The Great Global Warming Swindle (Man Made Global Warming Debunked - Documentary shown on UK C4 TV)

Kevin Stanchfield via British TV, Channel 4 video via Google Video ^ | March 8, 2007 | Martin Durkin

[bd476]

Again, if you haven't watched the documentary, it would be good for any discussion, pro or con.

An hour and 15 minutes is a small investment of time considering that you're getting factual information.

[editor-surveyor]

He's not interested in facts; Gaia demands worship.

[elfman2]

I watched it, and said before, it was very persuasive, but desperately needed to be cut in half, especially near the end. But if it only presented one side of the argument rather than just emphasizes one side, it's propaganda rather than just biased. It should have addressed some to the criticism it's receiving from that blog. Now I have to dig into the science to tell whether it's propaganda or not.

[bd476]

elfman2 wrote: "I watched it, and said before, it was very persuasive, but desperately needed to be cut in half..."

Then is it safe to assume that you never watch commercial movies or television shows?

Did you enjoy watching An Inconvenient Truth?

[BIGLOOK]

Hello BD,
Elfman is incorrigible so let it go. This reminds me of a discussion long ago between students and their professor in a casual setting.......Friday night at a watering hole. The talk was rousing and rigorous until one student offered inane challenges to Einstein's Theory of Relativity but at the same time declared admiration for the man. The noise level rose considerably until the prof cut to the chase; he asked the pretender if he had read Einsteins theory in its entirty, the answer was no. The prof said, "How can you admire or challenge Einstein when you haven't even bothered to read his book."

In the case of the Elfman quandary, he's admitted to not being up on the scientific data presented (he'll look into it, reluctantly), he's critical of the climatologist, scientists and others who belong to the community interested in the subject while never having enough interest to follow up by reading their findings. Arguing with Elfman is futile in this case since his arguments ignore the case.

Jack

[Marie]

I came across this little gem this morning. The timing couldn't have been more perfect. My son (6th grade) came home in a panic over... global warming. I sat him down and had him view the video. He's spitting mad at his teachers.

(My daughter came home disgusted with her school as well. According to her textbook and teacher, the human population on our fair planet will go over 15 billion within the next three years.)

[Marie]

loved it! thanks!

[bd476]

You're welcome, Marie. I'm really glad to hear that you enjoyed it and that your kids watched it. Thanks for giving your feedback.

[Elsie]

Their tactics worked?

Simple to test: Go to any school in the USoA and ask the kiddies about GW®.

[Elsie]

My son (6th grade) came home in a panic over... global warming.

I rest my case.....

[elfman2]

Kid's don't run the world, and they change their minds a half dozen times or more before they do. Don't sell out to your values for very questionable short term gains.

[Thickman]

I'm afraid that this is more of the kettle calling the pot black. Which is less credible? IMO, it's those who make such sweeping conclusions about AGW without enough data and who rely on manipulated models to promote a cause instead of conduct research according to the Scientific Method. If the AGW crowd were real scientists, they would be trying to disprove their theories instead of overlooking all the other factors that could be contributing to the current warm climate.

[elfman2]

There are plenty. This video explains, among other things, why they're overwhelmed: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1803521/posts

[Thickman]

Seen it three times. There are plenty of skeptics but as GGWS explains, they don't get the funding and no exposure.