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The Rudy Giuliani Truth File in his own words and deeds

Posted on 04/25/2007 3:41:28 AM PDT by Jim Robinson

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To: Silly; TommyDale
"I suppose you think Jesus would be a conservative, right?"

TommyDale; Arguing with Silly is well, silly.

Silly; Actually, I think it is the other way around:

Conservatives are conservatives because of Jesus.

We Conservatives have great respect for our Constitution, and the founders of this great country.

The reason for much of its greatness is due to the fact that the founders were Christians, and the Constitution was written from that perspective.

We conservatives will continue to promote conservatives to public office and expose liberals in the hopes that none of them are elected because that is what we do.

81 posted on 04/25/2007 6:18:09 AM PDT by Designer II
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To: panthermom

God also gave us laws to live by, you know morals, something that the liberals in charge of big cities totally disregard.

Well, I think an awful lot of liberals would disagree with you about their disregard for the law. But the fact is, liberals and conservatives both have a contempt for the law. The problem is, each side can only see the other’s sin, and not his own.

And speaking of laws, the Gospel is not “a set of laws” we live by. That is religion. The Gospel says, God died for our lawbreaking as an act of love. His forgiveness and love are so real and powerful (not theoretical or mental constructs) that our lives change in response to that love. And when our hearts change, our actions change, and become in step with the law — the ultimate law, the law of love.


82 posted on 04/25/2007 6:19:04 AM PDT by Silly (http://www.sarcasmoff.com)
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To: Silly
"Silly."

Nuff said.........ROTFLMBO.

83 posted on 04/25/2007 6:19:09 AM PDT by Liz (Hunter: For some candidates, a conservative constituency is an inconvenience. For me, it is my hope.)
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To: Jim Robinson

When I saw this article on FR awhile back I wished I could help Jim Riches in his efforts to Swiftboat Rudy. It seems we are working towards the same end. If anyone in NYC could get a hold of Jim Riches maybe he has some information from the firemen that he could share with us and maybe we could possibly work together with them.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1822992/posts


84 posted on 04/25/2007 6:19:22 AM PDT by Elyse (I refuse to feed the crocodile.)
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To: Silly

That is silly. Jesus would look at the pregnant woman and say “Go and sin no more.” Killing an innocent life is sinning, so I’m pretty sure he’d tell her not to. And why does “taxpayer expense” come into it? What about individual responsibility for your actions? He was pretty big on that too. (You know, every one of us will give an account for ourselves and all that.)


85 posted on 04/25/2007 6:19:48 AM PDT by StarCMC (Honor military recruiters in all 50 states ~ May 19, 2007 ~ http://gatheringofeagles.org/?p=257)
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To: Liz

Thank you for your penetrating political analysis. Stay in school!


86 posted on 04/25/2007 6:20:07 AM PDT by Silly (http://www.sarcasmoff.com)
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To: Designer II
Conservatives are conservatives because of Jesus.

Unless they are Jewish.

87 posted on 04/25/2007 6:20:39 AM PDT by veronica
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To: Silly; Bigh4u2

“The adults are talking, kid. Go clean your room.

How very Christian of you.

Oh the hypocrisy.


88 posted on 04/25/2007 6:20:55 AM PDT by battletank
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To: TommyDale
As a matter of fact, I have supported unwed mothers.

Really. In what manner. I'd like to hear more about that.

89 posted on 04/25/2007 6:21:48 AM PDT by veronica
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To: Jim Robinson
Way to go, Jim!

The Giuliani administration's disgraceful abuse of asset forfeiture laws -- which were used to seize the vehicles of motorists accused of drunk driving (even those that were found not guilty in court) -- disqualifies this moron from ever holding government office in a free nation.

I'll post a lengthy rant on this specific issue -- with as much detail as I can get my hands on -- sometime over the next week or so.

90 posted on 04/25/2007 6:21:59 AM PDT by Alberta's Child
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To: Jim Robinson

“I do believe there’s global warming, yes. ...The big question has always been how much of it is happening because of natural climate changes and
how much of it is happening because of human intervention. ... The overwhelming number of scientists now believe that there is significant human cause.’’
The debate on the existence of global warming is “is almost unnecessary...because we should be dealing with pollution anyway.”

—Rudolph Giuliani, San Francisco Chronicle, February 12, 2007


91 posted on 04/25/2007 6:22:28 AM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: Silly

I did. I think you’re taking something very simple and trying to make it complex. I did a research paper many moons ago when I was in college about gun control and it’s effects on society. There are numerous studies out there to support the fact that an armed society is a less crime ridden society. I wish I could remember details... there was a town - in FL I think - that had a rising crime problem - especially against women. They ran a very publicized campaign to arm it’s citizens - especially women - and the crime rates dropped dramatically. Now, if it works in ONE town, why would you think it wouldn’t work in the larger ones? It makes no sense to me for you to choose to disbelieve - it’s a logical extension of previous experiences.


92 posted on 04/25/2007 6:24:52 AM PDT by StarCMC (Honor military recruiters in all 50 states ~ May 19, 2007 ~ http://gatheringofeagles.org/?p=257)
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To: StarCMC
..but you have to realize that one of the reasons criminals feel free to attack people is that they don’t expect the average person to be carrying. If you remove the restrictions from law abiding citizens, at the very least, it would cause a mugger to stop and think about it.

A proven fact, pure and simple.

If anyone has any doubts, read the works of John Lott.

93 posted on 04/25/2007 6:24:57 AM PDT by evad
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To: calcowgirl; ellery
.......I just read a 1995 Newsday article about NY crime statistics. According to info they send to the FBI, “the rate of serious crime in Tallahassee is nearly 80 percent higher” than in New York City. You made a good point in your post about manipulating statistics. It’s an art, not a science. LOL. I collected those last week and posted them to ellery. Ellery has put together a pretty good collection of constitutional abuses, by the numbers........

N-i-c-e work. Your contributions to FR are greatly appreciated.

94 posted on 04/25/2007 6:25:11 AM PDT by Liz (Hunter: For some candidates, a conservative constituency is an inconvenience. For me, it is my hope.)
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To: StarCMC
That is silly. Jesus would look at the pregnant woman and say “Go and sin no more.”

He would do much more than that. He would also admonish his church to provide for all her needs, until they were completely met.

Hey, what about your individual responsibility for your own sins? If you're so big on individual reponsibility, why are you relying on God's grace and Jesus' sacrifice to make up for your failings? You couldn't take personal responsibility for your sin even if you tried. Not even 1% of it.

See my point? Liberalism says, "We're not responsible, we're just born that way." Conservatism says, "We are responsible, now just watch us while we take personal responsibility -- and admonish others to do the same, loudly."

The Gospel says, "I am responsible for my own sin, but can do nothing on my own. I need God's love and grace to forgive my debts."

95 posted on 04/25/2007 6:26:16 AM PDT by Silly (http://www.sarcasmoff.com)
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To: veronica

LOL!!! ZING!

Actually - I think it should be “because of the Judeo-Christian moral code.” That’s actually more true.


96 posted on 04/25/2007 6:28:14 AM PDT by StarCMC (Honor military recruiters in all 50 states ~ May 19, 2007 ~ http://gatheringofeagles.org/?p=257)
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To: calcowgirl
“I do believe there’s global warming, yes. ...The big question has always been how much of it is happening because of natural climate changes and how much of it is happening because of human intervention."

There IS global warming. I was listening to Hugh Hewitt last week and he had a guy on who has written a book to counter Al Gore vis a vis global warming. And he said what Rudy said. The earth is warmer by a tiny (teeny-tiny) bit - BUT the question IS "how much of it is happening because of natural climate changes and how much of it is happening because of human intervention." You are trying to make it sound like Rudy buys in to the Gore version of global warming, which he does not.

97 posted on 04/25/2007 6:28:53 AM PDT by veronica
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To: Silly

Have I told you lately that your intellectual vacuity is s-o-o-o-o attractive?


98 posted on 04/25/2007 6:29:14 AM PDT by Liz (Hunter: For some candidates, a conservative constituency is an inconvenience. For me, it is my hope.)
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To: freedomfiter2

I’m all for fighting it out in the primaries, but then I always support the Republican nominee, whoever it is, and I always vote.

“Third party,” “Write-in,” “Stay home” and “Leave blank” are the spoil sports who take the ball and go home.

The Third Party Perot vote gave the Presidency to Clinton in 1992, but I’m sure all those who voted for Perot were proud of themselves — they were able to get rid of GHW Bush.


99 posted on 04/25/2007 6:30:13 AM PDT by RottiBiz
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To: Silly

Don’t pick up the bait. ;)


100 posted on 04/25/2007 6:33:21 AM PDT by veronica
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