Sunday Morning Talk Show Thread 12 November 2006

Various big media television networks ^ | 12 November 2006 | Various Self-Serving Politicians and Big Media Screaming Faces

[Alas Babylon!]

The Talk Shows

Sunday, November 12th, 2006

Guests to be interviewed today on major television talk shows:

FOX NEWS SUNDAY (Fox Network): Democratic National Committee chairman Howard Dean; presidential counselor Dan Bartlett.

MEET THE PRESS (NBC): Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., and Sen. Joe Lieberman, D-Conn.

FACE THE NATION (CBS): Sen. Harry Reid, D-Nev.; White House chief of staff Josh Bolten.

THIS WEEK (ABC): Sens. Joe Biden. D-Del., and Carl Levin, D-Mich.; Bolten.

LATE EDITION (CNN) : Bolten; Pakistani Prime Minister Shaukat Aziz; Sen. Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y.

[chiller]

How best to call the media on it, AB? We must put their names in lights. And it should go in the headlines, otherwise we'll have a billion vanity posts, correct? How about Meet the Press Bias
or Russert lies

Several websites make a living off of this; Media Reasearch Center, and their off-shoot NewsBusters, and Olbywatch, etc.

As a starter idea, perhaps we append the legitimate searchable news story and headline;
Rove questioned about Plame
with
Rove questioned about Plame (Russert lies)

An example such as this one, finds "Russert lies" in a google search, does it not?

[rodguy911]

I am hoping we get a zillion reasons why we lost today, if we do it won't happen again.
We already have quite a few.

[Fishtalk]

With all due respect....

I am not going to point my fingers at the drive-by media for this most recent wipe out of Republicans across the board. I WILL allow that they have a bias and it's evident.

But just last week mighty Rush Limbaugh himself admitted he'd been carrying the water for lackluster Republicans. They have a bias, obviously, and with the Lamestream it's generally liberal. What's the bigger crime is the lie they've foisted on us that they are "impartial" and above the fray. Rush Limbaugh is biased and we know it.

Not that there's anything wrong with that. I say let the biases be known up front and let the reader/listener/watcher decide. If you're saying we should keep catching them on their bias instead of the impartiality they claim to own, I agree completely.

That being said, I have given a great amount of thought to last Tuesday's rout, as I daresay most of us have.

I was a voter who expressed her disdain and disillusionment for the Republican party last Tuesday although my modest protest affected exactly no one. Still I will count myself amongst the great unwashed in that we had a pubbie candidate for Senator here in the swamps of Delaware but I did not vote for him. Instead I voted for a write-in candidate, a lovely Christian woman who'd initially sought the pub nomination but was smacked down by the Delaware Republican party which so resembles Joe Biden's party here in the First state.

Understand that I knew that Tom Carper was going to win as Senator, hands down. His nominated pub opponent, one Jan Ting, was lackluster, uninspiring and he refused to take a stand on abortion. So I wrote in the name of his independent opponent just because I wanted to send a message to Delaware's pub party.

Thus counting myself as one of the Repub disaffected, let me state why. Like Rush and Laura et al have been saying all last week, these Repubs have failed to endorse conservative values and I'm tired of it.

They've gerrymandered themselves into power and they've learned via that entrenched power to deal with the Democrats in so many ways directly opposite to conservative ideals.

In the past two years I've seen Denny Hastert stand with William Jefferson, D-Louisiana in front of my lying eyeballs. I've seen free speech frittered away in the guise of campaign speech that the gerrymandered not risk their seat for citizen rhetoric.

I've watched a major prescription medicare plan passed that no one really likes and I've watched Ted Kennedy smile as he enjoyed the fame of helping pass even more MAJOR federal intrusion into education.

I've learned that Foley was a homosexual who used the Congressional Page pool as his own male partner fishing hole and now I learn that the head of the RNC is also a homosexual. Which I wouldn't have a problem with except I have some major concerns about family values and at the very least I think some truth is deemed here.

I've watched the pubbies sit back and let the screaming hyenas blame the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT for Katrinia failures and not one dared to state firmly that America is a country of rugged individuals who should FIRST depend on themselves.

Not once did a major pubbie dispute the Lamestream mantra that Saddam had no weapons of mass destruction and this became a truth simply because the pubs allowed it to be said so often that it became the truth.

I've watched that herd of Republican cats in the Senate look out for their own fine selves in the form of John McCain and others who formed a unit to fight against Conservative judges when THIS was a major concern of conservatives accross the country.

I've seen NO action taken to privatize at least a portion of Social Security even though these guys HAD the majority but hey, they wanted that AARP vote and their own re-election took precidence over my silly concerns.

They frittered away their leadership for their own personal gain and THAT is why I felt so disenfranchised that I wrote in a candidate this past election day rather than vote for yet another mealy-mouthed Republican that they chose for me.

I've got plenty more. I'm not done yet.

[Coldwater Creek]

FAILURE has been the operative word for the Dems for quite some time.

If the WOT was a failure, then the terrorist would be dancing in the streets of the U.S.

But, then again those stupid dems in Minntesota elected the first Muslim to Congress!!

[Moonmad27]

The Clinton years: they invite Biden, Schumer and McCain on these shows.
The Bush years with Republicans in charge: they invite Biden, Schumer and McCain on these shows.
The Bush years with Dems in charge: they invite Biden, Schumer and McCain on these shows.

You'd think they want to talk to the people actually IN CHARGE instead of just their Dem friends, but the sentence in the middle above proves that wrong.

[patj]

Madrassa media

I like your term. Truer words were never spoken.

[Alas Babylon!]

One thing I'd like to point out is the cleverness of some of the DBM. When accused of bias, they have a lot of tricks up their sleeves to counter the charge. Brent Bozell of the Media Research Center has fought them for years, but they've been able to color him as a right-wing kook and he gets little press (Fox News uses him sometimes).

Do not confuse news analysis with straight reporting. One trick of the DBM is to say they're only offering their opinions which may be different than their reporting. Many shows we dislike, such as Chris Matthews' panels or Olbermann's screeds, are simply reporters giving their opinion of things, which, though almost always bizarrely leftist, are only opinion. Many on the Left hate Fox News (or what Fox News used to be) because of the conservative view expressed in the news analysis shows they have (which are their biggest draws). The O'Reilly Factor and Hannity & Colmes are news analysis programs and not straight news reporting.

So let's concentrate on straight up stories that are biased. And of course, The Sunday shows, when their questions are biased, wrong, misleading, or plainly lies, need our most carefull scrutiny!

[DanZ]

Shooting the Messenger , even one who spins the story their way- DBM is only a small part of the what should be done. In my opinion the reason the Republicans lost are many and have little to do with the DBM.

Tom Delay here in my area made a personal decision to get out too late. This decision lead to this Republican seat going to a Democrat. In two years this seat will revert to a Republican.

As a whole the Republicans, both in the Senate and in the House did very little to give many people a reason to vote for them. The expansion of government with new entitlements, no restraint on spending, Kennedy/Bush education reform, Feingold/McCain free speech limitation legislation is a short list of why many people did not show up to vote.

The bright spot was the Supreme Court nominations that we did get. And the Tex cuts in 2002/2003.

The Republicans will need to be on the offensive, they will need to give people a reason to vote for them. I am looking for the following

1. Lower Taxes
2. Smaller government

[DoctorMichael]

Sometimes I post interesting and topical C-Span@ stuff. Sometimes not. I DID see this stuff.

Four veterans of the war in Iraq War talk about their service in Iraq, what it was like to return home, and the books they have written about their experiences. They respond to telephone calls and electronic mail from viewers.

	Rieckhoff, Paul	Founder and Executive Director, Operation Truth
	King, R. Alan	Commander (Fmr.), Civil Affairs Battalion (Iraq)
	Olson, Kimberly	Colonel (Ret.), U.S. Air Force
	Danelo, David J.	Captain (Fmr.), U.S. Marine Corps

Former Lt. Paul Rieckhoff is the author of Chasing Ghosts: A Soldier's Fight for America from Baghdad to Washington, published by NAL. Lt. Col. R. Alan King is the author of Twice Armed: An American Soldier's Battle for Hearts and Minds in Iraq, published by Zenith Press. Col. Kim Olson (Ret.) is the author of Iraq and Back: Inside the War to Win the Peace, published by Naval Institute Press. Former Capt. David Danelo is the author of Blood Stripes: The Grunt's View of the War in Iraq, published by Stackpole Books.

12:00 PM EST 1:30 (est.) LIVE

Call-In Veterans Day Weekend Program on the War in Iraq C-SPAN, BookTV Paul Rieckhoff , Operation Truth R. Alan King , Civil Affairs Battalion (Iraq) The beginning and end of this live program may be earlier or later than the scheduled times.

02:00 PM EST 1:00 (est.) LIVE

Call-In Veterans Day Weekend Program on the War in Afghanistan C-SPAN, BookTV Sean Naylor , Army Times Steven Pressfield The beginning and end of this live program may be earlier or later than the scheduled times.

Bump for our Servicemen!

[rodguy911]

Great catch here Johnny7--bears repeating"

...what was once an overt bias in reporting...has mutated into a cover-operations/propaganda machine for the Democrat-Socialist Party.An alliance that embraces every enemy of America when a Republican resides in the White House

Sheer brilliance here john, great stuff.!!

[Chuck54]

Hear, hear.

[maica]

The Clinton product placement was a result of their supporters being in those fields - almost every media outlet except 'conservative' magazines that we can name because they are so few - is run and staffed by libs.

No conseevative will ever get that kind of endorsement.

I understand what you mean, though. Conservatives have to find some way to get the "product" in front of the non-political masses. Obviously talk radio is only speaking to us already, and major advertisers are afraid to be associated with us. Sean Hannity and GM being a huge exception.

I feel contempt for every Republican who did not support President Bush during this election. They demonstrated cowardice, and so voters agreed that it was not a good idea to support the Bush Doctrine and administration. We will never know what the results would have been with a united front, but it is quite possible that not as many seats would have gone over to the Dems.

[Miss Marple]

Quite true. Just like we never hear about William Jefferson's freezer cash.

I am also really, really tired of conservative pundits who spent two years trashing Bush and then about a month before the election (or in some cases a week) suddenly realize that the democrats might win and belatedly try to convince their readers/listeners that they should go to the polls.

And now they are trashing Bush for the Republican loss like they had nothing to do with it. Pfft. Their opinions mean nothing to me.

[Alas Babylon!]

Good, good, good!

Let's all brainstorm this today!!!

Chiller has some great points to consider. We know what is occurring. We can document it succinctly. how do we get it out there where others can see it?

[chiller]

Rush-- attacking Michael J. Fox near the end and we did just enough to lose.

As I understand it, Rush actually tightened that race. At least the cloning advocates in MO believe Rush is why it barely passed. They had been seeing overwhelming support until the Rush/Fox kerkuffle. I assume that translates fairly well to the Senatorial race, too. Do you know differently?

[anita]

Thanks AB, Madrassa Media is our #1 enemy.

Here 's this sunday's Media Nuggets

###### Hearings, Pelosi? NBC Robs New York taxpayers to eliminate 700 jobs. And worse, NBC got a whopping $133 million in tax subsidies.

###### News Corp. might acquire Newsday.

###### Major Shareholder Steps Up Fight With NY Times. Morgan Stanley investment fund urges the NYTimes Co. board to "reform" its corporate governance practices. At the same time, warns shareholders to Dump their shares of the NYTimes.

###### Philadelphia Inquirer May Lose 150 Jobs.

###### Chicago Sun-Times reports big losses!

###### LA Times editor FIRED!

###### While Pelosi talks about minimum wage rise, Big Wage Cuts at her own backyard.

###### While all media ad.sales shrink, WSJ October Ad Sales Rise!

###### For Brit Hume, the clock's ticking. Fox's veteran politics anchor sees retirement down the road.

###### Rupert Murdoch says he has no regrets about supporting the US-led invasion of Iraq and argues the US death toll in the conflict is "minute" from a historical perspective.(If only Fox people followed their boss.....)

###### You too, Brian Kilmeade?

###### While David Gregory was arguing about death penalty for Saddam Hussain, his NBC cmera crew delivers death to a person while shooting for dateline.

[Chuck54]

I feel contempt for every Republican who did not support President Bush during this election.

....and could we start with Charlie Crist, governor candidate in Florida who stood the President up only days before the election.

If I had lived in Florida I would have voted for his opponent.

[rodguy911]

Excellent point,we can return the favor! All those periodicals depend on ad revenues. If their sponsors want our patronage, they too better get on board.
Oor conservative gals are far better looking and would look far better on magazine covers than the hildabeast.

[johnny7]

I'd rather be feeling angry in FL... ;)

[TET1968]

Just now on Fox, back to back, they had a liberal explaining how conservative Pelosi, Ried and Rangel really are.
Their intro for the next guest was a report that even though the left ran on a platform of
"BRING THE TROOPS HOME !",the voters who allowed them to take control didn't necessarily want
the troops withdrawn soon.

The next guest, a Liberal professor who, now that his side is in control, is explaining to us dumb Americans that if we pull out, Israel will be surrounded and eaten up by those terrible freedom fighters....sorry, ..."Terrorists".

Fox News staged this entire segment.