Posted on 01/09/2007 10:33:23 PM PST by Aussie Dasher
There's certainly a conflict of interest here -- on the Rat side. The new AG, who is quashing the investigation of "Killer Tiller," was bankrolled by the murderer!
If Paul Morrison decides to appoint his own special prosecutor to investigate abortionists and chooses the head of Planned Parenthood would you expect the investigation to be fair and impartial?
Yes, this took a lot of courage. Almost any conservative who stands up to the liberal machine as seriously as Phill Kline did will be hurt badly, if not destroyed. But c'est la guerre -- that's war. We just have to keep at it.
The difference between us is that you would back Hillary Clinton if you believe beyond any doubt that she was anti-abortion and anti-homosexual. She could do anything else but so long as she was with you in those two areas you would be behind her through thick or thin, do or die. That's not conservatism.
Yes, and the "Political Conservatives" (as if social issues have no political bearing) would elect Josef Stalin to protect doctors that dismember 31 week old children.
That's not conservatism. That's moral bankruptcy.
No we wouldn't because Stalin dis not believe to core conservative values of lower taxes and a smaller, less intrusive government. He actually believed the opposite.
I also support the enthusiastic and somewhat unrestrained use of American military power wherever (outside of eleven Southern states) it is useful whether in response to urban riots, Islamofascisti lunatics, people who see fit to attack Americans and our interests abroad, the Second Amendment RTKBA, low taxes, abolition of federal income taxation, a substantial attack on envirofiction and envirowussyism that results, and abolition of gummint skeweling (a wall of separation between gummint and skewels actually).
I don't imagine an America in which there are not alternatives to Mrs. Arkansas Antichrist. I don't imagine an America in which Mrs. Arkansas Antichrist would be regarded as even marginally pro-life or anti-homosexual (in fact, on the second of those there are rumors....). Nor do I imagine a pro-gun Hildebeast, an anti-gummint indoctrination Hildebeast, or a Hildebeast with three functioning brain cells to rub togather on matters allegedly environmental.
As to conservatism, what would Lincolnians know???? How would they know???? Do you also imagine John Brown a hero for his festivities at Potawatomie Creek? I think Bobby Lee and JEB Stuart were heroes for hanging the sorry SOB after Harper's Ferry. Do you think that Killer Tiller, the third trimester abortionist at Wichita, should be put out of business? Jailed???? Executed if laws existed and he were found guilty of violating them by killing third trimester babies????
To rephrase your silly allegation, no candidate who is NOT pro-life and pro-marriage deserves consideration from conservatives for any office where the candidate may make a difference on either issue. Some candidates may be merely questionable and that will require careful attention and high scrutiny. McCain vs. Mrs. Arkansas Antichrist (Butch Clinton???) might give conservatives pause as to McCain but most conservatives would vote for him whatever they say now. In primaries, Brownback or Mark Sanford or Mike Huckabee or Newt Gingrich or candidates yet to emerge will be available. Rudy Giuliani may rediscover his Brooklyn Italian Catholic roots and publicly wonder what sort of drugs he must have taken to go pro-death and pro-lavender (although the photos onstage in a tutu with a fake beauty mark and three pounds of facial powder and makeup will be a tough sell in Peoria and in Kansas, for that matter).
The old notion of Barry Goldwater as a conservative was effectively eliminated by his last term in the Senate and his public bragging of taking his daughter to abort his grandchild. The GOP is and will remain the party of Ronald Reagan. Goldwater did not like that since it converted Goldwater into an increasingly obscure historical footnote: at best a minimal forerunner of Reagan in a lesser conservative movement that preceded the 1964 election and, at worst, an eccentric traitor to the Reaganite cause in 1976 (actually cutting commercials for Gerald Ford in California warning voters not to let Reagan near the nuclear button, no less) and in his last term in the Senate when, having promised Arizona pro-lifers to vote with them when he was trailing a Democrat pro-lifer and conservative businessman on the Friday before election, Goldwater obtained his last election by false pretenses and then, having won, said it would be his last term and he would vote as he pleased.
The GOP is not your radical great, great, great grandfather's Republican Party or Lincoln's. Fortunately, it never will be again. The fashionable social issue Junior League types who favor the Morrisons over the Klines are fortunately averse to having large numbers of children. Kline supporters are not as fearful of large families. Do the demographics.
The Lincoln I have studied instituted the unconstitutional draft, instituted an unconstitutional income tax and militarily attacked what he claimed was his own country when those eleven states declared their independence and organized their own government. Which Lincoln are you referencing???
Only because she isn't anti-abortion apparently.
I noticed that in all your ranting and raving you didn't once mention smaller government. You mentioned lower taxes but not cutting spending. You're big on your anti-gay jihad but not on less intrusive government. For you being anti-abortion and anti-gay are the be-all and end-all of conservatism. For me, adherence to core conservative values would have put an end to abortion on it's own by leaving it up to the states to allow or, far more likely, disallow. I don't see where the govenment has a place in a person's sexual orientation.
You ask would I agree that Dr. Tiller be executed "...if laws existed and he were found guilty of violating them by killing third trimester babies????" Well, of course. If laws existed and he was found guilt of violating them and that was the mandated punishment. But the laws don't exist, and I think Kline was a fool for using his office on a personal crusade. If Tiller is guilty of violating the law then have him charged. Don't cook up a bunch of bogus misdemeanor counts and try and do an end run around the local DA. But in spite of all Kline's best efforts it looks like Tiller's acts, while reprihensible, weren't illegal. And unless the Supreme Court overturns or modifies Roe v Wade the won't be.
And if the 11 southern states launch another rebellion then I say we hunt up another Sherman to deal with it.
I loved Joan Finney, and she is the one and only Democrat I have ever voted for. A saint. Tried to get voter initiative ballot access for us, failed. The Wichita Eagle never cared for her. Was the first woman ever elected to governour in the state of Kansas.
Can anyone enlighten me about the lawsuit filed against Foulston and Clark in regards to this mess, haven't heard anymore about it
Like beauty, "fairness" (the first resort of guilty four-year-olds caught with hand in the same cookie jar as big sister was last week) and "impartiality" are in the eye of the beholder. I think that "fairness" would be the enactment of sane laws punishing abortion, the investigation of Tiller, his indictment, trial, conviction and execution by the same method he uses on the babies. Every bit as fair and impartial as the same course of conduct but leading to Old Sparky for Ted Bundy and the public buying "Bundyburgers" from vendors outside Florida State prison while waiting for the telltale dimming of the lights at the moment of his being broiled internally.
Just in case, there is any question: I also believe that the prosecution to execution of Paul Hill for shotgunning to death an abortionist and his bodyguard at Pensacola was fair and impartial. He violated the law against premeditated murder. He was arrested. He was tried. He was convicted. He was fried (or injected as the case may be). No problem! At least Hill had a noble if not sufficient excuse. His intentions do not make his crime non-criminal.
How many more tens of millions of innocent babies do you want killed by scalpels, chemicals, scissors in the back of the neck, etc., under obviously phony "cover" of SCOTUS imposed social prejudices posing as "law" before the last pro-abort should be purged from the GOP, the last pro-lifer recruited from the Demonratic Party and democracy (consistent with the actual constitution) regains the ability to legislate????
Didn't he only get the files last fall, after a judge's ruling?
May Governor Joan Finney's soul and all of the souls of the faithful (emphasis on that adjective) departed rest in peace! She may well be in heaven. Wanna bet on Morrison when his time comes?
Obviously not the one you're reading up on. Are we going to let this degenerate into a Southern Rebellion thread? Are you actually going to criticize Lincoln and defend Davis?
D28: As Ludwig von Mises said in 1961 to atheist serial adulterer and anarcho-capitalist novelist Ayn Rand: "So! You are the silly woman who believes that you can be free without God!" When von Mises finished with her, she never darkened the door of another conservative movement gathering and a good thing too since she did not belong.
I wonder how many babies died to raise that $248,000.
BTW, did I miss your defense of Lincoln as practicing his presidency in such a way as to advance smaller, less intrusive government and lower taxes???
And where do you fall in that mix?
BTW, did I miss your defense of Lincoln as practicing his presidency in such a way as to advance smaller, less intrusive government and lower taxes???
Well, if you insist then compared to Davis and his policies Lincoln did head the smaller, less intrusive government with lower taxes.
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