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Ron Paul, the Real Republican? (Announcing the Great Ron Paul Ping List)
Fox News ^ | February 20, 2007 | Radley Balko

Posted on 02/20/2007 8:59:49 AM PST by OrthodoxPresbyterian

Ron Paul, the Real Republican?

Tuesday, February 20, 2007
By Radley Balko

When you read about a vote in Congress that goes something like 412-1, odds are pretty good that the sole "nay" came from Rep. Ron Paul, R-Texas. He so consistently votes against widely popular bills, in fact, that the Washington Post recently gave him the moniker "Congressman 'No.'"

Paul isn't a reflexive contrarian--he doesn't oppose just to oppose. Rather, he has a core set of principles that guide him. They happen to be the same principles envisioned by the framers of the U.S. Constitution: limited government, federalism, free trade and commerce -- with a premium on peace.

When most members of Congress see a bill for the first time, they immediately judge the bill on its merits, or if you're more cynical, they determine what the political interests that support them will think of it, or how it might benefit their constituents.

For Paul, the vast majority of bills don't get that far. He first asks, "Does the Constitution authorize Congress to pass this law?" Most of the time, the answer to that question is "no." And so Paul votes accordingly.

This hasn't won him many friends in Congress, or, for that matter, his own party. It hasn't won him influential committee assignments or powerful chairmanships, either. Those are generally handed out to the party animals who vote as they're told. An incorruptible man of principle in a corrupt body almost utterly devoid of principle, Paul is often a caucus of one.

Paul recently announced his intentions to run for president in 2008. For the few of us who still care about limited government, individual rights, and a sensible foreign policy, Paul's candidacy is terrific news....Continue reading

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To: capt. norm; Austin Willard Wright
Now that Saddam Hussein is DEAD, do you believe that the Federal Government should spend hundreds of billions of dollars and thousands of American Lives to provide military and financial support to a Government dominated by convicted Islamic Terrorists who attacked our Embassies and murdered hundreds of United States Marines in cold blood? ~~ YES!

So you SUPPORT spending hundreds of billions of dollars and thousands of American Lives to provide military and financial support to a Government dominated by convicted Islamic Terrorists who attacked our Embassies and murdered hundreds of United States Marines in cold blood.

I'm glad we cleared that up.

101 posted on 02/20/2007 9:36:15 AM PST by OrthodoxPresbyterian (We are Unworthy Servants; We have only done Our Duty -- Luke 17:10)
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To: pissant

"Ron Paul would get us killed."

And every Jew in Israel.

And every Kurd in Iraq.

And anyone else who ever put their trust in the USA.

He's advocacy of cut-and-run in Lebanon (he's part of the cabal that pressured Reagan to retreat) is still causing the death of Christians there, as the Islamists take over.


102 posted on 02/20/2007 9:36:21 AM PST by MeanWestTexan (Kol Hakavod Lezahal)
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To: Austin Willard Wright
So you think that Hannity and Rush are "traitorous cowards" because of their stand on Kosovo?

(1) I have no idea what their stand on Kosovo was or is. I know exactly what Ron Paul's stand is.

(2) Hannity and Rush are just entertainers - Ron Paul is a Congressman. He actually has power to influence outcomes. I'm not sure what Hannity and Rush have ever actually done to be traitors - I know exactly what actions Ron Paul has actually undertaken to betray his country's armed forces.

103 posted on 02/20/2007 9:37:16 AM PST by wideawake
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To: MeanWestTexan

I'm getting confused. Who are our enemies, the secular Ba'athists who hate both Iran and the Saudi Wahhabists, or the Islamic fundamentalist Shi'ite majority, who are Iranian allies? The Bush administration rode into this war with staunch Iranian ally Ahmed Chalabi, and after deposing the Saddam regime, handed power to the Shi'ites. It now seems that policy is coming back to bite them.

The solution would appear to be allowing Kurdistan to complete its secession process and installing a Sunni Ba'athist strongman in Baghdad to keep a lid on the Shia and be a counterweight to Iranian attempts to dominate the region. Unfortunately, the best candidate for the job was recently executed.

It is a complicated matter, and putting more boots on the ground to kick in doors and play roadside bomb-lottery is one-dimensional thinking.


104 posted on 02/20/2007 9:37:58 AM PST by SteamshipTime
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To: M203M4
Within US borders, Ron Paul is exactly what America needs. On the other hand, his foreign policy views, for all matters other than trade, are not my own. Not wanting to start wars is one thing. What to do once we are knee-deep is another.

I understand your position, but the elected Iraqi Government is now a Government dominated by convicted Islamic Terrorists who attacked our Embassies and murdered hundreds of United States Marines in cold blood.

"Democracies" who elect mass-murdering Terrorists to Majority Government Power are not worthy of our continued support.

105 posted on 02/20/2007 9:38:29 AM PST by OrthodoxPresbyterian (We are Unworthy Servants; We have only done Our Duty -- Luke 17:10)
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian

the Real Republican?



Only when it serves his purpose of being elected to a CD seat. Otherwise if he was true to his beliefs he'd be over with the Libertarians. You know the party he joined after he resigned from the Republican Party to run for President. It was only after his overwhelming defeat that he decided he'd come back and join the Republican Party again so he could get elected back to Congress....

A real Republican he's not and never will be.


106 posted on 02/20/2007 9:39:59 AM PST by deport ( Cue Spooky Music...)
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To: MeanWestTexan; OrthodoxPresbyterian

Yes those are the right questions.

Ron Paul would abandon the many Iraqis like this one;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HzLnMk-bO8w

Do you agree, yes or no?

OrthodoxPresbyterian, watch the clip before you answer and then explain how you can say yes.


107 posted on 02/20/2007 9:40:12 AM PST by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marylin vos Savant)
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To: deport
I wonder the same thing about Paul. We don't have a lot of personal contact with the folks in his district anymore, even though we own property in Brazoria County. I just remember him from his first political days. He was a loon and I haven't seen anything about him to make me change my mind. It was almost completely a southern democrat area when we lived there, there were NO Republicans on the local ballot, ever. Still is a semi rural, small town, blue collar area. He was a local gynecologist/obstetrician (I think), very well liked, when he first ran for office.
108 posted on 02/20/2007 9:40:14 AM PST by Ditter
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian

Ron is a nutty politician. Most people in Teas would not support him for PRez.


109 posted on 02/20/2007 9:40:30 AM PST by TexanToTheCore (If it ain't Rugby or Bullriding, it's for girls.........................................)
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To: MeanWestTexan
I don't lie. I've provided documented evidence for every one of my statements regarding the Government of Iraq.

You have not. Answer the Question.

110 posted on 02/20/2007 9:40:35 AM PST by OrthodoxPresbyterian (We are Unworthy Servants; We have only done Our Duty -- Luke 17:10)
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian
the elected Iraqi Government is now a Government dominated by convicted Islamic Terrorists

You continually repeat this lie without documenting your claim.

111 posted on 02/20/2007 9:40:40 AM PST by wideawake
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian

Ron Paul turned his backs on our troops. I will therefore turn my back on him.


112 posted on 02/20/2007 9:40:48 AM PST by mort56
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To: SteamshipTime

The politics are complex, and I would favor a much stronger approach from the start.

I do know, however, that the cut-and-run, let's publically show lack of resolve to the the terrorists, helps no one but the terrorists.

Such differences should be resolved behind closed doors.


113 posted on 02/20/2007 9:40:54 AM PST by MeanWestTexan (Kol Hakavod Lezahal)
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To: MeanWestTexan
Oh yea, let me be clear. I DO NOT agree with RP on the Iraq issue, I am just saying that his vote was based on a principle that is entirely foreign to liberal Dem "cut and runners".

I also make a point of highlighting some of the other issues (guns, taxes, marriage, life, etc.) that many seem to have forgotten about lately.

114 posted on 02/20/2007 9:41:04 AM PST by Clump (Your family may not be safe, but at least their library records will be.)
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To: JSDude1
I understand your position, but the elected Iraqi Government is now a Government dominated by convicted Islamic Terrorists who attacked our Embassies and murdered hundreds of United States Marines in cold blood.

"Democracies" who elect mass-murdering Terrorists to Majority Government Power are not worthy of our continued support.

I hope you'll consider that question, and hopefully we can work together for Ron Paul's nomination in the future!

best, OP

115 posted on 02/20/2007 9:41:58 AM PST by OrthodoxPresbyterian (We are Unworthy Servants; We have only done Our Duty -- Luke 17:10)
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian

Your question is a false premises, much as "When did you stop beating your wife."?

Are you David Gregory, maybe?


116 posted on 02/20/2007 9:42:17 AM PST by MeanWestTexan (Kol Hakavod Lezahal)
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To: wideawake

So becasue he didn't term limit himself he is now specifically "able to be corrupted?"

I'm not convinced.

PAUL / TANCREDO in 2008


117 posted on 02/20/2007 9:42:22 AM PST by WhiteGuy (GOP Congress - 16,000 earmarks costing US $50 billion in 2006 - PAUL2008)
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian
No you haven't.

You claimed that convicted terrorists dominate the Iraqi government.

Again, name the names of these convicted terrorists, state their position in Iraq's government, and list the crimes of which they were convicted.

If you are going to make a claim that serious, give us some substance to go on.

118 posted on 02/20/2007 9:42:25 AM PST by wideawake
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To: Patrick1

"..if the Islamists were marching down Pennsylvania Avenue."


They may not be marching down Penn Ave in the visible sense but the're marching all over the US without anyone doing anything about it. They have become a privileged component in our society.


119 posted on 02/20/2007 9:42:29 AM PST by 353FMG (I never met a liberal I didn't dislike.)
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian

"I understand your position, but the elected Iraqi Government is now a Government dominated by convicted Islamic Terrorists who attacked our Embassies and murdered hundreds of United States Marines in cold blood."

Are you sure you are not thinking of Iran??

How about some proof of this?


120 posted on 02/20/2007 9:43:08 AM PST by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marylin vos Savant)
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