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Shots fired at Virginia Tech (AP: 33 dead, 15 wounded)
http://www.vtnews.vt.edu/story.php?relyear=2007&itemno=248 ^

Posted on 04/16/2007 7:14:16 AM PDT by LexHoskin

Gunman on Campus; Stay inside your building, away from windows; Shooting incident at West Ambler Johnston Hall

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TOPICS: Breaking News; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; banglist; rkba; secondamendment; selfdefense; vatech; virginiatech
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To: Paved Paradise
They haven’t even notified all the parents and he’s talking about healing!!!!

Not only that - I heard less than half an hour ago (if it's true) that there are still some bodies in the classrooms!!

2,761 posted on 04/16/2007 4:28:07 PM PDT by Inspectorette
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To: Texas_shutterbug
But I can well imagine a party with a bunch of out of control drunk students and a couple of guns. ugh

What makes a 21 year old college student a poor risk for CCW, but a 21-year-old plumber's apprentice OK?

Nationwide, people 21 years old and older are getting their CCW licenses. Go list how many were involved in drunken shootings. I'll give you a hint: if ANY CCW holder ANYWHERE in the US was shot somebody while drunk, what is the probability that it would NOT be national news?

2,762 posted on 04/16/2007 4:28:13 PM PDT by SauronOfMordor (<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymLJz3N8ayI">Open Season</a> rocks)
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To: jveritas
The shut down could have been done within 30 minutes at maximum after the first shooting.

You don't shut down a community of 26,000 because someone got shot. At the time it looked like a single incident. Do they close your town down when someone gets shot? If they had shut down the campus where would they have put the thousands of students who were on campus for class that didn't live on campus? Have you ever been on a campus as large as Virginia Tech? What you're proposing would have been logistically impossible. And if it had been done and students were congregated somewhere in the open and the shooter started picking them off there'd be people blaming the police for that too.

2,763 posted on 04/16/2007 4:28:16 PM PDT by pgkdan (Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions - G.K. Chesterton)
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To: Zeon Cowboy

No offense meant. I don’t own any of those things but most that I have seen have been painted over by people looking for that “real” look.


2,765 posted on 04/16/2007 4:29:13 PM PDT by happinesswithoutpeace (You are receiving this broadcast as a dream)
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To: Quix

What I want to know is this:

A guy supposedly shoots a girl cause she cheated on him, and nobody in her dorm knows her boyfriend’s name?


2,766 posted on 04/16/2007 4:29:21 PM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: advance_copy
wearing a vest with an "ungodly" amount of ammunition

I wonder what would constitute a "godly" amount.

2,767 posted on 04/16/2007 4:29:28 PM PDT by Dont Mention the War (My voting record: Rudy '89, Rudy '93, Rudy '97, Rudy '08. (Why not piss off BOTH sides?))
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To: mommya
I thought I heard them say left the state too - did I imagine that?

No, I heard it too, earlier in the day.

2,768 posted on 04/16/2007 4:29:55 PM PDT by Inspectorette
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To: DCBryan1

I don’t *know* that but it would certainly APPEAR so.

And very pointedly so.


2,769 posted on 04/16/2007 4:30:03 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD!)
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To: meandog

I’ll tell you another thing I found very odd. The only person that showed any emotion was the police chief. The Pres and VP of the University and the students interviewed on camera were way too calm. I realize the students might just be in shock, but still, the guy was so non-plussed.


2,770 posted on 04/16/2007 4:30:28 PM PDT by Paved Paradise
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To: meg88

AWAITING NEWS CONFERENCE right now.


2,771 posted on 04/16/2007 4:30:45 PM PDT by floriduh voter (Join Terri's Legacy List Contact: 8mmmauser)
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To: oceanview

Yes, there are people here claiming that the administrators should go to jail, which is a knee-jerk reaction based on very little information. It’s one of those ‘we have to do SOMETHING reactions’, that usually results in big mistakes.


2,772 posted on 04/16/2007 4:30:54 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: SuziQ

I agree, after the facts are assembled and the dead buried and the mourned...we will be in a possession to ascertain if the authorities share some measure of blame.


2,773 posted on 04/16/2007 4:30:57 PM PDT by Natchez Hawk (RIP Kilgore Trout)
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To: omega4179

“I can reach around the back of my head, can’t you?”

Yes I can. I wasn’t saying it was impossible. What I was trying say is that type of suicide is IMHO very unlikely but if a police or FBI sniper nailed him then the back of the head shot seems more likely. It all smells of major spin control


2,774 posted on 04/16/2007 4:31:35 PM PDT by Polynikes
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To: xjcsa

Yeah, go figure.


2,775 posted on 04/16/2007 4:31:35 PM PDT by null and void (To Marines, male bonding happens in Boot Camp, to Democrats, it happens at a Gay Pride parade...)
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To: Dont Mention the War

I’d agree but it’s hard to believe they can’t, over the course of a full day have a name and prints to match just by asking some of the girls friends who she was seeing. Also it doesn’t make sense that this guy would care about being ID’d if he was an enraged lover and obviously he didn’t.


2,776 posted on 04/16/2007 4:31:44 PM PDT by whershey
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To: Inspectorette
Not only that - I heard less than half an hour ago (if it's true) that there are still some bodies in the classrooms!!

It's gonna take a while to process than many bodies and crime scenes.

2,777 posted on 04/16/2007 4:31:50 PM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: floriduh voter
confusion in reporting is inexcusable. More lives were lost because nobody appeared to set up an adequate chain of command for information or security after the first shootings.

That's nonsense, IMO.

A college campus the size of a small town at a time of the day when kids are too busy getting ready for school..why would anybody suspect anything more than a solitary shooting?

There were no suspects, no hostage situation...they didn't even know if it was murder suicide. We don't know if the shooter left a decoy weapon at the scene. There were no reports of anybody running away from the scene.

The college president took the position that it was better to get the kids into their classrooms and THEN lock them down...since it takes up to twenty minutes for some students to walk to their classrooms.

IMO, the college acted properly. Blame the shooter...for once.

2,778 posted on 04/16/2007 4:31:50 PM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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To: Twink
Thanks...IMHO, it bears repeating.
...as to those screaming in the MSM and elsewhere about how terrible guns are (and will be doing so for the next several weeks and months)...the shooter broke all of their gun laws today and killed innocents. Gun laws do not work...they contribute exponentially to the problem.

What this guy needed, IMHO, very quickly...the sooner the better, was hot lead firing back in his direction. People who are dodging bullets very quickly become less accurate and less efficient killers themselves. More people, common citizens need to be armed, plain and simple so they can take responsibility for their own safety.

That's the truth of this situation and is something our founding fathers recognized and clearly articulated in our constitution (despite all the liberal wordsmithing of late) well over 200 years ago.

2,779 posted on 04/16/2007 4:31:53 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: Knitting A Conundrum
"... A guy supposedly shoots a girl cause she cheated on him, and nobody in her dorm knows her boyfriend’s name?"

Maybe they're all thinking 'Which boyfriend are they talking about?'.

2,780 posted on 04/16/2007 4:32:08 PM PDT by The KG9 Kid
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