaroo
The South did not attempt secession because they feared a strong central government.

They did so because the Republicans ran on the platform of limiting the growth of slavery.

This is what they saw as a threat to their 'rights'.

They did not think each state had a right to govern its own people when they demanded that Northern States return runaway slaves and used the Federal gov't to enforce that law.

This nation was either going to be either all free or all slave.

The Confederate flag represents the side that wanted it all slave.

But this thread is on school clothing not the Confederate flag.

I agree with the Col. and another poster that a dress code should be put in place either uniforms or high standard clothing (like one would wear to church or work)

18 posted on 10/10/2006 6:03:25 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Am I therefore become your enemy because I tell you the truth? (Gal.4:16))
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To: fortheDeclaration
They did not think each state had a right to govern its own people when they demanded that Northern States return runaway slaves and used the Federal gov't to enforce that law.

Your own reply is inconsistent within itself. The south believed that each state DID have the right to govern itself. They allowed slavery. The slaves were considered property. They wanted their property returned.

That's un-PC, but the fact is, they had a case. The northerners who aided and harbored runaway slaves, according to the legal system of the slave states, were holding stolen property.

21 posted on 10/10/2006 6:12:04 AM PDT by MortMan (I was going to be indecisive, but I changed my mind.)
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To: fortheDeclaration

What you wrote is a joke, right?

Because if you are serious, you are either a prevaricator or really, really ignorant.


23 posted on 10/10/2006 6:14:38 AM PDT by Al Gator (Refusing to "stoop to your enemy's level", gets you cut off at the knees.)
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To: fortheDeclaration; Colonel Kangaroo
"The South did not attempt secession because they feared a strong central government."

The good Colonel did not mention secession, he stated Southerners were lukewarm in their support of the Confederacy of the Southern states or were outright Unionists, to which I countered.

His assertion was not quite correct.

25 posted on 10/10/2006 6:31:34 AM PDT by azhenfud (an enigma between two parentheses)
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To: fortheDeclaration
"The South did not attempt secession because they feared a strong central government."

They (South Carolina), followed by others, seceded due to the promises of the 1860 Republican platform that would stress the Southern culture and its economy. Infrastructure expenditures and taxation were about to be unequally applied to the sections. The Constitutional protections were being eliminated due to election reapportionment. They saw no remedy except for separation. But separation did not bring war.

"They did so because the Republicans ran on the platform of limiting the growth of slavery."

That was one issue. Another was the transcontinental railroad that was to be built with public funds. Its route would aid the growth of the Northern states over the Southern states, funded with the tariffs generated with the overseas sales of Southern products.

Another issue was the Morill tariff, designed to fund these projects. This would reduce the buying power of Southern products, and inflate the prices of Northern products sold South.

"This is what they saw as a threat to their 'rights'."

Actually, their "rights" were guaranteed by the American Constitution. The threat came from the Republicans, and the army they inherited.

"They did not think each state had a right to govern its own people when they demanded that Northern States return runaway slaves and used the Federal gov't to enforce that law."

The 'they' you refer to were Federal judges. And they enforced Federal law.

"This nation was either going to be either all free or all slave."

Lincoln said that before he was elected, but reneged on that in April of 1861.

"The Confederate flag represents the side that wanted it all slave."

The Confederate Flag represented the flag of the Confederate states and its Constitution of dozens of guaranteed rights. To select one and negatively label those people is absurd, ignorant, and naive.

"But this thread is on school clothing not the Confederate flag."

You brought it up to expound your abusive history lesson. Keep it to yourself.
26 posted on 10/10/2006 6:43:46 AM PDT by PeaRidge
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To: fortheDeclaration

And we are off to the races...


65 posted on 10/10/2006 8:49:37 AM PDT by carton253 (He who would kill you, get up early and kill him first.)
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To: fortheDeclaration
I agree with the Col. and another poster that a dress code should be put in place either uniforms or high standard clothing (like one would wear to church or work)

You obviously haven't been to church or to work lately.

86 posted on 10/10/2006 10:10:58 AM PDT by HIDEK6
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