WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO BE 'PRO-LIFE'?

hillary clinton, Hannity & Colmes, YouTube ^ | 4.19.07 | Mia T

[areafiftyone]

Somehow they do not understand that Americans shun the extremes of both parties, and sincerely want a leader who will work with both parties to bring about the legislative initiatives promised by the 109th Congress, but that achieved little more than corruption and sleaze. The party that fails to appeal to the independents and moderates of both sides will lose the next election.

BINGO!!! You hit the nail on the head. If 2006 didn't convince them then they are going to lose in 2008.

[KATIE-O]

“.... If she is bad for her liberalism, why is Rudy good for his liberalism?....”

Hillary is a corrupt, lying, power hungry Socialist/Marxist. Rudy Giuliani is a fiscally conservative, tax cutting, law and order LEADER who happens to believe in a woman’s right to choose, even though he loathes abortion, and who is not opposed to equal rights, under the law, for tax paying citizens who happen to be gay. This does not mean GAY MARRIAGE. President George Bush is also for civil unions and, if he were alive today, I can almost guarantee you President Reagan would be too. I had rather have a candidate who can win the election than one who agrees with me 100% on all issues, but cannot win.

[nopardons]

bttt

[Gop1040]

That you for the great post. You hit the nail on head squarely. The same old “usual suspects” who tried to debunk your argument went down on flames. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi....”winning (against the Clintons) isn’t everything, it’s the only thing....”
Thank you again.

[Ciexyz]

I’m satisfied that Rudy will appoint pro-Constitution judges like Roberts and Scalia.

[MHGinTN]

Congratulations, you missed my point almost entirely. The primaries are where we get the people out to vote for what our party stands for. If you people want to change what our party stands for, get ‘er done, but your plea to nominate someone who doesn’t agree with the planks is as absurd as Rudy’s pandering is. You, apparently, are incapable of recognizing the pandering of a liberal in conservative skins, not too covered in those skins, but trying to cover his liberalism. Congratulations on serving the liberal agenda. When I read crap like you posted, I suspect you claim to be a Rudyfile but are in fact a Rodham-rodent agitprop. Hatellary’s goons recognized years ago that Rudy would be easily defeated ... remember the senate run she made and got elected by the liberals of New York? Yeah, you remember, and now you’ll no doubt try to spin that confrontation deferred.

[Gracey]

How can Rudy be flawed when most Republicans support him by a HUGE majority over the second popular candidate. Your logic is FLAWED.

The reason, IMO, that Ronald Reagan was elected twice has more to do with his appeal. He made me and people believe in themselves, in the future of America, he made us feel positive about the future of our country. He was a positive man. Americans love that charisma about their president. It had little to do with pro life, anti gay, social issues. Federal government should keep their noses out of most of these issues, IMO. They belong at the STATE level.

IMO, Mia is one of the brightest, smartest, astute people on this forum. Her goal, as is mine.... is to DEFEAT the MARXIST/Socialist/Hitler/ candidate Hillary Clinton....or Obama/Osama/Hussein. There is no other candidate at this moment that shows an ability to win. If and when that candidate shows up, I’ll be supporting that R candidate. To do anything else is plain IDIOTIC and Suicidal politically speaking.

Go MIA..... we love you and what you’ve done for FR.

[Gracey]

I’m glad to see there are many GREAT freepers who have a sane perception this election year. Thanks for all you’ve done.

[dirtboy]

How can Rudy be flawed when most Republicans support him by a HUGE majority over the second popular candidate. Your logic is FLAWED.

Your premises are flawed. It's still a long ways to the primaries, and Rudy's support is slipping. And it will continue to slip as Rudy commits gaffe after gaffe.

Rudy's only hope is that the conservative vote splits. However, that is no way to win the general election. He will not hold the party.

[Gracey]

I agree with you that Rudy is not perfect, but neither is Fred Thompson, who I like a lot. My favorite is Duncan Hunter, an honest, decent man .... with views that I totally agree. However, he’s a 1@ candidate with little appeal. We need someone THIS ELECTION that has the ability to win the moderates, independents, to BEAT THE MARXIST. Do you understand what life will be like in American with Hitlary in there for 8 YEARS. We will never be able to survive an UNAmerican president. She wants to make this Europe Socialism.

WAKE UP AMERICA. We can survive Giuliani, we cannot survive HILLARY. Take your pick.

[dirtboy]

I agree with you that Rudy is not perfect, but neither is Fred Thompson, who I like a lot

Fred is a lot more conservative than Rudy. He's from the center of the party, and that is a position where he can hold the party together.

We can survive Giuliani, we cannot survive HILLARY.

I'm not so sure we can survive either, given Rudy's authoritarian tendencies and his willingness to disregard the law when it suits him.

[trisham]

This is a joke question, right?

[KATIE-O]

“....Congratulations on serving the liberal agenda. When I read crap like you posted, I suspect you claim to be a Rudyfile but are in fact a Rodham-rodent agitprop....”

Congratulations on your making my Ignore List with a few other namecallers who cannot debate the issues but resort to cheap shots.

[Eric Blair 2084]

To the FReepers in attendance and the millions watching around the world on Pay Per View…Ladies and Gentleman...

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“LET'S GET READY TO RUMBLE!"® is a registered Trademark of Michael Buffer, all rights reserved.

1,500,000,000 rounds of posts, arguments, insults, cheesy graphics, name calling, and ad hominem personal attacks that pass as debate for the FUTURE OF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY!

"Introducing first, to my right, fighting out of the red corner, wearing their Sunday best with a gold crucifix...weighing in at 810 and 1/4 pounds...the social conservatives, the religious right, the champions of family values...from the Southern States...The Evangelicals!" (wild applause)

"And in the blue corner, wearing an off the rack suit, Goldwater ’64 lapel pin and a belt 2 sizes too small...weighing in at 141 pounds soaking wet...the fiscal conservatives, the last champions of limited government...from the Western States...The Libertarians!" (wild applause)

Chapter 1: Live From the Reagan Building

[Eric Blair 2084]

You obviously took a long time to post this, and it needs to be aired. Thank you.

[B Knotts]

Uh...no.

The dispute is not between “evangelicals” and “libertarians.”

The people supporting Giuliani are not libertarians. Giuliani is pretty much the polar opposite of a liberatarian.

[Jim Noble]

Why is it you cannot see how similar Rudy is to the Rodham-rodent?

Because he isn't.

Do you seriously believe that if HRC had followed David Dinkens as mayor of NY in 1993, that all of the crime and pathology that characterized NY in the 70s and 80s would not have gotten worse, instead of better?

Does HRC believe criminals are at fault for their crimes, and should be punished? Does HRC believe welfare recipients do not have a right to the money and should be made to work? Does HRC believe blasphemy should not be paid for with public money? Does HRC believe pornography and prostitution laws should be vigorously enforced, and that families and children should be protected from both?

Would HRC have ordered Arafat to be confined to his hotel in NYC, or would she have welcomed Yassir and Suha to Gracie Mansion? Would HRC have told the Saudi price to shove ten million dollares up his toches, or would she have kissed him there?

You people who think Rudy and Hillary are the same are delusional.

[Wolverine]

bump

[Eric Blair 2084]

First of all, let me just say that the idea that human beings are even asking for the right to kill their own children is baffling.

Why are we even having this debate? Not even Rats (and I mean real rats not Democrats) would do this to their own unborn offspring.

I was reading the liberal NE newspapers today talking about the SCOTUS decision and some of them saw fit to place pictures of what looked like Bible thumpers hunched over in prayer on the sidewalk for dramatic effect.(tell me why, or I will) I don’t care if you believe in Jesus, Muhammed, Moses, Vishnu, Buddha, Mark Messier or any other God or deity.

The idea of sticking a sharp object into a human beings head to deliberately kill them is reprehensible and inhuman. You don’t need to be born again (and I don’t need to be since my mother got it right the first time) to know that. It’s immoral, inhumane and disgusting.

What the hell was I talking about? I forgot the whole topic of the thread? Oh yeah, Rudy. I do have a problem with somebody who ever at any time approved of Gubmint sanctioning of killing viable human beings.

I’m going to go watch the South Park episode I TiVo’d last night. I’ll be back in 20 minutes to hear everyone.

[Extremely Extreme Extremist]

Like I said in a previous post. Her and Registered have really sunk in credibility.