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Rush Limbaugh Live Thread Thursday December 7th
RushLimbaugh.com ^ | 12-07-2006

Posted on 12/07/2006 8:49:54 AM PST by MNJohnnie

http://billroggio.com/archives/2006/12/the_military_and_the.php

The Military and The Media

The divide grows

FALLUJAH, IRAQ: I've completed the first leg of the journey to Iraq, after having moved through Dubai, Kuwait and Baghdad. I am now at Camp Fallujah. While in Fallujah, I'll embed with a Marine Police Transition Team (PTT) and also meet with the Civil Affairs Group. The next stop will be Ramadi.

The trip - from my front door to Fallujah - took 3 ½ days, accounting for the 8 hour time shift between the East Coast and Iraq. This is remarkable considering Iraq is a war zone. I spent all of 35 minutes in the Green Zone getting my ID badge and another two hours waiting for a flight to Fallujah. Most of the time was spent waiting at military airbases, trying to catch that next flight out on a plane or helicopter.

During my movement to Fallujah, I was on 3 bases and one camp: At Ali Al Salem (Kuwait), BIAP (Baghdad International Airport), Camp Stryker, and LZ Washington (inside the Green Zone).

The travel is long, and it can be boring if you let it get to you. But you're surrounded by a bunch of soldiers, Marines and contractors that are also traveling, many of them alone. They are either coming back from or going on leave, or moving into or out of the region. Most of them are quite friendly and happy to strike up a conversation. This is an interesting time to speak to them, because they are not as engrossed in the daily grind of Iraq as they are when I see them while I'm embedded. Here is a brief overview of some of the discussions I had with those I met while shuttling around Kuwait and Iraq.

Ali Al Salem:

At the transient tent (where you get to sleep and store your gear while waiting), I spoke to an Explosive Ordinance and Demolitions (EOD) contractor. These are the guys that blow up the leftover explosives and munitions from the Saddam era. He told me about how the media isn't telling the full story about the nature of the enemy, and specifically complained about the manipulation and distortion of the Kay report. He said he's run across bunkers and the equipment and chemical precursors to WMD buried in the deserts of western Iraq.

During a smoke break, an Army private discussed his time in Balad. He said mortars (which are blind-fired) are the greatest threat his unit faces. Not IEDs, I asked? Nope. While waiting to board the flight to BIAP, a Marine Major complained about how the progress in western Iraq has virtually gone unnoticed, and was furious over the characterization of the Devlin report on Anbar province. I gave him my card.

BIAP:

I had the pleasure being the only person on the shuttle bus from BIAP to Camp Stryker, and the driver, an Army specialist, struck up a conversation with me. I needed a SIM chip for my cell phone so I could call the States and in Iraq, so he took me across the base on some extremely bumpy roads looking for a place that sold them. During the drive, he explained his forays into Sadr City, how the residents were largely hostile to U.S. forces, and some engagements he's encountered. Yet he spoke admirably of the Iraqi people. He said they were hard working and willing to fight, and hoped we wouldn't abandon the Iraqi people.

We couldn't find an open store that sold the SIM chip, so he kindly offered to give me his as he knew I was desperate. I paid him for the card and a little extra to call home. He said he'll get a new card tomorrow.

Camp Stryker:

While waiting to catch the flight to the Green Zone, I spoke to two Army captains, one who works in Civil Affairs, the other with the Military Transition Teams. Both explained how the situation could look very different based on your job, but that the Iraqi police and Army were making real progress. They said the Iraqis' skills ranged from poor to excellent, but they always saw improvement.

I also overheard an Army specialist sitting behind me curse the media (and I mean curse), saying they didn't know what they were talking about when it came to Iraq. I talked to him, and explained I'm considered a reporter, and that I won't argue with his points. I made him uncomfortable. Had he known I was 'the press' I think he would have kept it to himself.

LZ Washington:

While waiting to manifest on the flight to Fallujah, CNN played a news segment of President Bush announcing there would be no “graceful exit” from Iraq, and that we'd stay until the mission was complete. Two sergeants in the room cheered. Loudly. They then scoffed at the reports from Baghdad, and jeered the balcony reporting.

In nearly every conversation, the soldiers, Marines and contractors expressed they were upset with the coverage of the war in Iraq in general, and the public perception of the daily situation on the ground. They felt the media was there to sensationalize the news, and several stated some reporters were only interested in “blood and guts.” They freely admitted the obstacles in front of them in Iraq. Most recognized that while we are winning the war on the battlefield, albeit with difficulties in some areas, we are losing the information war. They felt the media had abandoned them.

During each conversation, I was left in the awkward situation of having to explain that while, yes, I am wearing a press badge, I'm not 'one of them.' I used descriptions like 'independent journalist' or 'blogger' in an attempt to separate myself from the pack.

What a terrible situation to be in, having to defend yourself because of your profession. I've always said that the hardest thing about embedding (besides leaving my family) is wearing the badge that says 'PRESS.' That hasn't changed. I hide the badge whenever I can get away with it.

This isn't the first time I encountered this sentiment from the troops. I experienced this attitude from the Marines while I was in western Iraq last year, and the soldiers in the Canadian Army in Afghanistan also expressed frustration with the media's presentation of the war.

Perhaps this tension between the media and the military is nothing new. But it appalls me none the less.


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To: HonestConservative

I'm not certain, but I don't think he would be able to raise the hundred million required to run for POTUS, but I certainly hope he gets a strong looking at for the VP position in 2008.


361 posted on 12/07/2006 11:39:45 AM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Bahbah

Talks a lot, says much of nothing.


362 posted on 12/07/2006 11:40:01 AM PST by rottndog (WOOF!!!)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

All the old folks are shocked, SHOCKED that the state added a 22 cent increase in the gas tax per gallon since the election.

Shocked! AND THOSE EVIL OIL COMPANIES! SHOCKING! /s


363 posted on 12/07/2006 11:41:03 AM PST by HonestConservative (Snowflake, Levinite and eeevildooer, not necessarily in that order.)
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To: Clint N. Suhks

He sounds like a school teacher (apologies to FReeper school teachers everywhere)


364 posted on 12/07/2006 11:41:09 AM PST by hattend (Carpe Macaca)
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To: Bahbah

I'm not sure the caller knows what his point is.


365 posted on 12/07/2006 11:41:15 AM PST by rightwingintelligentsia
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To: HonestConservative

Caller is comparing the ISG commission with the Australian-Muslim
child who peed on the Bible. Saying the child has more understanding
of his actual "values" than the adults who are on the commission. Huh?


366 posted on 12/07/2006 11:41:58 AM PST by Jo Nuvark (Those who bless Israel will be blessed, those who curse Israel will be cursed. Gen 12:3)
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To: HonestConservative

Is the PA House and Senate Rat?


367 posted on 12/07/2006 11:42:21 AM PST by ChicagoConservative27
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To: Arizona Carolyn

Well, if we start now..........


368 posted on 12/07/2006 11:43:02 AM PST by HonestConservative (Snowflake, Levinite and eeevildooer, not necessarily in that order.)
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To: Clint N. Suhks
WTF is this guy talking about? Metaphor?

Ok, I guess he means that the Christian boy urinating on a Koran would get headline news, and a Muslim boy urinating on a Bible would get no press...I think? And that is a metaphor for the whole War on Terror attitude by our media and Washington elite...I think?

369 posted on 12/07/2006 11:43:12 AM PST by MaestroLC ("Let him who wants peace prepare for war."--Vegetius, A.D. Fourth Century)
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To: HonestConservative

I'm not listening to Weiner Nation again like I did last night! Can't take another rant like his bashing of Dick Cheney's daugher!


370 posted on 12/07/2006 11:43:52 AM PST by MarkLevinFan
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To: MaestroLC; Clint N. Suhks

Seems like the caller was reading from a document without punctuation.


371 posted on 12/07/2006 11:44:47 AM PST by Jo Nuvark (Those who bless Israel will be blessed, those who curse Israel will be cursed. Gen 12:3)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

It is now, I believe. The house was down to a one body diff, but that went Rat.

Doesn't matter, they all suck.


372 posted on 12/07/2006 11:44:58 AM PST by HonestConservative (Snowflake, Levinite and eeevildooer, not necessarily in that order.)
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To: HonestConservative
I hear what you're saying, but we all know there is a lot of money already war-chested for the people being most prominantly listed.

The good thing Rick has going for him that the front runners are lacking -- he's not only smart, he's young! As VP he would be in a perfect position to slide into the WH after eight years.

373 posted on 12/07/2006 11:45:00 AM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: MarkLevinFan

THis is such a discerning crowd, I do not know how you can listen to him AT ALL.


374 posted on 12/07/2006 11:46:07 AM PST by HonestConservative (Snowflake, Levinite and eeevildooer, not necessarily in that order.)
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To: MarkLevinFan

I heard Weiner once, and that was more than enough.


375 posted on 12/07/2006 11:46:51 AM PST by MaestroLC ("Let him who wants peace prepare for war."--Vegetius, A.D. Fourth Century)
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To: Arizona Carolyn

He's smart, young, and cute, too. That's always helpful with those Soccer Mom voters.


376 posted on 12/07/2006 11:47:48 AM PST by rightwingintelligentsia
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To: Arizona Carolyn

All that war chested money can be slid right over to Santorum if necessary, but understood.

Your thinking Romney/Santorum?


377 posted on 12/07/2006 11:48:07 AM PST by HonestConservative (Snowflake, Levinite and eeevildooer, not necessarily in that order.)
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To: HonestConservative

Oh..yeah...I listen to my local sports talk show when I get tired of politics...and even though they don't even have news reports...Pres. Bush takes his hits...sigh


378 posted on 12/07/2006 11:48:21 AM PST by Txsleuth (Bolton/Cheney (that would be Lynne) 08)
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To: HonestConservative

379 posted on 12/07/2006 11:48:28 AM PST by Clint N. Suhks (Jesus is the reason for the season!)
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To: HonestConservative

Bill Schneider? Pimping for Algore? Why doesn't he just vote for a tree?


380 posted on 12/07/2006 11:48:32 AM PST by American Quilter (You can't negotiate with people who are dedicated to your destruction.)
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