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NEA's Plan for Reducing School Dropouts (Slavery for 18 to 21 year olds?)
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Posted on 12/27/2006 5:59:04 PM PST by wintertime
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To: wintertime
The NEA has just proposed IMPRISONING 19 to 21 year olds. IMPRISONMENT! This is a fascist and tyrannical idea regardless of WHO it comes from!! No, it hasn't. Your Chicken-Little hysteria isn't helping your case any.
The NEA did say that all our children should receive high school diplomas, because "To compete in the 21st century, all of our citizens, at minimum, need a high school education."
Do you agree or disagree that a high school diploma will be necessary to compete in the 21st century?
The idea for the graduation centers (which you have described as "prisons") is stated as follows:
Establish high school graduation centers for students 19-21 years old to provide specialized instruction and counseling to all students in this older age group who would be more effectively addressed in classes apart from younger students.
I think it's fairly obvious that having students aged 19-21 in classes with 14-15 year olds might not be such a good idea.
If you'll think for a minute, you might also realize that a 19-21 year old who hasn't been able to graduate (unless they are mentally retarded, in which case they are probably being served elsewhere) might have specific skills gaps which are preventing passing the GED or other tests, and which specialized or individualized instruction, as provided in these centers, could best remedy. (I recall you telling of tutoring a student in math, and being able to help him tremendously?)
Do you think some individualized help might enable some of these students to succeed?
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posted on
12/28/2006 6:52:17 AM PST
by
Amelia
(If we hire them, they will come...)
To: Amelia
No partnerships.
I speak only based on what I know in my state. Schools can't even apply for grants directly. Each entity has to go begging to the Statewide Systematic Initiative (NJ SSI). That is nothing more than politically corrupt system where the monies are used by Pharmaceutical and Utility programs. The monies are meant for the schools. Partnerships create an entire control and abused system.
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posted on
12/28/2006 6:52:25 AM PST
by
Calpernia
(Breederville.com)
To: Calpernia
Ah, I wanted to add to my post.
Statewide Systematic Initiative (NJ SSI) also spreads that money OUT of our state to universities they 'partner' with in other states.
Therefore, taking away needed grants from our schools.
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posted on
12/28/2006 6:54:55 AM PST
by
Calpernia
(Breederville.com)
To: Amelia
No, it hasn't. Your Chicken-Little hysteria isn't helping your case any.
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The NEA own words explain exactly what they mean. They are plain for every Freeper to read. The NEA leadership are fascist, anti-freedom, tyrants.
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posted on
12/28/2006 6:58:41 AM PST
by
wintertime
(Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid)
To: Calpernia
Do you think there ought to be other options for high school graduation, such as being able to get a certificate or degree from a technical college, or do an apprenticeship at a real job, rather than just an academic high school diploma?
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posted on
12/28/2006 7:09:36 AM PST
by
Amelia
(If we hire them, they will come...)
To: wintertime
Maybe we should take it one statement at a time.
Do you agree or disagree that a high school diploma will be necessary to compete in the 21st century?
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posted on
12/28/2006 7:10:41 AM PST
by
Amelia
(If we hire them, they will come...)
To: Amelia
I actually miss the vocational classes the public schools use to carry. They have been removed from the schools to create separate technical schools. Those classes use to work as apprenticeship positions.
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posted on
12/28/2006 7:15:12 AM PST
by
Calpernia
(Breederville.com)
To: Amelia; Calpernia
Do you think there ought to be other options for high school graduation
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Ah,,,here comes the red herring again. Anything to distract the Freepers from the NEA proposal.
The NEA has just proposed mandatory imprisonment of 19 to 21 year olds in its COMPULSORY "graduation centers".
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posted on
12/28/2006 7:15:44 AM PST
by
wintertime
(Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid)
To: Amelia
Do you agree or disagree that a high school diploma will be necessary to compete in the 21st century?
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The NEA has just proposed imprisoning 19 to 21 year olds in its COMPULSORY "graduating centers".
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posted on
12/28/2006 7:17:07 AM PST
by
wintertime
(Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid)
To: wintertime
>>>>The NEA has just proposed mandatory imprisonment of 19 to 21 year olds in its COMPULSORY "graduation centers".
Will the centers be the Lebensborn centers or Dzierzazna & Litzmannstadti extermination canters?
190
posted on
12/28/2006 7:27:04 AM PST
by
Calpernia
(Breederville.com)
To: wintertime
191
posted on
12/28/2006 7:27:14 AM PST
by
Amelia
(If we hire them, they will come...)
To: Calpernia
I actually miss the vocational classes the public schools use to carry. They have been removed from the schools to create separate technical schools. Those classes use to work as apprenticeship positions.I agree.
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posted on
12/28/2006 7:27:57 AM PST
by
Amelia
(If we hire them, they will come...)
To: wintertime
The NEA has just proposed imprisoning 19 to 21 year olds in its COMPULSORY "graduating centers". Do you agree or disagree that a high school diploma will be necessary to compete in the 21st century?
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posted on
12/28/2006 7:28:59 AM PST
by
Amelia
(If we hire them, they will come...)
To: Amelia; Calpernia
I'm popping more popcorn-------LOL!!!
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posted on
12/28/2006 7:38:11 AM PST
by
Gabz
(If we weren't crazy, we'd just all go insane.)
To: Amelia
IMO, if the technical schools are post high school, the skills won't be as easy to build upon vs. the skills being taught in high school (or even moved down to start at a Jr. High level).
195
posted on
12/28/2006 7:40:08 AM PST
by
Calpernia
(Breederville.com)
To: Gabz
What flavor? I don't like spicy popcorn too early.
196
posted on
12/28/2006 7:40:44 AM PST
by
Calpernia
(Breederville.com)
To: Calpernia
Just extra butter and salt.
197
posted on
12/28/2006 7:41:47 AM PST
by
Gabz
(If we weren't crazy, we'd just all go insane.)
To: Gabz
If you are sharing the corn, no salt on mine please :)
My high school, way back when I was in school, was actually very cool. We had adjunct classes taught by college professors for the college prep classes and an entire vocational wing complete with a garage for auto shop, wood shop, a hair salon and cooking classes.
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posted on
12/28/2006 7:48:45 AM PST
by
Calpernia
(Breederville.com)
To: Amelia
Do you agree or disagree?
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I agree that the following is imprisonment of adult 19 to 21 year olds.
From the NEA's own web site:
"MANDATE high school graduation or equivalency as COMPULSORY for everyone below the age of 21. Just as we established compulsory attendance to the age of 16 or 17 in the beginning of the 20th century,it is appropriate and critical to ERADICATE the idea of "dropping out" before achieving a diploma."
"Make high school graduation a federal priority by calling on Congress and the president to invest $10 billion over the next 10 years to support dropout prevention programs and states who MAKE HIGH SCHOOL GRADUATION COMPULSORY."
There is a plainer way to state this: IMPRISONMENT for 19 to 21 year olds in NEA "graduation centers".
These fascist tyrants make me sick. I am disgusted.
So..if you wish to have a discussion on other parts of the NEA education plan, then start your own thread.
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posted on
12/28/2006 7:50:54 AM PST
by
wintertime
(Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid)
To: Amelia
Do you agree or disagree that a high school diploma will be necessary to compete in the 21st century?
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There are homeschoolers by the thousands who do not have high school diploma. My own homeschoolers with their B.S. degrees in math at age 18 are merely one small example.
There are citizens by the THOUSANDS in this country who do not have high school diplomas who are fine neighbors and citizens and thriving financially.
That the NEA would herd 19 to 21 year olds into "graduation centers" to force a high school diploma upon them is fascism at its best. People who would suggest this are fascists.
The NEA as really exposed its true cruel ( as well as stupid) character.
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posted on
12/28/2006 7:56:36 AM PST
by
wintertime
(Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid)
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