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Giuliani starts strong in test of Republican voter allegiances
Washington Post ^ | march 4, 2007 | DAN BALZ

Posted on 03/03/2007 10:04:21 PM PST by FairOpinion

The man who was named Time magazine's "Person of the Year" for his response to the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks is now leading in a slew of national polls and testing whether cultural and religious conservatives in the GOP will support a candidate who offers strong leadership on security and terrorism rather than ideological purity on social issues.

Whit Ayres, a Georgia-based Republican pollster, said he has been struck by the number of conservatives he encountered who disagree with Giuliani on abortion or gay rights but are still attracted to him as a possible Republican nominee. The issue is whether that appeal can survive through a long campaign in which Giuliani's New York record, his position on issues, his three marriages and his complex business dealings will be subjected to withering scrutiny.

The latest Washington Post-ABC News poll showed Giuliani leading McCain by 44 percent to 21 percent, with former House speaker Newt Gingrich at 15 percent and former Massachusetts governor Mitt Romney at 4 percent.

Many GOP strategists still question whether Giuliani can survive the scrutiny and develop a message that appeals to voters across the spectrum of Republican conservatism. In his speech Friday at the Conservative Political Action Conference in Washington, Giuliani highlighted his record as a tax cutter, crime fighter and welfare reformer. But he offered little resembling a traditional conservative agenda for the future, other than saying the United States must remain on offense against terrorism. The speech won a polite but hardly enthusiastic response from the audience of activists.

(Excerpt) Read more at unionleader.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: electionpresident; elections; giuliani; rudy
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To: Brimack34; Liz
Dean was way ahead in the polls until people actually voted.

Keen observation. Thank you.

21 posted on 03/03/2007 10:20:22 PM PST by jla
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To: LdSentinal

Right. The public already knows the basics about Rudy, and yet--they are supporting him in spite of all the details people believe will cost him supporters.

Clearly at this point in time people do not care about his social conservatism. Maybe that will change in the next year, but it's not true now.


22 posted on 03/03/2007 10:20:50 PM PST by unsycophant
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To: flashbunny
another 35 percent have trouble with someone with three marriages.

On the other hand, a Newsweek poll out Saturday (March 3rd) showed this:

Of those polled, 82 percent of registered Republicans said a candidate's marital history isn't a significant factor in selecting a nominee, Newsweek said.

The fact that Giuliani has been married three times isn't an important consideration to 75 percent of registered Republicans and to 74 percent of social conservatives, the magazine said.

74% of "social conservatives" say "no big deal."
23 posted on 03/03/2007 10:21:05 PM PST by My2Cents
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To: jla
I'm sure, more than sure, that they'll become attuned to his antics in the upcoming months.

Modern conservatives are pretty hip and well informed. They pretty much read up about Rudy.

Enjoy the primaries, LdSentinal. I know I will.

All I like are the polls.

24 posted on 03/03/2007 10:21:49 PM PST by LdSentinal
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To: My2Cents

"As an evangelical Christian, I hang out with a lot of conservative Christians. I've been asking people I know and fellowship with what they think of the candidates. About half haven't decided whom they'll be supporting. The other half are for Rudy."

I was puzzled by your comment until I saw that you are from CA. Here in OK the conservative Christians (the majority of them anyway) are not supporting Rudy. Interesting how Christians on the left coast have a different take on Rudy than those of us in the heartland.


25 posted on 03/03/2007 10:22:19 PM PST by dmw (Aren't you glad you use common sense, don't you wish everybody did?)
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To: jla

Stupid Christians, they've probably never even marched in a gay pride parade. Stuffy Bible thumpin' squares...


26 posted on 03/03/2007 10:22:37 PM PST by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (2/25/07. Never Forget.)
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To: LdSentinal

The anti-Rooties here do us evangelical Christians a disservice in thinking that we're too stupid not to know about Giuliani's personal past, and in thinking we're some monolithic block that allows Pat Robertson to do our thinking for us.


27 posted on 03/03/2007 10:24:15 PM PST by My2Cents
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard

28 posted on 03/03/2007 10:25:23 PM PST by Mojave
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To: Brimack34
Dean was way ahead in the polls until people actually voted.

Now you just knock it off with that stuff. Inconvenient Truth Day was LAST Sunday!

29 posted on 03/03/2007 10:25:30 PM PST by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (2/25/07. Never Forget.)
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To: dmw; PhiKapMom
I was puzzled by your comment until I saw that you are from CA. Here in OK the conservative Christians (the majority of them anyway) are not supporting Rudy. Interesting how Christians on the left coast have a different take on Rudy than those of us in the heartland.

PKMom, your husband has been taking an informal poll of evangelicals in your area in Oklahoma. What's he found out?

30 posted on 03/03/2007 10:26:29 PM PST by My2Cents
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To: My2Cents
Actually . . .

"Rudy is a very good friend of mine and I would think he would did a super job running the City of New York and I think he'd make a good president. I like him a lot, although he doesn't share all of my particular point of view on social issues. He's a very dedicated Catholic, and he is a great guy".

Pat Robertson (May 1, 2005)

31 posted on 03/03/2007 10:26:42 PM PST by LdSentinal
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To: Brimack34
Dean was way ahead in the polls until people actually voted.

No he wasn't. The Iowa tracking polls showed Kerry surging to #1 five days prior to the Iowa Caucuses.

32 posted on 03/03/2007 10:28:15 PM PST by LdSentinal
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To: flashbunny
In his speech Friday at the Conservative Political Action Conference in Washington, Giuliani highlighted his record .... But he offered little resembling a traditional conservative agenda for the future ..... The speech won a polite but hardly enthusiastic response from the audience of activists.

Rudy gave a hackneyed speech at CPAC 2007. To me he looked uncomfortable and overplayed his Reagan card big time. Rudy and Reagan come from opposite ends of the political spectrum. Rudy didn't fool anyone with his impersonation of a conservative.

33 posted on 03/03/2007 10:28:17 PM PST by Reagan Man (FUHGETTABOUTIT Rudy....... Conservatives don't vote for liberals!)
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To: dmw

....you mean Christians from Calif are not as Christian as those in the Hearland?.....my folks are from Michigan before they moved to Calif so I would like to think I was raised with those Midwest Values....


34 posted on 03/03/2007 10:28:46 PM PST by NorCalRepub
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To: coconutt2000

"Divide and conquer works. Take a good look at how the coverage of the immigration issue was purpose designed to split conservatives over a domestic issue, enabling Liberals to pick up seats in the House and Senate.

I saw the coverage, and I recognized it for what it was - a liberal stratagem. ..."

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Your entire post 11 is right on the money and excellent!
You are very astute that you figured this out. So did I and I am in complete agreement with your assessment.

It is disastrous that other conservatives can't seem to figure it out, even when it's all laid out for them.

I hope someday you'll run for president, preferably before the Democrats succeed to totally destroy the US, while the conservatives are proudly "preserving their purity".


35 posted on 03/03/2007 10:28:54 PM PST by FairOpinion (Tell Congress: Work for Victory in Iraq. Stop Hillary. Go to: http://www.TheVanguard.org)
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To: jla; Brimack34; Liz
Dean was way ahead in the polls until people actually voted.

As has been pointed out numerous times in recent days, the early frontrunner among the Democrats never eventually wins the nomination. The early frontrunner among Republicans pretty much always wins the nomination. You can't compare the bipolar nature of the Democrats with the more rock-steady preferences of the Republicans.

36 posted on 03/03/2007 10:29:01 PM PST by My2Cents
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To: dmw; My2Cents
Interesting how Christians on the left coast have a different take on Rudy than those of us in the heartland.

Not content to only divide the conservatives in the GOP, you are now taking on the Christians?

37 posted on 03/03/2007 10:29:31 PM PST by Howlin (Honk if you like Fred Thompson!!!)
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To: LdSentinal

And how close are we now to the iowa caucus? When it comes down to crunch time, Rudy will be sucking canal water.


38 posted on 03/03/2007 10:30:05 PM PST by upsdriver ((Hunter / Thompson......Gonzo politics)
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To: LdSentinal

Thank you for that. I was aware that Robertson had some nice words about Rudy, but I couldn't put my hands on it.


39 posted on 03/03/2007 10:30:25 PM PST by My2Cents
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To: Mojave
She shares his agendas.



No way. Rudy's a a patriot. Hillary wants to tear down traditional America.
If you think Hillary is the same as Rudy you have a full blown case of RDS ( Rudy Derangement Syndrome)
40 posted on 03/03/2007 10:30:30 PM PST by Blackirish
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