How Ted Haggard delivered control to the Democrats

WorldNetDaily.com ^ | 11/11/06 | By Charles McVety

[PAR35]

Many of those evangelicals are part of the Pysbertarian church, which has a track record of being ultra liberal.

And that is called "bearing false witness". Find a liberal Presbyterian body on this list: http://www.nae.net/index.cfm?FUSEACTION=nae.members

[HiTech RedNeck]

I guess you want this place to be Donk City.

[Lucius Cornelius Sulla]

So is it purely a matter of being part of this organization, or does it denote all non-high church Protestants, or is there some specific theological or liturgical definition. I am confused!!

Oh well, as was said above, let us pray on it, and fight the good fight against the leftists.

[HisKingdomWillAbolishSinDeath]

2 Thessalonians 2
1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,
2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

[unspun]

Maybe Christans should start the Do-Over Denomination?

[fieldmarshaldj]

So you'd prefer a 2/3rds Lib rodent Congress and legislatures and ineffective lib RINO opposition ? I think you're on the wrong website, friend.

[lawdude]

What a stupid concept. Conjured up by a complete idiot!

[James Ewell Brown Stuart]

I am an evangelical Christian, and I have never heard of this man until he made the headlines.

[bonfire]

What is a true Evangelical? I guess I'm not really sure either.

[James Ewell Brown Stuart]

Then I will have to redo my post. I am a fundamentalist and not a evangelical. At least I know who I am now. (Not that I'm that confused. I'm a Christian. I think that sums it up pretty darn tight. As for the rest, details that I don't concern myself with.)

[GiovannaNicoletta]

Good article, thanks for posting, but I think what happened with Haggard is that God exposed him and brought him down just like God brought down Baker and Swaggart. I knew about Haggard when I voted and I voted straight Repubican.

The fact is, God will not allow His holy name to be dragged through the mud and God will not allow a man who has access to thousands of souls to use Him to try to implement an agenda that is against His commandments and principles. That's what I belive happened with Haggard.

[tkathy]

When are all religions going to free themselves up from crazy men on power guilt fear and control trips.

[sbMKE]

I concur with the Google/Youtube assessment -- college turnout was significant here in Wisconsin. And college kids couldn't care less about Foley and the MSM scandals.

http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=528978

[Lucius Cornelius Sulla]

When are all religions going to free themselves up from crazy men on power guilt fear and control trips.

A long time ago I heard of the 'The Committee to Repeal Original Sin'. Unfortunately its work is not yet completed! This is true for religious folks and non-religious folks.

[M. Espinola]

The timing of Haggard public meltdown was uncannily 'perfect' for the radical Dems victory election sweep.

[tkathy]

Very true.

[fortheDeclaration]

As a Baptist I never heard of Haggard.

However, from seeing his picture, I am surprised that he could fool so many people.

I am sure many of these mega-church organizations are headed by homosexuals.

Most seem to all have an effeminate aspect about them

[PAR35]

There are big E and little e evangelicals. (Sort of like a big C Catholic always means Roman Catholic, while a small c catholic usage can get you into a flame war if you aren't careful.)

The NAE is evangelical in the small e sense - what you would probably consider conservative 'born again' protestant, but there are many small e evangelicals who aren't part of the NAE.

Small e evangelicals would also include conservative members of the mainline protestant denominations who still adhere to traditional Christian beliefs.

Big E evangelicals are generally distinguished from the Reformed (Lutheran and Calvinist) traditions. Generally, they will follow a dispensational 'Left Behind' theology.

I'll use my church as a specific example. The church membership is broadly evangelical. You have to be a professing Christian to join. The officers, on the other hand, have to subscribe to the historical Reformed standards, so I would not classify the church as a big "E" Evangelical body (although it is associated with the NAE.

To try to answer your question more directly, evangelical (small e) can be used to denote any protestant (even high church in its broadest sense), can be used as shorthand for 'conservative protestant' (whatever that may mean), it can mean non- high church protestant, non - mainline protestant, or it can mean non -reformed protestant. With so many possible meanings, I can see why you could be confused.

It can also be used as part of a name of a church body, such as Evangelical Lutheran (a fairly liberal mainline body) or Evangelical Presbyterian (a moderate group that probably wouldn't fall into an Evangelical (big E) grouping.)

[sirchtruth]

If evangelicals left the party, we would win.

Kooks.

McPainintheass, is that you?

[Lucius Cornelius Sulla]

Thanks for the information, but I am still a little confused. Things are much simpler for us RC's!