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Iraq Study Group won't rock the boat ~ ~ a Helen Thomas Editorial....
Seattle PI ^ | Friday, December 1, 2006 | Helen Thomas

Posted on 11/30/2006 9:27:21 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach

WASHINGTON -- With Iraq falling apart, it's getting lonely at the top for President Bush.

His hawkish neo-con advisers are deserting him. He had to fire Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld. The Democrats have won control of Congress. U.S. allies are angry at his Iraq policies.

And even Henry Kissinger -- one of Bush's foreign policy advisers and a key architect of the Vietnam debacle -- has decided Iraq is a can't-win situation. He earlier had told Bush, "The only exit strategy is victory."

Bush's father, former President George H. W. Bush, has come to his defense. It's Bush 41 rushing to rescue Bush 43.

It's widely assumed that when Bush named his father's close friend and confidante -- James Baker -- as co-chairman of a bipartisan 10-member Iraq Study Group, he was looking for a diplomatic retreat from the Iraqi dilemma. After all, Baker was secretary of state in the Bush 41 administration and knows his way around the Middle East. Both he and the senior Bush have hobnobbed together in the region representing the Carlyle Group, the privately owned conglomerate that sells weapons, among other items.

(Excerpt) Read more at seattlepi.nwsource.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: helenthomas; hotnewsbabe; iraq; surrendergroup
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1 posted on 11/30/2006 9:27:25 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: NormsRevenge; Grampa Dave; SierraWasp; Marine_Uncle; blam; SunkenCiv; Allegra; Dog; Coop; ...
Her closing :

This is unfortunate because the dire mess in Iraq demands bold action by the U.S. The real solution is a cakewalk out of Iraq tomorrow. The world would stand in shock and awe.

2 posted on 11/30/2006 9:31:32 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Idiot.


3 posted on 11/30/2006 9:32:57 PM PST by KingKenrod
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
[All it takes is courage.]

Yes. The courage of Neville Chamberlain, Jimmy Carter, and all of the weak-kneed fools and cowards that preceded and succeeded them. Fortunately for them, there have always been brave, realistic, and patriotic souls who have come forward to win the inevitable battles and wars which by necessity ensued.

4 posted on 11/30/2006 9:40:22 PM PST by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Democracy: The worst form of government, except for all the others.)
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To: KingKenrod

I posted that with comment on the single poster....saying he was as big an idiot as the writer of the editorial...


5 posted on 11/30/2006 9:40:59 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Let me get this straight. If 'neo-con' is supposed to describe Jewish Conservatives like Bill Kristol, Paul Wolfowitz and whomever else; and 'neo-con' is a derogatory comment as used by every single liberal/socialist on TV/print; then pray tell me know the use of 'neo-conservative' is not considered an anti-semitic statement?

I'll accept as an alternative theory the fact that the prefix 'neo' is used solely to describe Nazi's and Conservatives for the purpose of making the latter sound like they are associated with the former.

Neo-Conservatives are often neither New OR Conservative, discuss......

6 posted on 11/30/2006 9:43:00 PM PST by bpjam (Don't Blame Me. I Voted GOP.)
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To: KingKenrod
Idiot.

You forgot fat, ugly and old.

7 posted on 11/30/2006 9:45:06 PM PST by manic4organic
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Thomas is a lecherous old crone, she has to be living a miserable existence.


8 posted on 11/30/2006 9:48:05 PM PST by jazusamo (Murtha still owes the Haditha Marines an apology-See DogMurtha.com.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I bet if she stepped out of her crusty old girdle, it would stand in shock and awe as well.


9 posted on 11/30/2006 9:58:37 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ...... Kyl / Cornyn in '08)
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10 posted on 11/30/2006 10:00:15 PM PST by smoothsailing (http://warchronicle.com/TheyAreNotKillers/DefendOurMarines.htm)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I don't see your comment there. Apparently you can only call the President and idiot in that newpaper. Figures!


11 posted on 11/30/2006 10:02:34 PM PST by TigersEye (Ego chatters on endlessly. Mind speaks in great silence.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Some liberals are giving up on the Iraq Study Group. They may have listened to President Bush today where he said we will not leave Iraq until the mission is complete and that there are no negotiation with Syria and Iran. In other words the President is telling the Iraq Study group to go and pound sand.


12 posted on 11/30/2006 10:16:46 PM PST by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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Captain ED at CQ had an interesting comment about some just released info on Iran and the Study roup:

November 30, 2006
Does This Mean War?

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Someone at the Pentagon has let the cat out of the bag -- and apparently, it's a Persian. Citing "US officials", ABC News reported earlier today that the US has smoking-gun evidence that Iran has supplied the insurgents in Iraq with sophisticated weaponry used to attack American soldiers:

U.S. officials say they have found smoking-gun evidence of Iranian support for terrorists in Iraq: brand-new weapons fresh from Iranian factories. According to a senior defense official, coalition forces have recently seized Iranian-made weapons and munitions that bear manufacturing dates in 2006.

This suggests, say the sources, that the material is going directly from Iranian factories to Shia militias, rather than taking a roundabout path through the black market. "There is no way this could be done without (Iranian) government approval," says a senior official.

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I find the timing of this revelation very interesting. We know the James Baker-led Iraq Study Group has prepared its recommendations, because they've been busy leaking them a week ahead of the deadline. We know that they will urge the Bush administration to reverse almost thirty years of foreign policy and engage Teheran in direct negotiations regarding security for Iraq. We also know that the Joint Chiefs have already decided to oppose the main thrusts of the ISG.

Now, suddenly, ABC News finds out that the Pentagon has found the Imam Label on insurgent weapons. Does it appear to anyone else that someone at the Department of Defense has decided to pre-empt the ISG and its call for negotiated surrender to state-sponsored terrorism?


13 posted on 11/30/2006 10:48:29 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
The real solution is a cakewalk out of Iraq tomorrow. The world would stand in shock and awe.
...y'know, because she's an expert in foreign policy. What a useless waste of skin she is. And a lot of skin, for that matter.
14 posted on 11/30/2006 10:50:02 PM PST by SunkenCiv (I last updated my profile on Thursday, November 16, 2006 https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Iran must be broken. We should strike Iran with a massive air campaign that will destroy their nuclear facilities, military infrastructures, command and control centers, and their leadership. A broken Iran will solve the Middle East problem.
15 posted on 11/30/2006 10:58:02 PM PST by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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To: jveritas; SunkenCiv
And from Powerline:

It's Official: Iran Arming Iraqi Militias

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Iranian-made munitions found in Iraq include advanced IEDs designed to pierce armor and anti-tank weapons. U.S. intelligence believes the weapons have been supplied to Iraq's growing Shia militias from Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps, which is also believed to be training Iraqi militia fighters in Iran.

This has been known or suspected for a while, of course. The 2006 munitions may have just been captured, or this news may be part of an effort to influence public reaction to the soon-to-be-released Baker-Hamilton report. If we're going to "talk to Iran," as the Baker commission is expected to recommend, what, exactly, are we going to tell Ahmadinejad that will convince him that instead of fomenting and enabling violence in Iraq, he should help us stop it?

It's certainly a question we'll have in mind when we read the commission's report.

PAUL adds: So this means war, right?

SCOTT adds: Michael Ledeen writes in response to Paul's question:

The really big news in that story is that, for the first time (I think), American officials branded the Iranian regime as responsible for the weapons traffic. Up until now, they have always given the mullahs some wiggle room, you know, maybe 'rogue elements' are at work. But not this time.

Yes, it's war. A bit lopsided, to be sure; they've been attacking and killing Americans for 27 years. We keep offering goodies. It seems our commanders in the field have decided to blow the whistle on our feckless politicos.

JOHN responds: I wonder whether our commanders have decided to blow the whistle on the Baker-Hamilton commission, specifically.

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16 posted on 11/30/2006 11:02:13 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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17 posted on 11/30/2006 11:12:31 PM PST by NapkinUser (Tom Tancredo for president of the United States of America in 2008!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
The real solution is a cakewalk surrender to the terrorists out of Iraq tomorrow. The world would stand in shock and awe pure disgust.

Fixed it, Helen.

18 posted on 12/01/2006 12:42:00 AM PST by Allegra (Can't Talk Now...I'm Busy Looking for That Civil War the Media Keeps Talking About)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

once again the madeline albright look alike confirms that the libs mantra is losing is winning.


19 posted on 12/01/2006 3:55:34 AM PST by JohnLongIsland
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Whenever we read anything from this Islamofascist toady, we need to remember her private pin up picture she has sent to al Qaeda, Saddam and the despots in charge of Iran and Syria.


20 posted on 12/01/2006 7:53:52 AM PST by Grampa Dave (The Bush haters on both sides have elected the government they have dreamed of!)
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