Mel Gibson Did It Again!

foxnews ^ | Thursday , October 19, 2006 | Father Jonathan Morris

[flixxx]

Never before had I made an intercontinental flight to see a movie. But that's what I did this month when I accepted Mel Gibson's invitation to preview and critique his new film “Apocalypto,” scheduled to appear in theaters on December 8th.

I didn't make the trek across the ocean for entertainment value. My work as a consultant on and off the set of Gibson's “Passion of the Christ,” gave me a new appreciation of the power of well-made, serious, and widely-distributed movies. They influence culture. They affect the way we think about the story they tell. Sometimes they warp our view of history or of humanity. Other times they inform, inspire, and challenge. But they always leave a mark.

[Wormwood]

Actually, I really do like Mel Gibson and his work.

I respect the man enough to accept the PUBLIC APOLOGY he gave for his statements.

[familyop]

"Who wrote it? Who released it? Was it legal for them to do that? If they broke the law in releasing it, what value does it have? If they released it without approval then they broke a much bigger law than Gibson is alleged to have broken, so who will you believe? Who will a jury believe?"

"Those really are simple questions."

Yes, those are really simple questions. No one has challenged the authenticity or handwriting on the report, as far as I know. I've worked where issuing copies of police reports was legal and even compulsory (so people could get them before the mafia messed with them, for one).

Again, as stated earlier, I'm not an attorney...

"four pages of the original report prepared by the arresting officer in the case" (TMZ)
http://cdn.digitalcity.com/tmz_documents/gibson_wm_docs_072806.pdf

[familyop]

"Now I'm beginning to question what the agenda is of those who are so invested in proving that Mel Gibson is "the son of Satan." Might there be a Moby in the mix? Maybe a Pelosi warrior? It's clear that some in the DBM are serving that agenda. Are folks here? What is the motive of those who are so anxious to trash someone without verifiable proof? Could it be political? Could it be associated with trying to trash the Christian voters, particularly those associated with embracing Mel Gibson's movie The Passion of the Christ? Particularly in the two and one half weeks before the election? Enguiring minds want to know. What, pray tell, is your motivation here?

Is that you, Moby?"

LOL! [Note to myself to avoid hiring this person to represent me.]

[Wormwood]

Provide something, anything, that can be taken into a court of law. What is so difficult about that concept? Or don't you believe in the rule of law?

ps. The irony of seeing this statement on Free Republic (a website which was essentially founded on the murder of Vince Foster and the rape of Juanita Brodrick) to be absolutely delicious.

[familyop]

"Are you that stupid? . . . If so you are a complete moron."

Are you a lawyer east of Wyoming or on the west coast? If so, I've seen where you're coming from and why you're making arguments like that.

[Polybius]

How could this movie not portray the Spanish invaders darkly?

Because it takes place before 1492.

[Phsstpok]

Since Mel Gibson made it a point to apologize for saying it, he likely said it, wouldn't you think? Why apologize for something you DIDN'T say?

Here you go, here's the full text of what Mel Gibson has said about this.

Mel Gibson's apology: full text
Statement released by Mel Gibson on August 1 over his tirade during drink-driving arrest

"There is no excuse, nor should there be any tolerance, for anyone who thinks or expresses any kind of anti-Semitic remark. I want to apologise specifically to everyone in the Jewish community for the vitriolic and harmful words that I said to a law enforcement officer the night I was arrested on a DUI charge.

"I am a public person, and when I say something, either articulated and thought out, or blurted out in a moment of insanity, my words carry weight in the public arena. As a result, I must assume personal responsibility for my words and apologise directly to those who have been hurt and offended by those words.

"The tenets of what I profess to believe necessitate that I exercise charity and tolerance as a way of life. Every human being is God’s child, and if I wish to honour my God I have to honour his children. But please know from my heart that I am not an anti-Semite. I am not a bigot. Hatred of any kind goes against my faith.

"I’m not just asking for forgiveness. I would like to take it one step further, and meet with leaders in the Jewish community, with whom I can have a one-on-one discussion to discern the appropriate path for healing.

"I have begun an ongoing program of recovery and what I am now realising is that I cannot do it alone. I am in the process of understanding where those vicious words came from during that drunken display, and I am asking the Jewish community, whom I have personally offended, to help me on my journey through recovery.

"Again, I am reaching out to the Jewish community for its help. I know there will be many in that community who will want nothing to do with me, and that would be understandable. But I pray that that door is not forever closed.

"This is not about a film. Nor is it about artistic license. This is about real life and recognising the consequences hurtful words can have. It’s about existing in harmony in a world that seems to have gone mad.

So, where did he admit to saying "Jews are to blame" ?  That's what this is about, after all.

Do you want to take this to a court of law?  Based on the available evidence, you'll lose.  Big time.  If you don't know that then you are really, really naive.

Again, I'm not talking about "did he or didn't he."  I want to know what is really provable or actionable in a court.  Anything else is almost certainly politically/religiously motivated and is part of an agenda, and for 90% of those pushing that agenda it is as a service to the Jihadis.  After all, Mel Gibson made that hugely successful movie about Jesus, therefore he must be destroyed!  Personally I think this has been blown way out of proportion by those who have an agenda far removed from truth or honor.  I am 100% unwilling to accept ignorant "I heard " or "I read" kinds of posts.  So far that's all I'm getting. That and a very limited number of links to totally BS rumor or "secret info" sites.  If he's guilty I want to know what he's guilty of and I want to see the evidence because it is absolutely without question (references upon request, though I doubt anyone has the guts to ask) that most of the crap so far is motivated by folks motivated by someone other than God.

 

[Phsstpok]

Are you a lawyer east of Wyoming or on the west coast? If so, I've seen where you're coming from and why you're making arguments like that.

Wow, that is close to the most incoherent, most valueless and dumbest statement I've ever seen on FR.

And the reference to "Wyoming or on the west coast" couldn't be a more evident tag for a raving  Dhimmicrat plant if I've ever seen one.

Moby, is that you?

What a clintonoid bigot!

All of the BS is dropped in this post.

Alert, anyone who has ever been involved in a post with familyop should carefully check what was said to them or what they said.  Clearly it is part of the MoveOn.ORG opposition research DB.

How's that for a response to a mindless hate filled post by you?

[ErnBatavia]

Tell ya what. Let's all get stinkin' drunk, hit the road, get arrested by the police, and tape record what we say to them....

Tell ya what...I've been drunk on occasion, but never ever close to blathering what Gibson did - his soul was exposed. Screw 'im.

[Phsstpok]

The irony of seeing this statement on Free Republic (a website which was essentially founded on the murder of Vince Foster and the rape of Juanita Brodrick) to be absolutely delicious.

I have one word for you. (notice what is in the bold text)

It will probably be pulled by the admin mods, but so be it.

Based on that post you are an obvious Troll.  More than that, for having posted that, you are really, really, dumb!

[familyop]

"Why do I suspect that even this will fail to make an impression on certain posters?"

...because it involves a celebrity and his fringe religious sect, I suppose.

"The fact that Gibson hasn't hauled TMZ (and/or the police officers in question) into court on libel/defamation seems much more relevent than the hysterical denials on this thread."

Yep. ...seems that it would be difficult for him to do that after admitting guilt, too. But moments of honesty do help in more important ways.

Jews in Hollywood give Gibson the silent treatment

By Andy Goldberg Aug 3, 2006, 2:47 GMT
Deutsche Presse-Agentur by way of Monsters and Critics

"'I hate what he said, and so does he,' said Jeff Berg chairman of International Creative Management which manages Gibson's career. 'We're not going to back away from him in a moment of need. Our goal is to help him, not judge him.'"

[Jean S]

The Juanita Broaddrick story didn't break until November 1998. Free Republic had exsisted years before that. You don't know what the heck you're talking about.

[unspun]

Tell ya what...I've been drunk on occasion, but never ever close to blathering what Gibson did - his soul was exposed. Screw 'im.

Yes, you and Mel are so similar that when you each get drunk, you are both either very tight lipped, or, on ocassion, you amazingly reveal the honesty of your innermost beings.

Why, it's a wonder that preachers don't get drunk before sermons, so they can reveal more fully what is in their hearts.

Or, just before that heart-to-heart talk with your children before things like college decisions, getting married, etc., get drunk, so you can make sure you express the truth otherwise hindered in your soul.

[Jean S]

Sorry, I was wrong. It was even later than Nov. '98.

In November 1998, Juanita Broaddrick gave an interview to Dateline NBC. The interview, broadcast in February 1999, centered around Broaddrick's accusation that Bill Clinton had raped her on April 25, 1978 during his first campaign for the governorship of Arkansas.

[Wormwood]

Calm down.

My point was Freepers (myself included) have PROVEN ourselves able to draw conslusions based on slimmer evidence than that piled against Gibson.

That's because the court of public opinion doesn't have the same evidentiary requirements as a court of law.

[unspun]

Paraphrased: "Jews are responsible for all wars on Earth."

Wow, it's a wonder that an otherwise sensible man, who testifies of belief in Christ, really and truly thinks, even though when he is sober, he becomes sensible again.

Huh.

[unspun]

In November 1998, Juanita Broaddrick gave an interview to Dateline NBC. The interview, broadcast in February 1999, centered around Broaddrick's accusation that Bill Clinton had raped her on April 25, 1978 during his first campaign for the governorship of Arkansas.

And BTW, it's too bad she wasn't drunk at the time.

Apparently so many of us Americans would have so much more grounds to believe she was telling what was truly in her heart at the time... ;-)

[Jean S]

Calm down? I'm very calm, I was just calling you on your misprpresentation of the original purpose of Free Republic.

ps. The irony of seeing this statement on Free Republic (a website which was essentially founded on the murder of Vince Foster and the rape of Juanita Brodrick) to be absolutely delicious.

[Uriah_lost]

I see an unintended parallel.....how many unborn children were "sacrificed" to the blood thirsty god of "self" this year?
God has spoken through an ass before. Nothing new here.

[familyop]

Phsstpok wrote:
"are you that dumb?"

Phsstpok wrote:
"Might there be a Moby in the mix?"

Phsstpok wrote:
"Maybe a Pelosi warrior?"

Phsstpok wrote:
"It's clear that some in the DBM are serving that agenda. Are folks here?" [DBM?]

Phsstpok wrote:
"trying to trash the Christian voters"

Phsstpok wrote:
"Is that you, Moby?"

Phsstpok wrote:
"Are you that stupid?"

Phsstpok wrote:
"...you are a complete moron."

Phsstpok wrote:
"...where you bugger the Queen of England"

Phsstpok wrote:
"...I'm involved with Al Gores chromosome deficient morons."

Phsstpok wrote:
"...a raving Dhimmicrat plant if I've ever seen one."

Phsstpok wrote:
"Moby, is that you?"

Phsstpok wrote:
"What a clintonoid bigot!"

Phsstpok wrote:
"Alert, anyone who has ever been involved in a post with familyop should carefully check what was said to them or what they said. Clearly it is part of the MoveOn.ORG opposition research DB."

Phsstpok wrote:
"...you are an obvious Troll. More than that, for having posted that, you are really, really, dumb!"

So, Wormwood, what do you think of celebrity threads? I'm going back to sharing defense information stuff with my fellow "neo-cons." We're plotting and scheming to influence a regime change in Iran to steal attention away from Mel, you know.