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Family in Bosnia describes Utah gunman as child of war and upheaval
Santa Barbara News-Press & AP ^ | 15 Februrary 2007 | ALMIR ARNAUT

Posted on 02/17/2007 2:33:38 PM PST by NraFreedom

Family in Bosnia describes Utah gunman as child of war and upheaval

ALMIR ARNAUT, Associated Press Writer

February 15, 2007 12:23 PM

TALOVICI, Bosnia-Herzegovina (AP) - Relatives of the Bosnian teen who shot and killed five people in a Salt Lake City mall said the boy's early life was marked by war and upheaval: The family fled Serb forces on foot when he was 4 and his grandfather was killed in the war. Sulejman Talovic was a toddler when fighting broke out in Bosnia in 1992. Serb troops laid siege to the hamlet of Talovici in northeastern Bosnia, bombing it for a year before overrunning his home village in March 1993. ''We were besieged and bombed day and night. We couldn't stick our noses out of the house,'' Talovic's cousin, Redzo Talovic, 59, recalled Thursday.

''At first we all hid from the shells, but later we gave up on life, didn't care and started coming out. That's how ... the shelling killed 20 people in the village,'' he said.

Young Sulejman, his three siblings, his mother Sabira and grandfather made the difficult journey on foot to Srebrenica, while his father, Suljo, hid in the mountains with other men from the village, relatives said.

''Many left the village, only a few made it,'' said Murat Avdic, 54, a family friend.

(Excerpt) Read more at newspress.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; US: Utah; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: allahuakbar; bosnia; mall; poorwiddlemurderer; saltlake; suddenjihadsyndrome; terrorist; trolley; utah; wot
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1 posted on 02/17/2007 2:33:40 PM PST by NraFreedom
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To: NraFreedom

I dont care.


2 posted on 02/17/2007 2:38:44 PM PST by JOHANNES801 (I have no tag line, cause I say nasty things.)
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To: NraFreedom

The kid is still a murderer.


3 posted on 02/17/2007 2:43:18 PM PST by Ken522
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To: All
ON THE NET...

KSL.com: "FATHER OF SHOOTER BELIEVES SOMEONE TOLD HIS SON TO KILL PEOPLE" (February 16, 2007, 12:49 pm)

SALT LAKE TRIBUNE: "TROLLEY KILLER HAD VIOLENT JUVENILE HISTORY" by Stephen Hunt and Brent Israelsen (Last updated February 15, 2007, 6:20:05 PM MST)

LittleGreenFootballs.com - "SALT LAKE CITY KILLER'S RECORDS RELEASED" (February 15, 2007)

Media.www.USISHIELD.com (AP): "GUNMAN KILLS 5 AT SALT LAKE CITY MALL" (ARTICLE SNIPPET: "The card store Cabin Fever had been packed with Valentine's Day shoppers Monday night when the shooting started, store owner David Dean said. Dean said his assistant manager called him, saying "someone's in the store killing people." The place was "all shot up," Dean said. He said three or four of the victims were shot inside.") (February 15, 2007)

LiveLeak.com: "DRAMATIC HOME VIDEO SHOWS UTAH MALL RAMPAGE"

JIHAD WATCH.org: "DESERET MORNING NEWS HITS 'ULTRACONSERVATIVE' WEBSITES FOR SUGGESTING SALT LAKE SHOOTING WAS JIHAD-MOTIVATED" (February 15, 2007)

JIHAD WATCH.org (BISMARCK TRIBUNE): Salt Lake City - "FBI: NO REASON TO BELIEVE SALT LAKE MALL SHOOTER WAS MOTIVATED BY RELIGIOUS EXTREMISM OR TERRORISM" (February 14, 2007)

KUTV.com: "FULL COVERAGE OF THE TERROR AT TROLLEY SQUARE" (Febuary 14, 2007, 9:48 pm US/Mountain)

CNN.com: "UTAH MALL GUNMAN WAS SREBRENICA SURVIVOR, COUSIN SAYS" (February 14, 2007, 11:59 p.m.)

FRONTPAGE MAGAZINE: "SALT LAKE JIHAD?" by Robert Spencer (February 15, 2007)

SLTRIB.com: "TROLLEY SQUARE: SUSPECT RARELY SEEN BY HIS NEIGHBORS A high school drop-out, Talovic's life and motive for the shooting remain a mystery" by Matthew D. LaPlante (ARTICLE SNIPPET: "Police say the gunman met his first two victims in the parking lot, firing off two rounds as they fell. "Die, motherf-----," Talovic said to them, according to one witness. Talovic appears to have uttered few further words. Witnesses said he moved deliberately through the ground floor corridors, firing round after round at helpless others, sometimes swearing, sometimes ordering his victims not to look at him. In seemingly random fashion, showing no emotion, he slaughtered five people and seriously wounded four others.") (Last updated February 14, 2007, 01:29 AM MST)
DESERET NEWS.com: "6 MINUTES OF HORROR: SHOOTER AIMED TO KILL AS MANY AS HE COULD" by Pat Reavy and Ben Winslow (ARTICLE SNIPPET: ""His intent was to shoot as many people as he possibly could," said Salt Lake City Police Chief Chris Burbank. Police released details Tuesday on Talovic's shooting rampage that left five people dead before off-duty Ogden police officer Ken Hammond and four Salt Lake City police officers killed him in "a shootout," Burbank said. Four other shooting victims are hospitalized. Talovic was armed with a shotgun, a .38-caliber handgun and "a backpack full of ammunition," Burbank said. Around the man's waist was a bandolier of shotgun shells. "He had a pump shotgun," said one witness, DeEtta Barta. "He was shooting, and he shot about four shots.") (February 14, 2007)
WorldNetDaily.com: "UTAH GUNMAN, 18, WAS MUSLIM FROM BOSNIA" (ARTICLE SNIPPET: "David Dean, who owns a greeting-card store at the mall, said three or four people died inside his store, which was packed with Valentine's Day shoppers.")(February 13, 2007)

JIHAD WATCH.org (AP): "SALT LAKE CITY: BOSNIAN TEEN WANTED 'TO KILL A LARGE NUMBER OF PEOPLE'" (February 13, 2007)

LittleGreenFootballs.com - weblog: "SALT LAKE CITY KILLER IDENTIFIED Sudden jihad syndrome?" (February 13, 2007)

Google - Search News: "SULEJMAN TALOVIC"

4 posted on 02/17/2007 2:45:02 PM PST by Cindy
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ADDING 1 more link to post no. 4:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1777773/posts?page=916#916


5 posted on 02/17/2007 2:47:01 PM PST by Cindy
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To: Ken522

...and he did it in the name of Allah.

Information for any that wish to help the grieving families and those injured in this tragedy:

* Zions Bank has established two accounts, one in injured mother Carolyn Tuft's name and the other in her 15-year-old daughter's name, Kirsten Hinckley, a Brighton High sophomore who died. Donations can be made at any Utah branch.

* Zions Bank also has created a fund for injured A.J. Walker, 16. Donations may be made in care of his mother, Vickie Walker.

* To honor victim Vanessa Antrobus Quinn, a scholarship fund has been created. Donations can be made to the Vanessa Quinn Memorial, account No. 9031592, accepted at any America First Credit Union branch; or c/o Eagle Savings, 6415 Bridgetown Rd., Cincinnati, OH 45248. Checks should be made to: Eagle Savings/Vanessa Antrobus Quinn Scholarship Fund.

* Chase Bank, where Teresa Blair Ellis worked as an assistant manager in the West Valley City branch, has set up a memorial fund to be directed by her family. Donations can be made at any branch office in her name.

* The family of Brad Frantz has set up a trust fund for his 3-year-old daughter, Deijah Isabel O'Neill. Donations, which should be made using the child's full name, can be made at any U.S. Bank branch.

* A fund has been established to help defray medical expenses of Stacy Hanson, who was critically injured in the Trolley Square shootings. To contribute to the fund, which is under Hanson's name, contact Zions Bank.

* Wells Fargo Bank has established the Trolley Square Memorial Fund to benefit the families of all of the shooting victims. Donations can be made at any Utah branch.

...please pass along this information to all that wish to help...and let us pray for them and their lost beloved.


6 posted on 02/17/2007 2:47:16 PM PST by Serb29 ("Fear can only prevail when victims are ignorant of the facts ". - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Ken522; JOHANNES801; All

I do not disagree. Pls see:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1785432/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1785599/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1785707/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1786291/posts

Have a great day: And, Here is to getting the word out to the average American Joe.


7 posted on 02/17/2007 3:14:05 PM PST by NraFreedom (Mr. Clinton, and John Kerry, should be charged, convicted and shot for the crime of Treason.)
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To: Serb29

Thank you for posting that information: It is really needed here, because the victims are the ones we should be focusing on.


8 posted on 02/17/2007 3:16:43 PM PST by NraFreedom (Mr. Clinton, and John Kerry, should be charged, convicted and shot for the crime of Treason.)
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To: NraFreedom
''I'm convinced the war did this,'' Avdic said of the rampage in Utah. ''There cannot be any other reason.''

To Avdic and all other meatheads out there, I have another theory: He did it because he is a member of a death cult. Get three of them together and soon they are saying "Death to this!" or "Death to that!". Read the Koran and find, "Kill them wherever you find them"; listen to Muslim theorists and hear them justify indiscriminate killing of Americans and Jews, calling them part of the military they are fighting. Irrationality, fanaticism and bloodlust -- a lethal combination if there ever was one; and it's being played out on a daily basis all around the world.

9 posted on 02/17/2007 3:17:31 PM PST by Migraine (...diversity is great (until it happens to you)...)
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To: NraFreedom; All

Anyone notice the last name of the terrorist (Talovic) and the name of the town in Bosnia he grew up in???


11 posted on 02/17/2007 3:18:46 PM PST by NraFreedom (Mr. Clinton, and John Kerry, should be charged, convicted and shot for the crime of Treason.)
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To: angcat

Thanks for the ping angcat.
I appreciate it.

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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1777773/posts?page=915#915


12 posted on 02/17/2007 3:28:46 PM PST by Cindy
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To: Cindy

My pleasure Cindy!


13 posted on 02/17/2007 3:31:17 PM PST by angcat ("IF YOU DON'T STAND BEHIND OUR TROOPS, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO STAND IN FRONT OF THEM")
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To: NraFreedom

The title you created had to be changed to the original published title.

Please do not alter titles.


14 posted on 02/17/2007 3:57:15 PM PST by Admin Moderator
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To: angcat
The article you posted without a link was from Journal News, which is a Gannett site. Gannett Publications has requested that Free Republic allow only a title and a link to be posted for any of their published material.

Updated FR Excerpt and Link Only or Deny Posting List due to Copyright Complaints

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15 posted on 02/17/2007 4:05:20 PM PST by Admin Moderator
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I realized that after I posted it! Sorry!

Thanks!


16 posted on 02/17/2007 4:42:03 PM PST by angcat ("IF YOU DON'T STAND BEHIND OUR TROOPS, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO STAND IN FRONT OF THEM")
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To: NraFreedom

Soooooo. he decided to kill a bunch of innocent Mormons who nevr did anything to him. Yeah, that sounds logical. I'm sure Allah told him to do it too. This may be one case where I'm not expecting the genocidal psychopath to NOT be on anti-depressants like all of the other ones are who shoot up schools or officebuildings. This guy was just high on Islam and fighting off the Crusaders.


17 posted on 02/17/2007 4:42:49 PM PST by bpjam (Never Give Up, Never Surrender (Unless James Baker gives you permission))
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To: NraFreedom
Cry me a river.

the boy's early life was marked by war and upheaval: The family fled Serb forces on foot when he was 4 and his grandfather was killed in the war. Sulejman Talovic was a toddler when fighting broke out in Bosnia in 1992. Serb troops laid siege to the hamlet of Talovici in northeastern Bosnia, bombing it for a year before overrunning his home village in March 1993. ''We were besieged and bombed day and night. We couldn't stick our noses out of the house,'' Talovic's cousin, Redzo Talovic, 59, recalled Thursday.

My sister in law & her sisters, at the same age, hid under beds & haystacks from Red Chinese troops, before her family was able to flee China to Maylasia.

Her Chinese-American nieces recently graduated from universities. Her uncle is an emeritus professor of medicine at Stanford. She earned her MLS, and recently retired from NASA as a research librarian. Other close relatives are rather well-to-do plantation owners in Maylasia.

All of them are Christian; none of them are violent, let alone murderers.

The same fire that refines gold, destroys dross, and it is not any fault of the fire.

18 posted on 02/17/2007 4:47:49 PM PST by ApplegateRanch (Islam: a Satanically Transmitted Disease, spread by unprotected intimate contact with the Koranus.)
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To: Cindy

Thanks for the link. That boy ain't right.


19 posted on 02/17/2007 6:21:44 PM PST by Ptarmigan (Ptarmigans will rise again!)
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Well yes. But main stream media PC drivel aside, the relevant fact is that he is a child of Islam. He was just doing what they do.


20 posted on 02/17/2007 8:40:01 PM PST by Godwin1
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