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1 posted on 12/23/2006 7:53:26 AM PST by dennisw
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To: dennisw

In spite of this, we have record low unemployment. Apparently Americans are finding jobs that are better than what the illegal aliens are doing.

How do you explain this?


3 posted on 12/23/2006 8:00:27 AM PST by Dog Gone
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To: dennisw
There's a popular game in America that goes, I'll cut your wages, but you don't cut mine.

The idiot forgot the other rules of the game.

In America opportunities abound, so if you DON'T LIKE the wages I'm paying you and you really are a special employee, then you can LEAVE and go anywhere you want and ask for more. Or you can start your own enterprise and work to become whatever you want. All it takes is hard work.

4 posted on 12/23/2006 8:01:02 AM PST by ElkGroveDan (When toilet paper is a luxury, you have achieved communism.)
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To: dennisw
As it turns out, the meat-processing companies that employ so many illegal immigrants have been enjoying a nearly 50-percent discount on what was the going rate. In 1980, the average meat-processing job paid $19 an hour. The companies then moved their plants to rural areas, far from the Midwest cities and their unions. The industry's wages now average about $9 an hour.

Yet, my grocery bill has tripled rather than dropped 50%.

5 posted on 12/23/2006 8:04:34 AM PST by mtbopfuyn (I think the border is kind of an artificial barrier - San Antonio councilwoman Patti Radle)
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To: dennisw
The day I see one of these pro "free trade" economists, policy wonks, or executives give up their own jobs to someone who will do it for less will be the day I might consider offshore outsourcing to be a good thing.

In the meantime, we should tariff the profits made by companies which offshore American jobs, and use those tariffs to lower the ridiculously high income taxes that we pay here.

6 posted on 12/23/2006 8:07:29 AM PST by pnh102
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To: dennisw

All these arguments are moot. There is no reason or excuse that justifies illegal immigration.


8 posted on 12/23/2006 8:10:04 AM PST by umgud (I love NASCAR as much as the Democrats hate Bush)
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To: dennisw

Who needs a butcher? My Daddy taught me how to hunt and fish!


9 posted on 12/23/2006 8:10:30 AM PST by spanalot
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To: Willie Green; Wolfie; ex-snook; Jhoffa_; FITZ; arete; FreedomPoster; Red Jones; Pyro7480; ...
The U.S. Chamber of Commerce likes to wail about the "labor shortage." It says there aren't enough chambermaids, dishwashers, etc. to work for its members at lousy wages. Odd, but when there's a shortage of labor -- or anything else -- doesn't the price of it go up? The price of unskilled labor in the United States hasn't gone up. It's gone down.

Cheap labor shortage.

11 posted on 12/23/2006 8:16:33 AM PST by A. Pole (GWB believes that "guest worker" program will satisfy economy needs for cheap and plentiful labour.)
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I love the attitude so many FReepers have, "What's good for me is good for America."
18 posted on 12/23/2006 8:25:03 AM PST by BW2221
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Reporters thrive on sympathetic stories about illegal immigrants who work hard and go to church.

Ain't that the truth.

19 posted on 12/23/2006 8:27:40 AM PST by Lijahsbubbe
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To: dennisw

btt


26 posted on 12/23/2006 8:38:56 AM PST by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; 7.62 x 51mm; ..

ping


70 posted on 12/23/2006 2:37:11 PM PST by gubamyster
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To: dennisw
the meat-processing companies that employ so many illegal immigrants have been enjoying a nearly 50-percent discount on what was the going rate. In 1980, the average meat-processing job paid $19 an hour.... now average about $9 an hour.

And even then "just hours" after the raids, American Citizens are lining up for those jobs that "Americans will not do."

Treasonus lies from the employers and government.

Build the wall, deport them ALL.

110 posted on 12/24/2006 9:44:57 AM PST by TLI (ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA, MMP AZ 2005, TxMMP El Paso Oct+April 2006 TxMMP Laredo - El Paso)
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To: dennisw

I would rather pay extra money for goods and services than to have people who are here illegaly, we're supposed to be a nation of laws.

If we had no illegals, how much less would health insurance cost, property taxes to educate illegals, how much less? Medical bills? Car Insurance? Income tax which go to people breaking our immigration laws.

I think we would SAVE money in the long run, and have a more unified country.

In the end I don't care if it costs MORE not to have illegal immigrants, but I bet it would cost less.


112 posted on 12/24/2006 7:50:02 PM PST by word_warrior_bob
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