"America's Rabbi" Warns: "Enormous, Humanic and Historic Upheaval" Rapidly Approaching

LifeSiteNews ^ | 6/25/07 | John-Henry Westen

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Interview with Rabbi Daniel Lapin on How Today's World Compares to the Days of Noah

By John-Henry Westen

WASHINGTON, DC, June 25, 2007 (LifeSiteNews.com) - The recent death of Mrs. Ruth Graham, the beloved wife of preacher Billy Graham, has caused renewed reflection on her oft quoted comment:  "If God does not judge America soon, he'll have to apologize to Sodom and Gomorrah."  Indeed, with the culture war raging on abortion and same-sex 'marriage', many a Christian has wondered about a coming purgation - a cleansing as in the time of Noah and the flood.

It may come as a surprise to some, but Orthodox Jews too have a belief in a coming purgation.  As the man popularly known as "America's Rabbi" told LifeSiteNews.com, we are "moving towards some kind of enormous, humanic and historic upheaval."

Nationally acclaimed speaker and best-selling author, Rabbi Daniel Lapin spoke with LifeSiteNews.com about his newly released audio series "The Gathering Storm: Decoding the Secrets of Noah", in which he looks at the similarities between the time of Noah and our present day.

Rabbi Lapin is the founder and leader of Toward Tradition - a ground-breaking coalition of Jews, Christians and other Americans united in fighting secular fundamentalism and promoting traditional, faith-based American principles of constitutional and limited government, the rule of law, representative democracy, free markets, a strong military, and a moral public culture.

Key to interpreting the Bible (the Old Testament) suggests the Rabbi, is the Hebrew language.  In that language, he notes, the Bible tells that in the time just before the flood there were aborted babies.  "Everyone is familiar with that section just before the flood, of giants," said Rabbi Lapin.  "The King James translation refers to these people as giants - one thing, in the Hebrew, it becomes immediately very clear is that what we really are talking about is aborted people, aborted fetuses." 

"In Hebrew," explained the Rabbi there is "one word for giants (and) aborted fetuses." Comparing the time of Noah to the current day, the Rabbi said, "Babies that are aborted eventually bring about a culture of death that destroys society."

Asked if Jews, like some Christians, feel a time of purgation is coming, Rabbi Lapin replied bluntly, "Yes, it is extremely intense." 

The Rabbi stressed however that a Judeo-Christian view of the end of time is a hopeful one, in contrast to the secular view of the end of time which sees only doom and gloom.  "There is a dichotomy here between a secular world view in which the end of time is hopeless," Rabbi Lapin told LifeSiteNews.com. "It is doomed.  It ends in oblivion . . .  Right now it is global warming, a few years ago it was nuclear winter.  Before that it was that we were all going to starve and die naked and cold when Thomas Malthus at the end of the 18th century made his predictions."

"The secular world view will generate an end of time picture of hopelessness and doom and by contrast a Biblical world view of both Jews and Christians shows an end of time picture that, while it may have its turbulent threshold, is a time of some kind of unimaginable solution to all human problems."

Asked, if it would be "a time of renewal of goodness on earth?," the Rabbi replied, "Exactly right. Yes."

As for God having to apologize to Sodom and Gomorrah for not acting on America for its sins, Rabbi Lapin suggests God is in fact acting on America.  "God doesn't necessarily act towards every culture in the same way," he said.  "Every culture that adopts abortion and homosexuality as normal is a culture that begins to decline and eventually vanish off the stage of world history - that is God acting."

"That is precisely the point.  It is not that hard to see in many ways the fortunes of the US of A are simply not where they were before these twin scourges became prevalent.  Yes, He is acting - He is not going to have to apologize to Sodom at all.  He is being very consistent.  He may not be burying us in thunderbolts and mountains of salt but the damage that the US of A is enduring is no less fatal."

Rabbi Lapin sees another striking similarity between our day and the time of the Biblical flood.  Noting the political situation in the United States, where the major argumentation seems focussed on abortion and same-sex 'marriage, Rabbi Lapin observes: "Undoubtedly, it was very significant, that never before in a presidential election has there been this much focus on the faith and beliefs of the candidates which again brings us back to this Noah like period in which divisions between people are lining up very clearly on a spiritual level."

While Rabbi Lapin rejects any attempt to fix a date on the coming upheaval, he does say that it is rapidly approaching.  "What is unquestionably crystal clear is that time and history is accelerating.  Things happen more quickly now than ever before so it is moving rapidly towards this event, whatever it will look like."

[Quix]

Loving, healthily affectionate, firm, kind fathering would cure most homosexuality before it started.

AND

DISCIPLINE

WITHOUT RELATIONSHIP [HEALTHY, BONDED, EMOTIONALLY CONNECTED AND MUTUALLY RESPECTFUL]

RESULTS IN REBELLION, YIELDS REBELLION, PRODUCES REBELLION.

[Quix]

NEVERTHELESS,

For most? of those Scriptures, giants fits and aborted babies doesn’t fit.

However, it is also foolish to avoid the—at least big hint—that the abortion thing is ALSO a serious issue with God in such situations.

[Deut28]

Oh, I agree. “Giants” tends to make the most sense. I wasn’t positing “miscarriage” as the better translation, just sharing some of the information I found relevant to the discussion.

Getting hung up on the word nephilim risks losing sight of the message in those passages. I don’t think the message hinges on the word nephilim.

Interesting side note. My Firefox spell checker catches “nephilim” as a spelling error, and the first correction offered is “philistine.”

[Quix]

Interesting.

BTW,

have folks noticed . . . . Microslop’s dictionary is very PC/GLOBAL TYRANNY KOSHER.

It lacks a lot of words important to the Judeo Christian value system.

I don’t have examples off the top of my head but I run into it quite frequently.

[Aquinasfan]

Perhaps the truth of the Cross will take root in Asia, or reclaim its birth place, or something else we can't fathom. But Christ will remain.

True.

[OB1kNOb]

Thank you for the info.

[Zionist Conspirator]

You’re welcome!

[Zionist Conspirator]

I just thought of something! The verse's beginning HaNefilim hayu va'aretz bayamim hahem instead of Vayehi hanefilim ba'aretz bayamim hahem *could* indicate that the verb is being used as a past perfect: "There had been nefilim in those days . . . and after that" etc. The Oral Tradition and the Great Commentators find meaning when a verb form seems unusual or not what it would be ordinarily. For example, because the fourth chapter of Genesis begins VeHa'Adam yada` 'et Chavvah 'Ishto instead of Yayeda` Ha'Adam 'et Chavvah 'ishto they teach that this means that Cain and Abel had already been born in the Garden rather than their births taking place where they are first mentioned chronologically in the narrative. A similar argument has been made to suggest that Jacob had already fed his brother Esau before he bought his birthright, ie, that he didn't essentially force the birthright out of a hungry man. This is because Genesis 25: 34 begins VeYa`aqov natan ("and Jacob had *already given*") rather than Vayitten Ya`aqov ("*then* [after Esau sold him his birthright] Jacob gave him"). You see why the Bible can't really be translated, folks?

The only problem with this is why is the word nefilim in the verse with the definite article (ha = "the")? Why does it said that there had been THE abortions/miscarriages instead of just abortions/miscarriages? HaNefilim is definitely referring to something specific.

[Zionist Conspirator]

Oops! Post 148 was meant for you!

[Marysecretary]

That’s right. I believe all you’ve said. America doesn’t seem to be mentioned much in prophecy but maybe we’re missing something. There is always a remnant. May we be strengthened and encouraged by that.

[Marysecretary]

Agree! Mxxx

[Radix]

I simply do not have the free time to post at length on matters, that I used to have.

So then, often I am abrupt, and I do not come across so well.

It is my opinion that most of the folks who post out here on FR.com on these “Crevo” threads tend to post with a preset opinion, and are unlikely to be convinced of anything contrary to what they already adhere to.

I also think that those on the “Evo” side do come off as seriously arrogant and quite condescending.

As far as the Bible is concerned, there seem to be few who have even attempted to study what it says before making comments on either side of the “debate.”

This certainly is not Bible Study, and if it were, I suspect that you’d opt out anyhow.

You may think that there is no substance to my words here but I certainly have my view of the issues, and I have done a bit of work in my attempts to understand more.

I suppose that I must have personally insulted you somewhere along the way. Personally I do not think that if I called a person ignorant that I am guilty of insulting them. Sine I referred to you as brilliant, and you consider that to be an insult, you must have quite a high opinion of yourself.

Sorry, that is as far as you’ll get me to go. If my calling you brilliant offends you, well then continue to feel offended.

On the other hand, if you are so brilliant that you can detect sarcasm when you encounter it, well then you probably are brilliant, but sensitive too.

So then, carry on with the arrogant condescending types who unceasingly post things that are derisive, and occasionally I’ll pop in.

I fully expect you to take the high road now and call me a master of insults, and whatever else. You likely will not address the fact that you actually do not really have any serious notion about what the Bible really says.

[MHGinTN]

For your edification/enjoyment:

Genesis 6:4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.

Numbers 13:33 And there we saw the giants, the sons of Anak, which come of the giants: and we were in our own sight as grasshoppers, and so we were in their sight.

Deuteronomy 2:11 Which also were accounted giants, as the Anakims; but the Moabites called them Emims.

Deuteronomy 2:20 (That also was accounted a land of giants: giants dwelt therein in old time; and the Ammonites call them Zamzummims;

[ladyinred]

This is excellent!

[wagglebee]

Yes it is!

[Suzy Quzy]

There is a huge group that thinks it doesn’t matter....that there is no God.....or that EVERYONE (except Hitler) is going to heaven because there is no hell.

[Suzy Quzy]

Real people of faith are always comfortable with Christians.

[Suzy Quzy]

God made Adam and Eve....not Adam and Steve.

God also does NOT like his Gifts of Life to be KILLED.

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And true Christians shouldn’t have any discomfort with orthodox Jews.

[Suzy Quzy]

Up is Down

Good is Bad

Right is Wrong

Black is White

Sure signs of end times.