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12 Washington State High School Students Suspended for Public Prayer Group
LifeSiteNews.com ^ | March6, 2007 | Gudrun Schultz

Posted on 03/07/2007 7:48:42 AM PST by csistrueblue

12 Washington State High School Students Suspended for Public Prayer Group

By Gudrun Schultz

VANCOUVER, Washington, March 6, 2007 (LifeSiteNews.com) - A number of students who formed an interdenominational prayer group at a Washington state high school were expelled by the administration last week over their refusal to hold a morning prayer session in a closed room, The Columbian reported March 2.

Twelve students at Heritage High School in Vancouver, WA, were suspended last Friday after continuing to meet for morning prayer in the commons area of the school, despite a faculty order that they stop causing physical "disruption" to student traffic with public prayer.

To express concerns, contact:

Heritage High School 7825 NE 130th Avenue, Vancouver, WA 98682

Phone: (360) 604-3400

Principal: Anne Sosky asosky@egreen.wednet.edu


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: freedomofspeech; schoolprayer
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To: MortMan

That, and I don't think it helped matters for Megan to refer to students who complained as 'pagans.' I read the whole piece and evidently a prayer group that met on the sidewalk in front of the school was okay as they weren't on school property - maybe it's an easement...?


41 posted on 03/07/2007 8:25:59 AM PST by Froufrou
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To: RobRoy
>>Raper's suit has no mentions of medical problems involving her now 2-year-old daughter.<<

Ummm... you appear to have pasted this quote on the wrong thread.

42 posted on 03/07/2007 8:26:42 AM PST by MortMan (Good health is merely the slowest possible rate at which one can die.)
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To: politicalwit

Or the ski club, or the chess club... heck, lets have all the clubs meet in the middle of the commons and try to out-shout each other.

I think it'd be simpler if we just had kids going to school to go to class and not make it a springboard to every hobby or interest people might have, but the offer of using classrooms, not the commons, for group gatherings seems a reasonable one.


43 posted on 03/07/2007 8:29:38 AM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: Ramius
??? Not wearing your glasses this morning?
I said S H O U T I N G not S H O O T I N G.

Have a better day. ;-)
44 posted on 03/07/2007 8:33:50 AM PST by EndWelfareToday (Live free and keep what you earn. - Tancredo or Hunter)
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To: MortMan

>>Ummm... you appear to have pasted this quote on the wrong thread.<<

Yeah, what would a Raper be doing with a daughter. Maybe a Rapper...


45 posted on 03/07/2007 8:36:54 AM PST by RobRoy (Islam is a greater threat to the world today than Nazism was in 1938.)
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To: Ramius

Your caution is well taken. Reasonable restrictions on time place and manner are permissible.


46 posted on 03/07/2007 8:38:33 AM PST by almcbean
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To: csistrueblue

Let's not Freep. These students were offered a room to pray in but that wasn't enough for them. They had to disrupt traffic and disturb others, all in the name of prayer. If all they wanted to do was pray, they clearly could have used the room that was offered. But no, they obviously wanted to proselytize by this public prayer spectacle they were offering up. What was it that Jesus said about those who pray in public?


47 posted on 03/07/2007 8:41:49 AM PST by Stone Mountain
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To: Froufrou

There is case law which states student groups are allowed to have student lead prayers in the public areas.

The students in the case were meeting at the flag pole to pray.

If they were blocking the hall then they have a problem, however if they were meeting in a commons area where OTHER student groups are allowed to meet in the same manner then the school's case is DOA.


48 posted on 03/07/2007 8:41:49 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: caseinpoint; All

I'm not convinced it was a traffic flow issue.

It is POSSIBLY an issue of wanting to shove the Christians behind closed doors while other groups can meet at will in the cafeteria/commons area.

If they were blocking traffic--fine--a reasonable issue.

If they were meeting in a corner of a large public room and the administration wanted them unseen behind closed doors while other groups are allowed in the public space, that's NOT FINE.


49 posted on 03/07/2007 8:43:49 AM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS WORTHY; GOD ALONE PAID THE PRICE; GOD ALONE IS ABLE; LOVE GOD WHOLLY)
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To: Ramius

actually if you read THOUGHT the reporter spin of the school board it sounds like they were JUST VISIBLE to other students.

Essentially the school is complaining the gathering was causing rubbernecking.

If the homosexual sex club was having a hump in in the common area, rubbernecking would be made mandatory by the administration.


50 posted on 03/07/2007 8:45:33 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: HairOfTheDog
to ensure
other students
were not
offended

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, the right to avoid being offended . . . RAHHHHHHHGHT.

GRRRRRRR. Methinks that's the issue here.

51 posted on 03/07/2007 8:46:50 AM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS WORTHY; GOD ALONE PAID THE PRICE; GOD ALONE IS ABLE; LOVE GOD WHOLLY)
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To: Stone Mountain

Okay, if you are right and they were offered a room, that's fine, but even if they were doing it to make a point, after reading a few comments on this post, I do believe their point has now made. They are showing the hypocrisy of their fellow men.
Have you ever been shopping at a mall or better yet Costco and have people standing in the middle of an aisle with cart in tow and chit chatting to their friends while you are trying to get to an item. This is okay...because? I think we also know are news media, so just how much of this story is true?


52 posted on 03/07/2007 8:53:29 AM PST by moneypenny (if your for the UN, you are UNAmerican)
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To: Ramius; caseinpoint

The only question here is whether other groups have been allowed to "block traffic" by holding meetings in the commons area. If other groups can do ot, so can the prayer group; if other groups are also required to meet in other rooms, then the prayer group should be required to do the same.

We don't have much info about the layout of the room and surrounding areas, nor about the size of the group, but unless it's a very large group in a very small space, or the group is deliberately planting itself in the middle of the main path through the room (seems unikely), then the "blocking traffic" explanation seems a bit contrived. I wonder if it IS a very large group, and has only been offered alternative rooms that are not large enough for the group and/or would be so crowded as to discourage any additional students from joining.


53 posted on 03/07/2007 8:54:38 AM PST by GovernmentShrinker
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To: Stone Mountain

Let's get more info before deciding whether or not to freep. They may have been offered a room that was too small to accommodate the group or allow for any growth at all. Or they may have been offered a room in a very remote location, which would have tended to discourage participation, while "politically correct" groups get the convenient spaces. How large is this group, and is it posing a legitimate hazard in the event an emergency evacuation of the school is needed, and to a degree not posed by any other groups that have been allowed to continue their activities?


54 posted on 03/07/2007 8:58:54 AM PST by GovernmentShrinker
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To: GovernmentShrinker

We don't have much info about the layout of the room and surrounding areas, nor about the size of the group, but unless it's a very large group in a very small space, or the group is deliberately planting itself in the middle of the main path through the room (seems unikely), then the "blocking traffic" explanation seems a bit contrived. I wonder if it IS a very large group, and has only been offered alternative rooms that are not large enough for the group and/or would be so crowded as to discourage any additional students from joining.

- - -

MUCH AGREE.


55 posted on 03/07/2007 8:58:57 AM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS WORTHY; GOD ALONE PAID THE PRICE; GOD ALONE IS ABLE; LOVE GOD WHOLLY)
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To: EndWelfareToday
Not wearing your glasses this morning? I said S H O U T I N G not S H O O T I N G.

Uh, you said neither shouting ~nor~ shooting, from what I can see. I'm not quite sure why you're all flipped out on me. I don't think I've said anything all that controversial. Perhaps you've got me confused with someone else?

56 posted on 03/07/2007 9:01:39 AM PST by Ramius ([sip])
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To: HairOfTheDog
to ensure other students were not offended and the group did not obstruct traffic

If a school official actually said that, the school's case is DOA. No doubt there are plenty of things going in public areas of the school that the prayer group kids find offensive.

57 posted on 03/07/2007 9:03:09 AM PST by GovernmentShrinker
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To: moneypenny
Have you ever been shopping at a mall or better yet Costco and have people standing in the middle of an aisle with cart in tow and chit chatting to their friends while you are trying to get to an item. This is okay...because?

This is not okay. If people are blocking the aisles of a Costco and not allowing people to shop, I think you can be pretty sure that Costco employees will be along soon to move everyone along.

Why was it so important for that group to pray in a public corridor instead of in private? I think we all know the answer to that question.

58 posted on 03/07/2007 9:03:31 AM PST by Stone Mountain
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To: GovernmentShrinker
They may have been offered a room that was too small to accommodate the group or allow for any growth at all.

There were only 12 of them - I would guess most school rooms are more than capable of holding twice that many people.

Or they may have been offered a room in a very remote location, which would have tended to discourage participation, while "politically correct" groups get the convenient spaces. How large is this group, and is it posing a legitimate hazard in the event an emergency evacuation of the school is needed, and to a degree not posed by any other groups that have been allowed to continue their activities?

Remote location doesn't bother me - if they are being provided with a place to gather, that is sufficient. It's not like high schools are so big that students can't get to any classroom in a few minutes. If it's true that other groups are being afforded preferential treatment, that would be a good point, but there is no mention of that in the article.
59 posted on 03/07/2007 9:08:25 AM PST by Stone Mountain
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To: csistrueblue
according to later in the article this was the problem.

No one gets suspended because they pray. This is a story of some kids who chose to defy a legitimate request by administrators to not disrupt other students," Bill Bentley said. Administrators had offered a classroom for the students' use, to ensure other students were not offended and the group did not obstruct traffic.

60 posted on 03/07/2007 9:09:48 AM PST by mware (By all that you hold dear.. on this good earth... I bid you stand! Men of the West!)
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