NEA's Plan for Reducing School Dropouts (Slavery for 18 to 21 year olds?)

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[freedomfiter2]

And finally,,of course, the high school diploma will be worth even less than it is today. In my office I will not even interview a person with a high school diploma. They only way I can know that an applicant can read is if they have had at least some community college. ( By the way, the job could be done by any normal Amish kid.)


With all due respect, you're part of the problem. Insisting that people get at least some community college when all you need is someone with a real 8th grade education just builds up the fraudulant education industry.

[freedomfiter2]

Hm,,,I can see it now, "Graduating Centers" for recalcitrant 60 year olds..hm?

Yeah, just check out the GOP voter registrations and take down license numbers outside of churches.

[wintertime]

real 8th grade education

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I hired a 14 year old homeschooler once. She was great!

But,,,honestly,,as a small business person, I must be efficient. I do not have the experience or knowledge to create my own ability tests, and I honestly don't even want an illiterate or innumerate darkening my door. It wastes my time.

[wintertime]

This caper is so patently obvious, it warrants total disdain!


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Yes, it is about money going to the NEA.

But,,,more disturbing to me, it the assault on freedom. What the NEA has proposed is imprisoning 19 to 21 year olds in its so-called "graduation centers". This is truly evil.

[wintertime]

Yeah, just check out the GOP voter registrations and take down license numbers outside of churches.

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I wouldn't be surprised if NEA operatives were doing that already.

But,,,the NEA will call good church going people evil, and the true evil the NEA is pushing on innocent children "good".

Isn't this one proposal, to imprison 19 to 21 year olds in its compulsory "graduation centers" proof enough of their tyrannical evil?

Why is the media asleep about this?

[Kevmo]

Interesting discussion. We have been discussing inexpensive ways to fast track kids through high school to avoid the liberal agenda:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1315730/posts?page=84#84

[wintertime]

It took months and a lot of money to prove SS was wrong. In the end, they dropped it, but only after she and her husband signed a paper promising not to sue them. In other words, they blackmailed her because they screwed up.

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The NEA and the SS walk hand in hand down the same path to Marxist hell.

[1L]

>>If they don't have a clue, I know that either they never digested the material in the first place, or "pressed clear" when the course was over.<<

Depends on who you are interviewing. My undergrad degree was in Economics. If you ask me a macro question (even 1 month out of school), you'd get the "don't have a clue" response since I honestly didn't quite get macro. But if you wanted to talk micro and industrial organization, you would have found that I was quite well versed at the time.

However, now, I'm not sure I remember much of that stuff other than marginal cost = marginal revenue as the sweet spot on the curve (not even the best way or even a good way to phrase it). And I'd have to think long and hard to remember why. But I did grasp the overall broad concepts economics teaches and use those regularly.

[wintertime]

Thanks. I have pinged it for later.

[Calpernia]

OMG. Your Niece must have been a nervous wreck! Thank God that got dropped.

[SoftballMominVA]

I believe homeschooling is illegal in Germany.

I am a strong proponent of choice in schools and although I teach in a public school, I don't think the public school is always the best choice. My SIL lives in inner-city LA (her husband is a minister) and she homeschooled her 2 and has sent her 9th grader to a boarding school in Wisconsin (Lutheran Prep).

There simply is no 'one-size-fits-all' policy. I am one of those with no hesitations believe in the 'alacarte' high school where kids come to take what they want from the public schools. One of my daughter's best friends takes Chem and then is home-schooled the rest of the day.

I always try to remember that these are children we are working with, no faceless numbers. You have to do right by the kid before all.

I hope we do not get to the point where we resemble the EU, although I am fearful of it. There are some scary correlations between 21st century America and 2/3rd century Rome. The Goths are always at the gate and many people in this country forget that.

[arthurus]

Wrong. They know the difference and they have their preferences.

[Amelia]

Before everyone gets too hyped up, you need to remember that this is only a series of recommendations by the NEA. They will ultimately be debated at the federal, state, and local levels, and probably implemented differently (if at all) at each level. The NEA cannot implement, they can only suggest.

Meantime, there are other proposals for improving our educational system. Arguably the most important is the recent report by The New Commission on the Skills of the American Workforce, which has received much more publicity, and has been discussed (but perhaps not in depth) at FR here and here. I also found a preview/rationale of the report here.

In short, this proposal says that most students should not remain in school after age 16 - somewhat different from the NEA proposal.

I'd suggest that debating the pros and cons of each specific proposal is probably more constructive than rejecting proposals based on who proposed them. As my grandmother used to say, even a blind hog finds an acorn now and then.

[bboop]

More jobs for union teachers and more MONEY for the education sector. VERY BAD IDEA. If they cannot do it in 12 years can we trust them to do it in 16? 18? Birth-to-death programming (I mean, education).

We should eliminate compulsory education/ programming altogether. Abe Lincoln seemed to do ok without it, and the pioneers, and the Patriots/ Founding Fathers/ Minutemen/ Revolutionary War patriots.

[Calpernia]

I've no problem rejecting anything that comes form the NEA. I challenge anyone from the NEA to define an acorn without looking it up :P

[Amelia]

I've no problem rejecting anything that comes form the NEA. I challenge anyone from the NEA to define an acorn without looking it up :P

Okay, then, how about this proposal:

Expand students' graduation options through creative partnerships with community colleges in career and technical fields and with alternative schools so that students have another way to earn a high school diploma.

Do you think it is a good or a bad idea? Why or why not?

[wintertime]

I'd suggest that debating the pros and cons of each specific proposal is probably more constructive than rejecting proposals based on who proposed them. As my grandmother used to say, even a blind hog finds an acorn now and then.

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The NEA has just proposed IMPRISONING 19 to 21 year olds. IMPRISONMENT! This is a fascist and tyrannical idea regardless of WHO it comes from!!

It reflects the true character of the people running the NEA. Excuse me if I barf. I have just turned over a rock and seen the slime squirming underneath.

Please, explain it to me. Why on earth should we be debating the "pro-cons" of imprisoning 19 to 21 year olds in NEA "graduation centers"?

[wintertime]

That should read: from whom.

[wintertime]

Okay, then, how about this proposal:

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This is a red herring thrown out in a desperate attempt to distract the posters from the truth.

The NEA has proposed imprisoning 19 to 21 year ADULTS!!! Geeze! And ,,liberals have the audacity to accuse conservatives of being fascists?

The people running the NEA make me sick.

[wintertime]

Birth-to-death programming (I mean, education).

We should eliminate compulsory education/ programming altogether. Abe Lincoln seemed to do ok without it, and the pioneers, and the Patriots/ Founding Fathers/ Minutemen/ Revolutionary War patriots.

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Well, if the 19 to 21 year old resists the NEA indoctrination, what should we do IMPRISON them until they are 25 or 30 or 70.

What are they planing next? NEA gulags?