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Can Hillary Clinton win in 2008?
BBC NEWS ^ | Saturday, January 20, 2007 | Richard Allen Greene

Posted on 01/20/2007 9:18:45 PM PST by MinorityRepublican

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To: CTSeditor
She's done nothing for New York. Why would anyone expect more from her if she ran the country?

What a joke of a comment! Hillary got elected by New Yorkers in a LANDSLIDE.

81 posted on 01/21/2007 7:35:24 AM PST by Erik Latranyi (The Democratic Party will not exist in a few years....we are watching history unfold before us.)
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To: Blackirish

what's unreal is that posters here thing that "vince foster" and related issues, are the way to beat her. none of that is going to work, any voters concerned about those issues - are already voting against her.


82 posted on 01/21/2007 8:41:45 AM PST by oceanview
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To: MinorityRepublican
Hillary Clinton has finally announced that she is considering running for president in 2008 - a declaration anticipated for the past six years that puts a heavyweight contender into the race

The purpose of this article and more to follow---legitamize Hillary.

When she gets the nomination I'll be asking my liberal acquantances/friends where they stand on Hillary's election possibilities and I'll tell those who side with her, in very clear terms, that they are now my enemy, fwiw.

83 posted on 01/21/2007 8:47:26 AM PST by subterfuge (Today, Tolerance =greatest virtue;Hypocrisy=worst character defect; Discrimination =worst atrocity)
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To: oceanview

Our only chance of taking this thing back is by a Moderate candidate to counter the Democrats shift to the middle.

We have to fight fire with fire. We have no other choice.


84 posted on 01/21/2007 8:52:17 AM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP (Show me a 'true' Conservative and I'll show you someone with bad knees)
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To: IIntense
Hope you're wrong. Sure you do, also. But what if? Do we make like Alec Baldwim, for one, and "leave" the country?

I pray that I'm wrong!

Nope, I'll just BLOAT and watch and report. I'll try to remember, a loser like Jimmy Carter give us Ronald Reagan, so if the history repeats, we'll see a George Washington level statesmen return.

85 posted on 01/21/2007 9:35:46 AM PST by investigateworld (Abortion stops a beating heart)
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To: zwerni
. i know many republicans who would not vote for a candidate like guiliani. he is a social liberal.
If the republicans do not nominate a social conservative - IT'S OVER.

Well then it will be their fault if she wins .. we need those voters to stop her

I myself will vote for whoever the candidate is in the General Election

Our country cannot afford having Hellary and Bill back in the WH

86 posted on 01/21/2007 9:49:14 AM PST by Mo1 (Mrs. Bill Clinton - "We're going to take what you have and give it to others for the common good.")
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To: zwerni; oceanview
If the republicans do not nominate a social conservative - IT'S OVER.



In this election cycle there is not a social conservative with the star power, competence or charisma to take on Rudy or Romney.....much less Hillary or Obama

The social right should prolly just grow up and face the truth and get behind one of our guys.....but I doubt... it we will get all types of whining..foottstamping
...threats of 3rd parties ....sheeesh
87 posted on 01/21/2007 10:31:15 AM PST by Blackirish (David Dinkins:"Rudy as President is kind of frightening.My question will be, will I move to Bermuda")
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To: MinorityRepublican

People are tired of Bush/Clinton presidencies.

She could win, but I think that the Dems won't nominate her. They love Bill, but not Hillary. She picked a bad year to run. People want new faces/ideas - she's the establishment/Democrat elitist candidate..... She'd do herself a huge favor by staying in the Senate and building her legacy there. We really don't need two clintons in search of a legacy -


88 posted on 01/21/2007 1:23:06 PM PST by kcbc2001
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To: Erik Latranyi

That's strange because with the 'Rat total domination of all three branches of the government, they failed to institute Socialist Health Care in the United States back in '93.


89 posted on 01/21/2007 1:39:45 PM PST by MinorityRepublican (Everyone that doesn't like what America and President Bush has done for Iraq can all go to HELL)
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To: oceanview
yes, she can win.

Absolutely. I have no doubt she'll head the ticket with Obama as VP. She absolutely owns the left wing female demographic as well as most radical libs, and Obama will bring in the Black vote and plenty of fringers (including what is known as 'Reagan Democrats' and probably quite a few liberal Pubbies).

Get ready for a very bumpy ride. The Pubbies are like deer caught in the headlights with absolutely no overall strategy I can see to counter the Hillary threat. Our only hope is a moderate like Rudy (I have a problem with that) or a true conservative like Newt (and lots of single-issue 'conservatives' have a problem with that). What with media demonization and a split base, Newt probably can't be elected unless something in the dynamic changes.

The real problem is that there's no such thing as a "conservative vote." We're fractured into several segments that are often at war with each other -- you can see clear evidence of that right here on FR. We got a big taste of that in the past election, with predictable results. If we can't get a unified act together, I'm preparing for at least 8 years of hell on earth.

90 posted on 01/21/2007 1:47:55 PM PST by Bernard Marx
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To: MinorityRepublican

Gore/Obama will be the Rat ticket for 2008. Hillary will be humiliated in the primaries.


91 posted on 01/21/2007 1:53:27 PM PST by ZeitgeistSurfer (The Democrats solution is poison. When the patient is dying, their solution - more poison.)
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To: ZeitgeistSurfer

Al Gore haven't announced that he's running for President.


92 posted on 01/21/2007 2:11:48 PM PST by MinorityRepublican (Everyone that doesn't like what America and President Bush has done for Iraq can all go to HELL)
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To: tfelice
...conservatives...leave the GOP en masse...

My bags are packed. Whose going with me? And where?

93 posted on 01/21/2007 10:06:48 PM PST by IIntense
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To: Bernard Marx
We're fractured into several segments that are at war with each other...

True, if you mean Republicans in the White House and Congress have recklessly fractured the trust of conservative voters. Conservative Americans are united on most issues, IMO.

We've been hearing about the Democrats' lack of a plan for a few years, yet they now have the majority in Congress, thanks, in a big way, to our President. Some true conservatives became fed up with this administration and either stayed home or voted for another party.

George Bush won't be running in '08. What we need is a small miracle.

94 posted on 01/21/2007 10:50:05 PM PST by IIntense
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To: IIntense
Conservative Americans are united on most issues, IMO.

If we can't trust the President and Congressmen we elected to represent us, we're in a bad way. I think the one conservative who might stand a real chance is Newt. But I've seen him viciously savaged in this forum for his personal life. Romney really isn't a conservative and as much as I like Duncan Hunter I don't feel he has the national stature to win. I don't consider McCain a conservative: he's done us a lot of serious damage and I doubt I could ever vote for him. He'd make a deal with the Devil if it advanced him personally.

We're as fractured as the Dems were back in the 1970s. I see huge fault lines along such issues as illegal immigration and 'family values' (can we support a divorced candidate or one who has a moderate position on abortion or homosexuality?) The country clubbers (the ones who finance most Pubbie Congressmen) pursue a one-world agenda and ship jobs and entire industries overseas while opening the borders to low-paid illegals and possibly terrorists. Meanwhile other conservatives are losing their jobs to India and China.

The only consolation is that it's still almost two years to the election and lots can happen in that time. But Hillary's got tons of money, a cutthroat campaign organiazation -- and possibly a bunch of FBI files.

95 posted on 01/21/2007 11:38:33 PM PST by Bernard Marx
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