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No Escape: Male Rape In U.S. Prisons
Human Rights Watch ^ | 2007.02.12 | Joanne Mariner

Posted on 02/12/2007 11:22:29 AM PST by B-Chan

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To: B-Chan

I have always stated that a prisoner has no rights except the right not to be raped while incarcerated.

We have to realise that these animals who perform these rapes are less than human.

These people who rape these other prisoners do not consider themselves as homosexuals. They are just animals who dont care what they have sex with. If there were other animals around they would have sex with them. These are the people that Democrats want to give the vote to.

This is an abomination. As I stated before . television, weight lifting basketball,a law library, a prisoner isnt entitled to any of these IMO. But a prisoner is entitled to serve his time without being molested either individually or in gangs. If the guards cant stop it then they should lock down the prison until they can. Male rape is a killing offense as far as I am concerned, any man who kills a person who raped him would not be convicted by me.



161 posted on 02/12/2007 12:14:46 PM PST by sgtbono2002 (I will forgive Jane Fonda, when the Jews forgive Hitler.)
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To: ArrogantBustard
Posted by Arrogant Bustard:

1) When we incarcerate folks, we assume responsibility for their safety. Like it or not, like them or not. Since no jurisdiction in these United States statutorily imposes rape as a punishment for any crime, we have a responsibility to ensure that our prisoners are not the victims of rape.
2) Prison is supposed to be a punishment, not a playground for violent perverts. When we allow prisoners to engage in serial rape, we are failing in our duty to impose on them the punishment prescribed for their crimes. The inmates are NOT supposed to be running the institution.

Pretty much says it all, IMO.

162 posted on 02/12/2007 12:15:30 PM PST by Sans-Culotte ("Thanks, Tom DeLay, for practically giving me your seat"-Nick Lampson)
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To: ArrogantBustard
the State has an obligation to ensure that you are not beaten, raped, or murdered while in its custody.

Right. For Pete's sake they'll swab your arm before they give you the lethal injection to make sure you don't get an infection but they won't keep you from getting another kind of injection if you're not on death row?

163 posted on 02/12/2007 12:16:06 PM PST by ichabod1 ("Liberals read Karl Marx. Conservatives UNDERSTAND Karl Marx." Ronald Reagan)
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To: B-Chan

Prison rape is a scandal. Politicians do not act on this because there is little political hay to be made from telling constituents that they are "experts in prison rape."


164 posted on 02/12/2007 12:17:58 PM PST by Zack Nguyen
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To: krb; MeanWestTexan
You are very wrong.

If I'm wrong and it's very easy for 100% innocent people to be sent to prison please prove that. If a large number of people in prison are innocent then something needs to be done about that. So please, show me how I'm wrong.

165 posted on 02/12/2007 12:18:41 PM PST by isthisnickcool (I own your children! ---RICK PERRY)
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To: B-Chan

I used to be in a prison ministry band.

If I ever found myself at risk of going to prison, I would consider living on the street in Mexico City, unable to speak spanish, to be a better fate.

If you get my drift...


166 posted on 02/12/2007 12:18:46 PM PST by RobRoy (Islam is a greater threat to the world today than Nazism was in 1938.)
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To: B-Chan

Everyone knows that this goes on. It is not stopped. Therefore the authorities consent to it.
The courts do not explicitely sentence anyone to 5 years of rape in prison. However it is an unavoidable consequence of being in prison. Therefore the courts sentence people to rape in prison and consent to it.

If indeed rape in prison is the intention and purpose of sentencing, as a few posters' comments indicate, then it must be put into the law explicitly. To do what is done now is cowardly and the entire criminal justice system is complicit.


167 posted on 02/12/2007 12:19:14 PM PST by Leftism is Mentally Deranged
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To: norge
Personally, I'd consider quitting the booze.

Yes, he should quit the booze, but the inmate was sentenced to jail, not continual forced homosexual sodomy. It is unjust what happens in prisons, and Americans should care more.

168 posted on 02/12/2007 12:19:22 PM PST by Zack Nguyen
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To: John Williams
8"x8" cells. No personal effects. Toilet and concrete cot, only.

8-inch by 8-inch cells?

Man, you'd be one tough warden ;-)

169 posted on 02/12/2007 12:20:02 PM PST by CT-Freeper (Said the perpetually dejected Mets (and, yes, sometimes Jets) fan.)
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To: isthisnickcool

>>The part in bold may be one of the dumber things I've ever seen posted here.<<

Actually, it is a very accurate statement. Odds are you won't be, but odds are you won't be killed in a car accident either. It's just about as preventable.


170 posted on 02/12/2007 12:20:18 PM PST by RobRoy (Islam is a greater threat to the world today than Nazism was in 1938.)
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To: EndWelfareToday

Just like the Duke Boys.

Wake Up Folks and think before you post.


171 posted on 02/12/2007 12:20:19 PM PST by roofgoat
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To: isthisnickcool; beaureguard
"Is is possible for innocent people to be jailed? Yep! Is it "very easy"? Nope. If it was most people in jail would be innocent. "

Depends on the prosecutor.

"Again, it was a dumb thing to say."

No it wasn't a dumb thing to say. He gave an example of what happens. Note the words "very easy", refers to process, not quantity. Next time, don't be so stupid.

172 posted on 02/12/2007 12:20:46 PM PST by spunkets ("Freedom is about authority", Rudy Giuliani)
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To: B-Chan
Easy to say from the safety of your comfy computer chair.

Not at all. Survival isn't the most important thing. I am not afraid of death. I enlisted in the Marine Corps. Living and dying as a man of God is the most important thing. If they are able to overcome me and kill me, so be it. If some of them are killed in the struggle, then we'll be heading different directions on our way to eternity. I know which direction I am going.

173 posted on 02/12/2007 12:21:10 PM PST by MovementConservative (The US will win in Iraq. Thank you all US troops.)
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To: John Williams

>>Make solitary confinement mandatory for the vast majority of prisoners. <<

Or at least offer it.


174 posted on 02/12/2007 12:21:12 PM PST by RobRoy (Islam is a greater threat to the world today than Nazism was in 1938.)
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To: EndWelfareToday

>>Solution?

Don't violate the law. Don't get thrown in prison.<<

Not always.


175 posted on 02/12/2007 12:21:55 PM PST by RobRoy (Islam is a greater threat to the world today than Nazism was in 1938.)
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To: isthisnickcool

it is very easy to end up in slam in the United States, even if you're 100% innocent.

Happened to a friend ,,by trumped up charges brought on by a vindictive,coniving female..

The Man will pay for the rest of his Life...so don't tell us here that it can't happen..!


176 posted on 02/12/2007 12:21:57 PM PST by silentreignofheroes (When the Last Two Prophets are taken there will be no Tommorrow!)
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To: B-Chan

bingo!


177 posted on 02/12/2007 12:22:38 PM PST by DreamsofPolycarp
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To: P-40

When we "don't give a damn" the results that accrue are results we agree with, by default, because "we don't give a damn".

All criminals deserve just punishment and I have no sympathy for complaints against a just punishment. Rape is not a just punishment. I cannot condone it or stand back and not complain about it nor stand lacking in sympathy and compassion for those abused by rape in prison. Maybe you believe rape is their due just because they are in prison. I do not find anything rational, conservative or moral in that position.


178 posted on 02/12/2007 12:24:39 PM PST by Wuli
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To: ksen

Nope, he didn't deserve to be gang raped BUT!!! Drinking and driving is premeditated murder. If you get home without killing someone then you are lucky but it will catch up with you one day. It's a VERY serious crime, one of the more callous, in my opinion.


179 posted on 02/12/2007 12:24:39 PM PST by mpackard (Proud mama of a Sailor.)
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To: P-40

Ditto.


180 posted on 02/12/2007 12:25:36 PM PST by Theo (Global warming "scientists." Pro-evolution "scientists." They're both wrong.)
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