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French troops had bin Laden in sights: documentary
Reuters via Yahoo ^ | 12/19/06 | Francois Murphy

Posted on 12/19/2006 5:23:46 PM PST by advance_copy

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To: blam

"BTW, the French Special Forces are being withdrawn from Afghanistan."







They are being relocated to Africa in the same area where an American Special Forces base is at Djibouti, where some kind of Special Operations work seems to be anticipated in the near future.


21 posted on 12/19/2006 6:04:55 PM PST by ansel12 (America, love it ,or at least give up your home citizenship before accepting ours too.)
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To: blam
If this be true, then:

"Zoot Alors, moi, Je ne tirez pas, et j'ai Ozama en mes yeux!

Yeah Right!!

Rummy was right. Going to war with the French as Allies is like going deer hunting with an accordian player.

"Ve deed not shot heem parceque, honlee an Americain Bulleet woul bee politicallee couract??"

This article would be absolutely laughable if some folks did not take it so seriously.

22 posted on 12/19/2006 6:05:22 PM PST by Candor7 (Into Liberal flatulance goes the best hope of the West, and who wants to be a smart feller?)
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To: advance_copy
The story feeds...

1. French desire to believe they're the only ones who can really get a job done

2. French desier to believe they're warriors, after all

3. French need to believe they're being used by the United States

4. Leftist believe that the US always NEEDS an enemy somewhere in the world, in order to justify militarism

23 posted on 12/19/2006 6:19:56 PM PST by gaijin
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To: advance_copy
A documentary says French special forces had Osama bin Laden in their sights twice about three years ago but their U.S. superiors never ordered them to fire.

The French military, however, said that the incidents never happened and the report was "erroneous information."

Well, that's that then. (Anon Source)

FMCDH(BITS)

24 posted on 12/19/2006 6:22:20 PM PST by nothingnew (I fear for my Republic due to marxist influence in our government. Open eyes/see)
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To: advance_copy

I dunno - I'm not very trusting of Reuters. It's also possible that the French government didn't want to be responsible for one of it's own pulling the trigger, just as our command might have had some national pride over who's taking the shot. I dunno I need to see more info.


25 posted on 12/19/2006 6:23:15 PM PST by rjp2005 (Lord have mercy on us)
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To: oceanview
These French SF types were obviously the fellows so well spoken of the other day by a former German NATO soldier.Those fine heroes who were such a supportive element to the Americans in "their" (the Americans)
War on Terror.
These Brave stalwarts must be those who have the "Hearts of Lions".
Or maybe I did not read it correctly. Mayhap it was the "Farts of Lyon".
ROTLLMAO

One thing when you have the French on your side you do not need a compass. Keep your eye on them and their natural inclination will be to head for France. Snort. Chuckle.
I wonder what the toll is on the Atlantic Bridge?:~)
26 posted on 12/19/2006 6:31:59 PM PST by Gideon Reader (" All of us know who the enemy is, and where the threat comes from, except for the politicians.")
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Image hosted by Photobucket.com he was arrested in july 2004 and convicted in september of that year, he got ten years but it was later reduced to five.

sucks to be him...

27 posted on 12/19/2006 6:36:21 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist ©®)
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If only unfurling the white flag required going up the chain of command .....


28 posted on 12/19/2006 7:04:51 PM PST by wodinoneeye
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To: unkus

There is a group...mostly from South Africa who's specialty is insurgency. If they were to "Hire" them to take out these creeps, like Bin Laden, it would be done in a few days.


29 posted on 12/19/2006 7:16:32 PM PST by crz
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Why didn't we hire them you suppose?


30 posted on 12/19/2006 7:18:31 PM PST by unkus
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To: unkus

Two initials....PC. Dont wanna make it appear that we hired "Hired Guns" now do we?

This outfit has been successful all over the African continent in stemming communist uprisings. And if they are successful in the deserts and jungles of Africa, then they can do as well in the mountains of Afganistan. That is, if they are still in business. The last I heard they were not.


31 posted on 12/19/2006 7:28:15 PM PST by crz
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"...but the order to shoot never came, ...

Why the he!! did they need another order - wasn't the order already out to shoot him on sight???!

32 posted on 12/19/2006 9:28:30 PM PST by jackibutterfly
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To: Candor7
Rummy was right. Going to war with the French as Allies is like going deer hunting with an accordian player.

It's a great quote but it was by a deputy undersecretary of defense Jed Babbin in the administration of Bush Sr., during the first Gulf War, not Donald Rumsfeld.

33 posted on 12/20/2006 5:41:57 PM PST by piasa (Attitude Adjustments Offered Here Free of Charge)
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To: Dog; oceanview; blam; rjp2005
I think this story may very well be true. I'm with rjp2005 there might have been some reason why they couldn't take the shot without the Americans' go-ahead.

I'm surprised that there is no "shoot on sight" order. But, then I've understood the War on Terror less and less as time goes by.

Of course, hindsight is 20/20, but it seems that maybe the objectives were too broad, defining this effort as a war (yes, I know 9/11 was horrific), and then setting the objective of establishing functioning democratic governments.

Perhaps a narrower objective would have been better, defining it as retaliatory action against Afghanistan for harboring Al-Queda (massive destructive bombing) and then concentrating all resources on getting bin Laden.

Second, all this talk about enemy combatants and POWs, etc. (Getting away from the torture issue, for a minute.)In a sense this elevates them, certainly in the eyes of their supporters. Like, here's Osama, he is at war with the United States, great warrior going up against the mightiest nation on Earth. Instead, we could have treated him like a criminal, captured him, presented him to the Mayor of New York (not the President!). The Mayor could then look at the Police Chief and say "Book em" and the Chief could then read him his rights.

34 posted on 12/21/2006 9:19:32 AM PST by ARCADIA (Abuse of power comes as no surprise)
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