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DC Circuit strikes down DC gun law
How Appealing Blog ^ | 03/08/2007 | Howard Bashman

Posted on 03/09/2007 8:10:02 AM PST by cryptical

Edited on 03/09/2007 10:38:14 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

BREAKING NEWS -- Divided three-judge D.C. Circuit panel holds that the District of Columbia's gun control laws violate individuals' Second Amendment rights: You can access today's lengthy D.C. Circuit ruling at this link.

According to the majority opinion, "[T]he phrase 'the right of the people,' when read intratextually and in light of Supreme Court precedent, leads us to conclude that the right in question is individual." The majority opinion sums up its holding on this point as follows:

To summarize, we conclude that the Second Amendment protects an individual right to keep and bear arms. That right existed prior to the formation of the new government under the Constitution and was premised on the private use of arms for activities such as hunting and self-defense, the latter being understood as resistance to either private lawlessness or the depredations of a tyrannical government (or a threat from abroad). In addition, the right to keep and bear arms had the important and salutary civic purpose of helping to preserve the citizen militia. The civic purpose was also a political expedient for the Federalists in the First Congress as it served, in part, to placate their Antifederalist opponents. The individual right facilitated militia service by ensuring that citizens would not be barred from keeping the arms they would need when called forth for militia duty. Despite the importance of the Second Amendment's civic purpose, however, the activities it protects are not limited to militia service, nor is an individual's enjoyment of the right contingent upon his or her continued or intermittent enrollment in the militia.

The majority opinion also rejects the argument that the Second Amendment does not apply to the District of Columbia because it is not a State. And the majority opinion concludes, "Section 7-2507.02, like the bar on carrying a pistol within the home, amounts to a complete prohibition on the lawful use of handguns for self-defense. As such, we hold it unconstitutional."

Senior Circuit Judge Laurence H. Silberman wrote the majority opinion, in which Circuit Judge Thomas B. Griffith joined. Circuit Judge Karen LeCraft Henderson dissented.

Judge Henderson's dissenting opinion makes clear that she would conclude that the Second Amendment does not bestow an individual right based on what she considers to be binding U.S. Supreme Court precedent requiring that result. But her other main point is that the majority's assertion to the contrary constitutes nothing more than dicta because the Second Amendment's protections, whatever they entail, do not extend to the District of Columbia, because it is not a State.

This is a fascinating and groundbreaking ruling that would appear to be a likely candidate for U.S. Supreme Court review if not overturned first by the en banc D.C. Circuit.

Update: "InstaPundit" notes the ruling in this post linking to additional background on the Second Amendment. And at "The Volokh Conspiracy," Eugene Volokh has posts titled "Timetable on Supreme Court Review of the Second Amendment Case, and the Presidential Election" and "D.C. Circuit Accepts Individual Rights View of the Second Amendment," while Orin Kerr has a post titled "DC Circuit Strikes Down DC Gun Law Under the 2nd Amendment."

My coverage of the D.C. Circuit's oral argument appeared here on the afternoon of December 7, 2006. Posted at 10:08 AM by Howard Bashman


TOPICS: Breaking News; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; banglist; devilhasiceskates; districtofcolumbia; firsttimeruling; flyingpigs; frogshavewings; giuliani; gunlaws; hellfreezesover; individualright; rkba; secondamendment; selfdefense
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To: Steel Wolf
they'd be more open for the banning of handguns (as they are more useful in crime than in warfare) than for any restrictions on rifles, machine guns, or heavier items. Just my take, anyway.

The same thing that makes them useful to criminals makes them useful for little old ladies protecting themselves against criminals as well: They are small, easy to operate, and powerful enough to do the job. Self-defense is important as well, and I think the framers understood that.

421 posted on 03/09/2007 12:43:35 PM PST by coloradan (Failing to protect the liberties of your enemies establishes precedents that will reach to yourself.)
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To: Steel Wolf
Now, does that mean that Thomas Jefferson wanted individual citizens to own cruise missiles? Tanks? Grenade launchers? It's hard to say, exactly, since they weren't around at the time. Certainly private citizens owned ships and cannon, which were clearly military grade of the time. A letter of marque serves no purpose if there aren't heavily armed citizens to employ. One could infer that the Founding Fathers wanted the citizens to have pretty much anything that the government could.

That was talked about actually in the decision around page 50 to 54 (I think it was without looking it up again) when it was talking about the equipment required for milita.

I can't remember if they were citing previous rulings or making their own comments.

The basic impression I got was that small arms (rifles, pistols etc) that could be used by an individual were covered, but larger arms were not as those were to be provided by the actual military, BUT for militia use.

422 posted on 03/09/2007 12:43:40 PM PST by Domandred
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To: Congressman Billybob

Thanks for the correction. :-)


423 posted on 03/09/2007 12:44:15 PM PST by Dead Corpse (What would a free man do?)
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To: AnnaZ

I just heard This on the radio. Great news!


424 posted on 03/09/2007 12:44:32 PM PST by mylife (The Roar of the Masses Could be Farts)
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To: Lurker
This is a very good day my friend. Very good indeed.

There's promise there, but the fight ain't over yet.

425 posted on 03/09/2007 12:44:48 PM PST by Dead Corpse (What would a free man do?)
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To: jmc813
There are some cases which the SC feels compelled to take, because refusing that particular case would be too embarrassing. I think this case falls in that category.

Couple that with the fact that there IS a conflict in the Circuits. On conflicting cases, the "traffic cop" role of the Court comes into play. Federal law MUST be uniform across the country. Results should not vary depending solely on where the parties live.

Taking both reasons into account, I think the Court WILL take this case.

John / Billybob
426 posted on 03/09/2007 12:45:35 PM PST by Congressman Billybob (Please get involved: www.ArmorforCongress.com)
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To: cryptical
Well, well, well, judges who can finally read and interpret the U.S. Constitution in English.

Bad news for the left, the Brady bunch...and over zealous politicians in general. Might not have to vote from the roof tops after all...

5.56mm

427 posted on 03/09/2007 12:46:06 PM PST by M Kehoe
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To: zendari

Bush II's legacy, despite a few setbacks, will be reigning in the activist courts.



Bush II's legacy, despite a few setbacks, will be reining in the activist courts.

(Your typo gave a different meaning than you apparently intended.)


428 posted on 03/09/2007 12:48:56 PM PST by Atlas Sneezed (Your FRiendly FReeper Patent Attorney)
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To: jmc813
They're actually taking it pretty well over there. That's the funny thing about DU. They're morons on everything else, but it seems as if most of them are pro-gun.

Sometimes I'm frightened when DU and FR are in accord over a subject. Happens from time to time, but it always makes me take a second to check my premises. :-) 

429 posted on 03/09/2007 12:49:16 PM PST by zeugma (MS Vista has detected your mouse has moved, Cancel or Allow?)
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To: Dead Corpse

"It was not the intent of the founders to force the states to apply the federal bill of rights.

Yes. It was."

Tell it to the courts.

“…the right there specified is that of ‘bearing arms for a lawful purpose’. This is not a right granted by the Constitution. Neither is it in any manner dependent upon that instrument for its existence. The second amendment declares that it shall not be infringed; but as has been seen, means no more than it shall not be infringed by Congress.” - US v Cruikshank

"We think it clear that the sections under consideration, which only forbid bodies of men to associate together as military organizations, or to drill or parade with arms in cities [116 U.S. 252, 265] and towns unless authorized by law, do not infringe the right of the people to keep and bear arms. But a conclusive answer to the contention that this amendment prohibits the legislation in question lies in the fact that the amendment is a limitation only upon the power of congress and the national government, and not upon that of the state. " - Presser v Illanois

"“it is now well settled that the amendments to the Constitution of the United States of March 4 1789, are all restrictions, not upon the states, but upon the United States.” - Hill v State of Georgia

The first two are US Supreme Court decisions...that was the state of the law until the Courts began to read and incorporate intent of the 14th.


430 posted on 03/09/2007 12:51:54 PM PST by Jim Verdolini
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To: Congressman Billybob
The other came from Texas, and the Supreme Court declined to review that, the Emerson case

With the difference being that the 5th circuit ruled against Emersson. The "individual right" interpretation in Emerson *could* be said, and has been by some, to be dicta. Not so in this case, the individual right interpretation is central to the ruling.

If the Supreme Court won't hear and resolve this clear difference between the circuits, they should all be impeached, and new set of Justices brought in who will do their job. (Yea, I know, not doing their job is not generally considered grounds for impeachment. But it should be! It's certainly not "Good Behavior".

431 posted on 03/09/2007 12:52:27 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: Jim Verdolini
Courts don't get to re-write the Constitution. This decision addresses those concerns. Read it.

Or, be like Bobby and keep being wrong...

432 posted on 03/09/2007 12:53:41 PM PST by Dead Corpse (What would a free man do?)
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To: Domandred; Steel Wolf
Ah found it. Page 52 in the decision, their own comments:

It follows that the weapons described in the Act were in "common use" at the time, particularly when one considers the widespread nature of militia duty. Included among these militia weapons were long guns (i.e., muskets and rifles) and pistols. Moreover, the Act distinguishes between the weapons citizens were required to furnish themselves and those that were to be supplied by the government. For instance, with respect to an artillery private (or "matross"), the Act provides that he should "furnish himself with all the equipments of a private in the infantry, until proper ordnance and field artillery is provided." The Act required militiamen to acquire weapons that were in common circulation and that individual men would be able to employ, such as muskets, rifles, pistols, sabres, hangers, etc., but not cumbersome, expensive, or rare equipment such as cannons.

433 posted on 03/09/2007 12:53:54 PM PST by Domandred
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To: Beelzebubba

Sorry, thanks.


434 posted on 03/09/2007 12:54:11 PM PST by zendari
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To: patton
I haven't yet read the opinion, but I assume they said the second amendment applies to the states? I assumed this because the dissenting judge lamented that DC wasn't a state.

The the article said, "The majority opinion also rejects the argument that the Second Amendment does not apply to the District of Columbia because it is not a State."

Leaving me, therefore, to conclude that they considered DC a "state" for this ruling. (ie., the ruling applies to the states, we reject the argument that the ruling doesn't apply to DC, ergo, DC is a state).

435 posted on 03/09/2007 12:54:23 PM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: robertpaulsen
haven't yet read the opinion,

That much is very obvious.

... but I assume they said the second amendment applies to the states?

No. It said it applies as a protection for an Individual Right, regardless of which State or District they live in or whether or not they are in a "militia".

436 posted on 03/09/2007 12:56:45 PM PST by Dead Corpse (What would a free man do?)
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To: basil
I've got to see it in a source I trust before I get too excited, though.)

Your wish is my command, m'lady.

>Link to AP Story

The Brady Bunch's wailing on the ruling

And finally The Ruling Itself Right from the uscourts.gov site.

437 posted on 03/09/2007 12:58:05 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: everyone

OUTSTANDING!!!


438 posted on 03/09/2007 12:58:09 PM PST by California Patriot
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To: Abundy
"Hope you are ready to eat a little crow."

Yes, I'm munching on my humble pie as we speak.

I'll no longer be able to post that the federal courts have ruled 50-1 in favor of the collective right over individual rights. I'll have to use 50-2 from now on.

"Once this is upheld - and it can't be overturned without calling into question ... "

Yes it can. It can be overturned by the DC Court of Appeals en banc or by the 4th Circuit.

439 posted on 03/09/2007 12:59:49 PM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: robertpaulsen

Uh, overturned by the 4th Circuit? Where are you getting that from?


440 posted on 03/09/2007 1:00:36 PM PST by NinoFan (Rudy Lovers: The Rosie O'Donnell Wing of the Republican Party)
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