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Cho sent photos and rambling letter to NBC.
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Posted on 04/18/2007 1:29:40 PM PDT by harwood

Just heard anchorette report this on pMSNBC


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aishmael; cho; copiedfirst; ishmael; losersyndrome; manifesto; nbcexclusive; psychmeds; ratings; schizophrenic; senttofbisecond; vatech; virginiatech; vtach
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To: Wormwood

He was soooo columbine...


641 posted on 04/18/2007 4:35:24 PM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: harwood

Little difference between Cho and DU poster...the hatred for the rich, etc.


642 posted on 04/18/2007 4:35:35 PM PDT by meandog (Protect your 2nd Amendment Rights...Join the NRA!)
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To: ItisaReligionofPeace

No clue...


643 posted on 04/18/2007 4:35:55 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

He even mentioned those two boys by name.


644 posted on 04/18/2007 4:35:58 PM PDT by Howlin (Honk if you like Fred Thompson!!!)
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To: RDTF

I don’t, the message I see is it’s America’s fault. This is way past the garden variety mass murderer. The attack was well planned, likely choreographed by the prior weeks bomb threats to test response of the police, and he left the message of what he wanted to be seen as after he was done.

This is much more than mass murder ... He was sending America a political message, just like other terrorists do, no way to deny it.


645 posted on 04/18/2007 4:36:24 PM PDT by Tarpon
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard

Warned before and took credit? Please provide a legitimate source for this claim. Note that a legitimate source does not include a rambling on some conspiracy theorist website.


646 posted on 04/18/2007 4:36:28 PM PDT by ItisaReligionofPeace
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To: LdSentinal
His parents own and reside in a $500,000 dollar home.

Yeah but, it was a town house ... I'm still waiting to hear if he had his own 'rice racer' (white acura with spoiler and aftermarket front end)

647 posted on 04/18/2007 4:36:37 PM PDT by 11th_VA (VRWC Local 774)
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To: Howlin

He was giving them a shout out...why not, he was on the same drugs.


648 posted on 04/18/2007 4:37:03 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: Wormwood

I don’t know of any “classic spree” killers who left behind a video tape. I do know that it is a classic islamic suicide killer’s MO


649 posted on 04/18/2007 4:37:36 PM PDT by freeperfromnj
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To: wolf24

You said — “So, in that way at least, it is like the jihadists....”

Well, I pointed out carefully, in another post yesterday that there is a big difference between what we see with certified nutjobs here in the U.S. and dedicated jihadis who have a religion and a philosophy that they follow with absolute dedication. There is a world of difference.

If you confuse the two, then you make the job of fighting the jihadis that much more difficult and you will not understand them, in order to fight them and beat them. They are not *nutjobs* but rather are following a dedicated religious and governmental philosophy, the same way those who were Nazis did and who followed the Emperor in Japan and those who towed the Communist line in Russia.

I suppose that people might called Nazis and Emperor worshipers and Communists and Jihadis all nutjobs — but that does not gain any understanding (in order to *know your enemy*) and is a great diservice.

Regards,
Star Traveler


650 posted on 04/18/2007 4:37:36 PM PDT by Star Traveler
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To: Beelzebubba

I didn’t see it in a thread - it was the last quote from the madman in the first package NBC News played tonight. They broke up the videos. It was the last one in the first section, before they moved on to other news.


651 posted on 04/18/2007 4:37:38 PM PDT by franklog
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To: BurbankKarl

Is this really what he said/wrote???


652 posted on 04/18/2007 4:37:40 PM PDT by ItisaReligionofPeace
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To: Star Traveler

<< You said — “And it is just now being reported on FoxNews that the return address on the package to NBC was: “Ismail Ax” !” >>

<< Yep, and that’s been reported as (1) a physics formula, (2) a Turkish psychiatrist that deal with mental issues that he had, (3) some Islam cryptic message, (4) a game “handle” for the games he played online. >>

It was “A. Ishmael” on the label.

Your reasoning is extremely weak on this point.

Because people have offered various, mostly far-fetched hypotheses as to what the significance of the reference to “Ismail/Ishmael” might be (which designation was indisputably of importance to this a-hole), your logical conclusion from that is that one should therefore exclude out of hand, even though we know relatively little about this guy, any possibility that he was influenced by islamism? How does that make any sense?


653 posted on 04/18/2007 4:37:45 PM PDT by SirJohnBarleycorn
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To: Sopater

Where did you find that??

Pray for W adn VA Tech


654 posted on 04/18/2007 4:38:07 PM PDT by bray (The Surge is Working against both enemies of America)
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To: bnelson44
But he praises the Columbine killers and calls them heros. Not Islamists. So I think he saw himself aligned with them, not al-Qaeda

Michael Savage said that a Canadian news source is reporting that the manifesto also applauded the 911 attack.

[More will come out of this. And, I would bet his computer has allot more writings.]
655 posted on 04/18/2007 4:38:10 PM PDT by TomGuy
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To: 11th_VA

LOL! I know exactly what you mean. Just go hang out on Little River Turnpike in Annandale.


656 posted on 04/18/2007 4:38:22 PM PDT by RDTF
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To: Kaylee Frye

You said — “Thanks, I hadn’t seen that last bit of information.... Perhaps a voluntary committal should be grounds for a denial as well...”

It looks like that information that I gave you before has *morphed* in the news and they’re changing the story now. So, it’s getting too confusing to sort this one out — just yet. I wouldn’t settle on that one just yet...

Regards,
Star Traveler


657 posted on 04/18/2007 4:38:58 PM PDT by Star Traveler
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To: Tarpon

Killer/murderer is good enough for me.


658 posted on 04/18/2007 4:38:58 PM PDT by Trust but Verify (why isn't madman good enough?)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum
He was soooo columbine...

Eerily reminiscent. Social retard lashes out at his perceived persecutors.

I really do hope this puts the jihadi nonsense to bed.

659 posted on 04/18/2007 4:39:15 PM PDT by Wormwood (Future Former Freeper)
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To: All

Did anybody notice that in some of his video where he is really ranting and raving angry, he several times, shows hints of smiles.

I think this guy was just plain bonkers nuts and thought it was fun to act out a real life play (since his creative writing was horrendously poor in quality).

Any allusions of his to class, religion, islamic symbolism like possibly Ismail - is just incoherent ramblings. He had no mission, no cause, no real fight, he was likely just mad and wanted to kill himself and take others with him just for mad kicks.


660 posted on 04/18/2007 4:39:17 PM PDT by rbmillerjr ("Message to radical jihadis...come to my hood, it's understood ------ it's open season" Stuck Mojo)
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