Posted on 04/17/2007 7:01:30 AM PDT by areafiftyone
All are saying they will vote for the Dem nominee or stay home, which of course is one in the same.
Of course, as a political junkie, you all know the score, its the same tone as 06.
I say OK, so be it. (altho I will not participate in it)
It’s every man for himself now.
You libs just can't hide behind an "R". Here's a clue -------- Ruuuuudy is unelectable. The "drag" pics will do him in.(Think mushroom cloud.) Especially in a general election with the hildabeast. Sorry,a New York popularity contest for POTUS is unacceptable to any conservative with the courage of their convictions.
-—”The Republican Party delivered two fine Supreme Ct. judgeships for the religious right...”-—
Correction:
The Republican Party delivered two fine Supreme Court justices for the RIGHT, period.
And it was because the so-called religious right brought them record votes and turnout - just ask Rove, who said as much.
So where is the loyalty to the religious right now, eh?
Oh that’s right - “screw you, you’re polarizing!”
Don't confuse conservatism with Rudy Republicanism....there is a BIG difference. BTW...I noticed your a newbie here on FR. I highly suggest you read how the founder/owner of FR defines conservatism. This is a CONSERVATIVE forum.
Sorry Charlie...Rudy IS NOT A CONSERVATIVE.
“The Republican Party delivered two fine Supreme Court justices for the RIGHT, period. And it was because the so-called religious right brought them record votes and turnout - just ask Rove, who said as much.”
They turned out in record numbes ‘04, before the judges were appointed. Their vote was way down in ‘06 after they were appointed. Look at Santorum’s loss in PA—the pro-life vote split between him and a pro-life Democrat. In other words, there was no party loyalty whatsoever. Even now the attitude with a great many right on these threads is it’s their way or the highway.
He’s a heck of a lot more conservative than Hillary, Obama or Edwards! And he’s the only Republican who can win the big electoral states, IMO. Any Republican is better than a Dem in the White House.
“Don’t confuse conservatism with Rudy Republicanism....there is a BIG difference. BTW...I noticed your a newbie here on FR. I highly suggest you read how the founder/owner of FR defines conservatism. This is a CONSERVATIVE forum.”
I suggest instead that you try reading my summary of Rudy’s actual record to get better informed. And while you’re at it, show me how you one-issue fanatics intend to win an election with somebody like Gingrich or Hunter or Thompson at the top of the ticket. Show me how any one of them can win a single blue or purple state without first moving to the center—then maybe I’ll take you guys more seriously.
“I like how Jim Gilmore said ‘Rudy McRommney is not a conservative...’ in Iowa last week. lol!”
Translation—why isn’t anybody paying attention to ME?
It’s pointless. God Himself could come down and tell you to your face that Rudy would lose and one of these guys would win. Your response would be to call Him “crazy,” a “liar,” or a “one-issue fanatic.”
Freepers are well aware of Rudy’s record - that’s why we all know he’s nothing near a Conservative and quite to the left of GOP Moderates. That’s why he’s so adamantly opposed at FR, and why he polls so miserably here. that’s why so many of us consider him an enemy to the Conservative movement, and those who support him enablers to Liberalism.
We’ve read the talking points from the Rudophiles like yourself. We know that we could prove them all wrong and it still won’t change your mind. Instead, you would just assume credit him for more rainy days in NY - proof he’s the heir to Reagan’s rainy day policies. You continue to propogate the INSANE idea that Rudy Giuliani might EVER someday appoint a Supreme Court justice who would even CONSIDER overturning Roe v. Wade, despite Rudy’s own clearly stated positions otherwise. The problem isn’t that we haven’t read your talking points - the problem is that we know they are utter nonsense.
It is your Liberal guy who is unelectable, you just refuse to see it. You remind me a lot of the folks who said that Bush would beat Gore in a Reaganesque landslide because Bush was polling 19 points ahead of him until Gore's convention speech. How could he possibly lose - you’re all idiots for thinking otherwise - look at his poll numbers!!!!!!
It is better to lose the 2008 election than have Rudy run the GOP - get used to it, there are many of us who know this to be true. If it gives you some sort of self-righteous encouragement to say “damn the SoCons and Gun Conservatives,” as you continue to do in thread after thread, fine. But you don’t belong here at Free Republic; you’re just one in a small but vocal group of imposing salesmen taking advantage of the fact that the owner of the house is too classy to throw you out, and using that as justification to keep trying to get us to sign up for your Amway pyramid.
Sell Liberalism somewhere else - it's not selling here.
You’re either a Conservative or you’re not...Rudy fits in the “NOT” category. Vote for anything less than a conservative (as outlined in the Republican Platform) and you vote for a liberal, ie, a wasted vote). A vote for Giuliani is a wasted conservative vote.
One issue fanatic...that’s a laugh!!! Face it...you’re a pseudo-republican and come nowhere close to being a conservative if you support someone like Giuliani. I think DU is calling you. Your values and your candidate have a lot in common with the Democrats.
Look at Rudy’s numbers previous to announcing and afterwards. It has a big effect.
Sounds like Jimmy Carter-ism.
There is only one solution:
And I expected Rudy to be higher in the polls this time around - I said so last week. Polls fluctuate, but in the end, they give you a pretty good idea of who is doing well and who isn’t, who goes down and can’t get up, and who has trouble even getting started. Going down a few points and getting up the next week is the way polls are. I’m glad he is doing well and that he remains number one.
Kinda hard to be real high where there are so many candidates running. When it starts to boil down to 2 and the others either drop out for lack of funds or other reasons then the numbers for everyone will go up.
Absolutely.
I agree entirely.
Fred runs, it’s all over but the crying.
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