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Counter Protest March 17th, 2007 At the Wall

Posted on 02/01/2007 9:56:54 AM PST by 1stbn27

We are not going to allow this to happen if we have to stand 20 deep around the WALL.

This letter will be going all over the Internet...to all the major Veteran groups...please spread this far and wide.

This was posted on another group. In case you think it's of little importance, they are formimg up at THE WALL! In case you think these are a bunch of loonies with nothing better to do on St. Patrick\'s Day, think again. Here is a link to the groups involved (They are NOT the Boy Scouts) and to their website. Be sure to check out the t-shirts they are selling, especially the Che Guevera one. It is my opinion that it is time to plan a St. Patricks Day Road Trip, and Lock & Load, at least in the verbal sense and protect a very Sacred and Special Place. I am not saying we should express any opinion on the war, that is for each of us to decide.

What I am saying is how many of us want Jane Fonda, Cindy Sheehan, FMLN (Farabundo Marti National Liberation Front) USA, Vietnam Veterans Against the War Anti-Imperialist, Welfare Warriors, All India Anti-imperialist Forum, Muslim Student Association West, Berkeley Fellowship UU\'s Social Justice, Gay Liberation Network - Chicago; B. Ross Ashley co-founder Union of American Exiles-1968* Toronto, and hundreds of other far left, Anti American Organizations to use The Wall as a focal point for their own Private Agendas? Yes, we all served to protect their Freedom of Speech, but if their oblivious use of this Sacred Ground to garner more Media Coverage goes un-challenged, surely the Spirits of our Dead Brothers and Sisters on The Wall will cry out in pain.

PLEASE TAKE THE TIME TO READ THIS LIST! http://answer.pephost.org/site/News2?abbr=ANS_&page=NewsArticle&id=8137

March 17 -- March on Pentagon!: Time to Turn Up the Heat!

~ 40th anniversary of the historic 1967 march on the Pentagon ~ ~ 4th anniversary of the start of the Iraq war ~

On March 17, 2007, the 4th anniversary of the start of the criminal invasion of Iraq, tens of thousands of people from around the country will descend on the Pentagon in a mass demonstration to demand: U.S. Out of Iraq Now! 2007 is the 40th anniversary of the historic 1967 anti-war march to the Pentagon during the Vietnam War. The message of the 1967 march was \"From Protest to Resistance,\" and marked a turning point in the development of a countrywide mass movement.

In the coming days and weeks, thousands of organizations and individuals will begin mobilizing for the upcoming March on the Pentagon. Organizing committees and transportation centers are being established to bring people to the March on the Pentagon.

The March 17 demonstration will assemble at the Vietnam Veterans Memorial (Constitution Gardens) at 12 noon in Washington, D.C.and march to the Pentagon.

We can not allow this to happen!

ViperAsh50 Webmaster Viper's Vietnam Veterans Pages, A Vietnam Veteran & Proud Vietnam Veterans & Proud Site Ring Vietnam Veterans & Proud Groups@aol.com Wolfhounds on AOL Home Page Meet Viper Viper's Vietnam Veterans Pages Google ViperAsh50 Google Mary and Chuck Schantag P.O.W. Network www.pownetwork.org

Cold? Check out our POW/MIA sweatshirts! http://www.pownetwork.org/2007px/index.html

Semper Fidelis, Dane Brown USMC, 1/27, RVN68


TOPICS: Activism/Chapters; Government; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: americanpatriots; dishonor; gatheringofeagles; iraq; moonbats; opinfinitefreep; pgr; rally; rollingthunder; thewall; treason; vietnam; vietnammemorial
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To: RaceBannon

No leaving sick bay before your able. I'm sure as h3ll too far over the hill to try a fireman's carry with you. I don't care how lbs you've dropped.


21 posted on 02/01/2007 11:23:13 AM PST by Jimmy Valentine's brother (Jane Fonda was type cast in the movie "Klute")
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To: trooprally

Found Patriot Guard National Leadership contact info at the following link: http://www.patriotguard.org/LeadershipContacts/NationalLeadership/tabid/245/Default.aspx


22 posted on 02/01/2007 11:35:00 AM PST by JoyjoyfromNJ (Psalm 121)
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To: Jimmy Valentine's brother

Hopefully, it will be long enough after surgery I can drive and rent a wheelchair! :)

I'll find out after the monday meeting with the 2nd doctor


23 posted on 02/01/2007 11:51:36 AM PST by RaceBannon (Innocent until proven guilty: The Pendleton 8...down to 2...GWB, we hardly knew ye...)
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To: 1stbn27

Come on freepers. There were just 20 or so of us last weekend. We need you to come to DC for this!


24 posted on 02/01/2007 12:00:22 PM PST by YourAdHere (America's Freepers: The DC Chapter Needs You on Saturday March 17th!)
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To: 1stbn27
The DUmmies say that their 655K, or whatever, marchers on Washington last Saturday were countered by only 40 Freepers.
25 posted on 02/01/2007 12:09:14 PM PST by Blue State Insurgent (Those who know the truth need to speak out against these kinds of myths, and lies, and distortions..)
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To: Blue State Insurgent
A FReeper had someone inside and reported about 35k total. So a 40:35,000 ratio will have to be improved upon this March 17.

But we did get some air time, and Kristinn was on a local station. Better than previous FReeps.

[Mr] T
26 posted on 02/01/2007 12:48:33 PM PST by trooprally (Never Give Up - Never Give In - Remember Our Troops)
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To: trooprally

To all that have replied.....thanks, and I hope to see a bunch there.......I will pass this info around to all I know......

Semper Fi
Dane Brown
USMC, 1/27, RVN68


27 posted on 02/01/2007 1:00:12 PM PST by 1stbn27
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To: JoyjoyfromNJ

I saw these Patriot Guard guys at the last Veterans' Day Parade in NYC. Here they are at that parade. They were unbelievably impressive! And so many of them!

28 posted on 02/01/2007 2:40:28 PM PST by firebrand
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To: ViperAsh50

Those nimwits are also going to desecrate the Pentagon on that day (They want to try to levitate it again). They are trying to do double damage here


29 posted on 02/01/2007 3:15:04 PM PST by Thunder90
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To: 1stbn27; 2111USMC; 2nd Bn, 11th Mar; 68 grunt; A.A. Cunningham; ASOC; AirForceBrat23; Ajnin; ...

From Dane Brown USMC, 1/27, RVN68


30 posted on 02/01/2007 4:20:48 PM PST by freema (Marine FRiend, 1stCuz2xRemoved, Mom, Aunt, Sister, Friend, Wife, Daughter, Niece)
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To: 1stbn27

Okay, I'm gonna see what I can do to fly into D.C. St. Paddy's Day.

Semper Fi,
Kelly
"C" 1/5 1st Mar. Div.
'69-'70


31 posted on 02/01/2007 4:54:43 PM PST by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: kellynla

We need to get someone to coordinate all these efforts and organize. Get permits to use the grounds, PR, etc. See here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1777218/posts

LOCAL MEDIA IS KEY!

These other people have an organizational infrastructure dating forty -years and all they need do is pull the trigger to mobilize their troops ...They are a lot better at it than our side and we have a lot of catching up to do to counter them.

It's not how HARD you fight, but how SMART.

Someone take command and get hot!

Feel free to contact me to coordinate, brainstorm, recruit spokespersons for local/national media, etc.


32 posted on 02/01/2007 5:40:12 PM PST by InfantryMarine
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To: 1stbn27; InfantryMarine; kellynla; kristinn
There IS a committee of D.C. chapter members organizing things. It includes permits, pdf flyers, hotel info close to Metros, signs for that day, contacting Rolling Thunder, Patriot Guard, VFW and American Legion Posts, different Conservative/Republican organizations, and contacting the media.

IF ANYONE HAS PERSONAL 'INS' WITH OR CONTACT INFO TO ANY MEDIA OUTLETS, ORGANIZATIONS, TALK RADIO, please let Kristinn know.

Also, the main thread for is March 17 Information. Keep looking here.

Contact Kristinn for any details, but give us a little time to get more info.

[Mr] T

33 posted on 02/01/2007 6:02:43 PM PST by trooprally (Never Give Up - Never Give In - Remember Our Troops)
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To: InfantryMarine; trooprally

Thanks for the info & links!

Semper Fi,
Kelly


34 posted on 02/01/2007 6:29:23 PM PST by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: trooprally
Reply Mail from the National Park Service


Dear Sir:

I forwarded your E-mail attachment to the National Park Service employee and U.S. Park Police Sergeant who will be meeting with applicants for a public gathering permit for a large march/demonstration on 17 MAR 07. At this time, it is accurate to state that the National Park Service has issued no permit for any event starting at the Wall of the Vietnam Veterans Memorial, on that date. As I mentioned on the telephone, there are special regulations, found at Title 36, United States Code of Federal Regulations, Section 7.97, which protect core Vietnam Veterans Memorial areas and resources from such activities.

As my Supervisor directed, I have requested the National Park Service employee responsible for reviewing any public gathering permit application, as described above, to respond to the concerns you expressed on the telephone this morning,via E-mail. Thank you for your time.

Robert M. Healy, Jr.

Park Ranger, National Mall and Memorial Parks



In other words the website is lying they have not yet gotten a permit, now is the time to fight with the pen we must get this information out asap....people need to clog their Congressmen and Senators and the National Park Service with E-mails and phone calls! They can't be allowed to be anywhere near any Memorial! Thats what the streets are for the gutter and the garbage. Please forward this far and wide! Also this doesn't mean we shouldn't get as many Vietnam Veterans as possible to DC I remember another time long ago when WE needed America to support us and they didn't....we need to support our troops and their mission! ViperAsh50
35 posted on 02/01/2007 6:55:08 PM PST by ViperAsh50
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To: ViperAsh50
Constitution Gardens is the green space next to the Wall. Park Service does give permits for that area, but I think they take into consideration the size of a group when deciding whether to issue a permit. If the leftists have 35k people at their March 17th rally, the people will spill over into the Wall area, as will the noise from the usually huge sound system that cANSWER will have. In fact, the noise from their sound system and their throngs of America-hating speakers will likely spill over to the WWII and Korean War Memorials, as well.

cANSWER always gets permits for whatever they ask for. cANSWER has taken to "blanket permitting" all of downtown DC public spaces, to keep any counter protesters from getting a location near them. (Yes, this is the same thing that the leftists whined about for the 2005 Inaugural; that the Inaugural Committee had gotten all of DC and there was no place for "the people" to dissent)

cANSWER has a bunch of commie (yes, they are self admitted communists) lawyers who will make demands, who will declare that their rights are being violated, who will threaten lawsuits, in order to get that park space. And sadly, they will more than likely get it; respect for the names of the dead on the Wall be damned. The leftists are louder now than they have been in awhile. They know that the Wall is sacred ground to most Americans. This is their act of disrespect and hate towards our soldiers past and present, and towards our country.

It is probably a good idea to continue to spread the word among veterans about March 17th. cANSWER usually gets what they want in DC.

36 posted on 02/01/2007 8:14:10 PM PST by tgslTakoma
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To: ViperAsh50
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37 posted on 02/01/2007 8:19:23 PM PST by tgslTakoma
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To: tgslTakoma; ViperAsh50; kristinn
Takoma, thanks for addressing ViperAsh50 posts. And thank you ViperAsh50 for checking into it and bringing it to our attention.

If there is no permit yet given for this area, maybe Kristinn can get one.

[Mr] T
38 posted on 02/02/2007 4:26:30 AM PST by trooprally (Never Give Up - Never Give In - Remember Our Troops)
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To: trooprally

If you go over there, as just a single Veteran to visit your WALL, then you don't have to have a permit...I've gone to several of these, and ain't never worried about a permit...there is no law against, or permit needed for as many veterans as you want to, in order to go visit the wall....if there are organizations there with permits, and it makes you feel better or more legal, then I'm sure they will let you sign on with them.....in other words, don't let not having a permit stop you from being at "your" wall on March 17th.........


39 posted on 02/02/2007 7:01:43 AM PST by 1stbn27
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To: 1stbn27
Veterans, family and friends;

In response to the concerns expressed in the message below, I contacted Robin Owen (Person in charge of issuing event permits for the National Mall area) of the National park Service via telephone this morning and was very convincingly informed and assured of the following:

1.
There will be a 300 yard perimeter comprised of double snow fence barriers with an ample number mounted, foot police, riot reaction squad nearby, and intelligence personal on scene, to ensure that the conditions of the permit granted to the antiwar activists are not violated. E.G. the assembly point is in an appointed area on the eastern end of the grounds (Knoll) and will they will not be allowed in the proximity of the wall. A Similar exclusion zone applies area and approaches from Constitution Ave. So net effect ... no protesters within 300 yd's.

2.
That ALL laws will be vigorously enforced and prosecuted in terms of any violence, vandalism,or, threat to public safety. This was stated emphatically.

3.
About an hour later, I received a phone call from Sgt, Booker of the Park Police saying he had been asked by Robin Owen to reiterate the policy and to reinforce her statements to me and answer any further questions I may have on the Park Police law enforcement polices.

Sgt. Booker stated even MORE emphatically that the Park Police consider the Wall as sacred ground, as we do, (As did Robin Owen) themselves, and that they WILL enforce any, and all laws, relevant to it's integrity. And, any concerns we may have stemming from the non-enforcement of the law by the Capitol Police last weekend are not relevant to his Dept. They WILL arrest and prosecuted anyone who breaks the law.

4. The Wall will be open for visiting to the general public as usual ... if any of you care to do so on that day.

Semper Fi

Forwarded Message:
Subj: Veterans Mobilizing To Prevent Defiling Of VN Memorial By Antiwar Radicals
Date: 2/2/2007
10:27:36 A.M. Central Standard Time

Vietnam Vets Mobilizing To Form " Honor Guard" To Protect Wall From Dishonor

(It is hallowed ground to Vietnam Veterans -- Our war's collective headstone)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1777218/posts?page=46#comment

Counter Protest March 17th, 2007 At the Wall

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1777452/posts


Vietnam veterans are asking veterans, their families and friends, active duty military personal, as well as the like-minded public, to join us in emailing, calling, and writing, the National Park Service robbin_owen@nps.gov (1-202 619-7225) and Vietnam Memorial Fund vvmf@vvmf.org (202) 393-0090 Fax: (202) 393-0029 asking them to take any and all legal action to prohibit the planned anti-war demonstration on March 17, 2007 at,the Vietnam Veterans Memorial. Further, to demand that the appropriate law enforcement agencies stringently enforce the law as it pertains to defacement of public edifices, monuments, and property.

We are very concerned, in light of recent events, there will be a repetition of the vandalism that occurred at last weekend's antiwar protest has a real potential to reoccur at the upcoming event, and that the police again will be prevented from enforcing the law by their superiors. We will not allow the Vietnam War Memorial be vandalized, spray painted, or in any way be defaced, as was the U.S. Congress during last weekend's antiwar protest when police were ordered to retreat in the face of leftist radicals who defiled our nation's seat of government. If the police are similarly prevented in doing their job as they were in the case of the U.S. Congress, we veterans are more than willing and able to form a "human honor guard" (peacefully) to prevent a similar sacrilege to the nation's property and to what we consider hollowed ground, and our war's collective tombstone.

We do not object to public protest. Many of us have fought, bled, and died, to provide (and protect) the citizenry the right to free assembly.

We do however, strongly object the use of the Vietnam Veterans Memorial as a backdrop and stage for political gain. And, we take it as an affront to our fallen comrade-in-arms and to their honor that the antiwar movement's organizers and supporters would be so insensitive, inconsiderate, and boorish, as to even consider it as suitable location for political theater.

It is scared ground and should be considered as such.

This is a very emotional issue to many veterans and the potential for confrontation is very high. In the interest of the sensitivities of the veterans and that of public safety and good order, we ask the you to use your good offices and influence to convince antiwar movement's organizers to reconsider their choice of assembly point, and relocate it to a less emotionally charged area.
40 posted on 02/02/2007 10:38:41 AM PST by InfantryMarine
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