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Living Wage vs. Minimum Wage
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Posted on 02/15/2007 10:16:06 AM PST by hophead

Living Wage vs. Minimum Wage (November 1, 2006): “With all of the debate recently over raising the minimum wage, more needs to be said about requiring employers to pay a ‘living wage.’ … A living wage is considered to be a rate of pay for a 40-hour week that allows the wage earner to afford ‘housing, food, utilities, transport, health care and a certain amount of recreation.’"


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KEYWORDS: livingwage; minimumwage
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Sounds like the wage someone would earn if they stayed in and finished high school.

I like the "certain amount of recreation" part. I guess that means $150 Air Jordans and a Playstation2.

1 posted on 02/15/2007 10:16:09 AM PST by hophead
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To: hophead
Minimum employability is more like it!
2 posted on 02/15/2007 10:18:47 AM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran ("Remember the Alamo, Goliad and WACO, It is Time for a new San Jacinto")
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shuuush...common sense has no place in the agenda


3 posted on 02/15/2007 10:19:02 AM PST by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated)
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Living wage? You've gotta do more than just live. In order to have the capacity to enjoy life, you've gotta earn an "enjoyable living wage."


4 posted on 02/15/2007 10:21:08 AM PST by Brilliant
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I'm fine with all that:

Move to an unfashionable neighborhood of an unfashionable town.
Find a roommate.
Share an apartment near the busline.
Sell your car.
Shop at Goodwill.
Get a job or two.
Don't procreate.
Learn to cook your own meals from "ingredients" (see Goodwill for cookbook, pots and pans).
Enjoy your recreation at public parks and libraries.
When you get tired of this, develop skills, attitude, and experience that make you worth more to an employer.

$5 an hour is enough, and you can even buy your own health and disability insurance.
5 posted on 02/15/2007 10:22:23 AM PST by Atlas Sneezed (Your FRiendly FReeper Patent Attorney)
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I guess they want our economy to mimick France. Economic idiots, one and all....

Why are schools required to teach sex ed, but not economics?


6 posted on 02/15/2007 10:23:24 AM PST by CSM (We're not losing our country, some are just throwing it away. - Sherri-D)
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To: Doogle
shuuush...common sense has no place in the agenda

tag line for sale

accepting bids

Doogle

7 posted on 02/15/2007 10:23:34 AM PST by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated)
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To each according to his need, from each according to his ability.

Nuttin like a little dose of communism to start your heart.

I'm going to take those profits and....................

8 posted on 02/15/2007 10:23:49 AM PST by USS Alaska (Nuke the terrorist savages - In Honor of Standing Wolf)
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I like the "certain amount of recreation" part. I guess that means $150 Air Jordans and a Playstation2.

Playstation 3 --- don't forget some games to get with it.

9 posted on 02/15/2007 10:24:32 AM PST by PetroniDE (We Don't Live in Texas Anymore --- State Name is Now TAXES !!)
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To: USS Alaska

eeyep


10 posted on 02/15/2007 10:26:46 AM PST by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated)
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I like the idea of a "Maximun Yearly Wage" so that there are more jobs and everybody makes the same. For example, if the MYW is $100,000, then Bill Gates works for approximately 2 hours a year. Then someone else steps in to do that job.
A factory worker would be available to work the whole year, unless he gets Bill Gates' job for a couple of hours.


11 posted on 02/15/2007 10:30:19 AM PST by irishtenor (Save the whales. Collect the whole set.)
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How is it the government's role to tell an employer what he must pay a worker? I feel the "minimum wage" laws are unconstitutional and should be struck down by the Supreme Court.


12 posted on 02/15/2007 11:06:03 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (Haley Barbour/John Bolton 2008)
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This would work fine if they also mandate a living profit for employers.

If an employer loses money paying his workers a living wage, the federal, state and local governments would pay that employer an earned income tax credit that would come out of those government's tax revenues.

What's good for the goose...

13 posted on 02/15/2007 11:11:19 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam is a religion of peace, and Muslims reserve the right to kill anyone who says otherwise.)
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"I'm going to take those profits and...................."


Watch out. YOUR property is next. Thats what "profits" are, property. That is a good indication of sHillary's world, property is not yours but the "villages".
14 posted on 02/15/2007 11:15:48 AM PST by hophead ( "Enjoy Every Sandwich")
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$5 an hour is enough, and you can even buy your own health and disability insurance.

You must be kidding or you have not priced insurance. 5.00 hr is 800.00 a month. Not even close to cover a living with complete insurance.

15 posted on 02/15/2007 12:12:13 PM PST by Orange1998
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"I like the "certain amount of recreation" part. I guess that means $150 Air Jordans and a Playstation2."

I would say the occasional CD, DVD, movie ticket, etc.


16 posted on 02/15/2007 12:26:42 PM PST by YoungAmerican84 (Honorary member of the World Zionist Conspiracy)
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If you can't find it in your power to advance beyond minimum wage you have a lot more than housing, food, clothing and recreation to worry about!


17 posted on 02/15/2007 12:39:20 PM PST by AmericanChef
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$5 an hour is enough, and you can even buy your own health and disability insurance.

You must be kidding or you have not priced insurance. 5.00 hr is 800.00 a month. Not even close to cover a living with complete insurance.



Nonsense. Insurance for the typical minimum wage earner (young and healthy) is under $100/month. That leaves $250 to share the rent, $100 for food, and $350 more for all the rest.

Plus, he can get another job.


18 posted on 02/15/2007 1:29:50 PM PST by Atlas Sneezed (Your FRiendly FReeper Patent Attorney)
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"If you can't find it in your power to advance beyond minimum wage you have a lot more than housing, food, clothing and recreation to worry about!"

Bingo!!!


19 posted on 02/15/2007 1:53:03 PM PST by hophead ( "Enjoy Every Sandwich")
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If a kid came into your store and said "I want to be a grocery-bagger for the rest of my life." You wouldn't hire him.

If a career can-stacker proposed marriage to you, you would reject him.

Why do we need to give a living wage to part-time, temporary, and extra-income employment?

20 posted on 02/15/2007 1:59:01 PM PST by Blogatron (I pitty the devil when hippies start arriving in bunches.)
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