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A Pyrrhic Victory (Sour Grapes from Linda Chavez)
Townhall ^ | June 29, 2007 | Linda Chavez

Posted on 06/29/2007 8:46:21 AM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia

Immigration reform is dead. But before conservatives who killed this bill start popping champagne corks, they ought to consider the following.

Our borders will be less secure, not more. Employers who want to do the right thing and only hire legal workers won't have the tools to do so. The 12 million illegal aliens who are here now will continue to live in the shadows, making them less likely to cooperate with law enforcement to report crimes and less likely to pay their full share of taxes. In other words, the mess we created by an outdated and ill-conceived immigration policy 20 years ago will just get worse.

But you won't hear this if you tune in to talk radio over the next few days or read conservative blogs. There will be lots of gloating over having killed "amnesty." There will be claims that senators finally "listened to the people." And, no doubt, some conservatives will be emboldened to consider the next step in their war against illegal immigration, namely to deport those now here illegally.

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But none of this matters to the radio talk show hosts who encouraged their millions of listeners to shut down the congressional phone system with calls protesting "amnesty." Nor does it matter to the myriad direct mail outfits opposing immigration, which will reap tens of millions of dollars in donations to fatten their coffers as a result of this "victory."

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; atzlannorte; aztlan; chavez; congress; deathofthegop; illegalimmigration; immigrantlist; immigration; laraza; lindachavez; mecha; noamnestyforillegals; raza; reconquista; sellout; sellouts; theborg; vampirebill
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To: Dane
>> LOL! You guys got your opium like emotions off killing the bill, but now have to suffer the withdrawl symptoms of your victory. Have a nice hangover. <<

Hi Dane! I knew you were still alive. Still awaiting your responce about the 2/3rds of freshmen Congressman voting FOR Tancredo's bill to deny federal aid to sancurity cities for illegals. Kinda weird how they'd all vote that way when "every" candidate who ran on illegal immigration in a contested seat was defeated, eh?

It must really suck to be you right now.

121 posted on 06/29/2007 11:12:53 AM PDT by BillyBoy (FACT: Governors WIN. Senators DON'T. Support the RIGHT Thompson in '08: www.tommy2008.com.)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

SHE’S BAAAAAACK......


122 posted on 06/29/2007 11:13:32 AM PDT by dennisw
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To: from occupied ga
Her support of shamnesty would still make her a loyal republican of the Bush flavor.

This is true.
123 posted on 06/29/2007 11:16:15 AM PDT by HaveHadEnough
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To: Mean Maryjean

My bro overstayed his in Guatemala. Then, he couldn’t get an exit visa to go into Mexico and the Mexicans definitely wouldn’t let him in. It was “go back or go to Mexican jail.”

What a mess.


124 posted on 06/29/2007 11:20:49 AM PDT by OpusatFR
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To: dennisw

From the TownHall comments-—>>>

Did you catch Pan-Mexican Quisling-In-Chief Presidente Jorge speaking with acute chagrin about the demise of Scamnesty?! Talk about a lame duck— he looked like a dead duck! Sometimes we reap what we sow. Jorge told them recently while visiting his amigos in Mexico that he personally would work for THEM on immigration “reform” HERE. He had already surreptitiously agreed on his own to send non-existent S.S. funds (taxed as we go) south to Mexico. He has played a shell game with border security and enforcement— a wink that was well known to the border crashers. He had had his lackeys persecute and prosecute Campean and Ramos in a show trial with kangaroo justice, in part to influence last year’s Mexican election.

Stick a fork in that turkey Jorge— he is done. Contrary to what some gadfly naysayers have brayed generally and in Washington in shameful red herring fashion, we were NOT “fearful xenophobes”. The fear was of our own deceiptful, duplicitous government! There is NO TRUST that Jorge would EVER mean his facile lines about, “Of course, border security and enforcement must come first.” we know that thousands of agents have been approved and 800 miles of fence, but NOTHING done. Sell that tripe to the Polish Navy Jorge! We have been down that primrose path with “we will not engage in nation building” and we “will be fiscally responsible.” Once burned, shame on you,... twice burned, shame on us!


125 posted on 06/29/2007 11:51:00 AM PDT by dennisw
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
some conservatives will be emboldened to consider the next step in their war against illegal immigration, namely to deport those now here illegally.

That's a very good idea. Why didn't I think of it? /S off

Seriously, Linda:

1- We don't need your permission to be "emboldened" in our own country

2- Tell your buddies in La Raza to start their promised marches "that could become violent". I dare you.

We've had enough of the likes of you. Your camp is right, this ain't over yet. We'll start a campaign to enact the 10/2006 signed bill to build the fence and enforce the sieve, err, border. We'll write local laws to punish the employers who hire illegals and kick them out for good.

This invasion by flag-burning,crotch-grabbing, finger-flipping thugs will not stand.

126 posted on 06/29/2007 12:11:52 PM PDT by melancholy (Quiz: name one country, other than the USA, that doesn't control its borders.)
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To: RKV

And let’s also take down the artificial barriers that prevent government agencies from reporting illegals to the INS.


127 posted on 06/29/2007 12:33:52 PM PDT by bt_dooftlook (Democrats - the "No Child/Left/Behind" Party)
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To: jpl
And oh yeah, one more thing: suck on it, bitch.

Is this your picture?


128 posted on 06/29/2007 12:34:40 PM PDT by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
Anti Amnesty-shill Sarcasm Torpedo ARMED. FIRE!!

Here's a peso, call someone who cares.

129 posted on 06/29/2007 2:09:14 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Dane
LOL...hangover for sure!

The Congressional Budget Office estimates the fence will cost $3.2 million a mile, Congress voted to hand DHS just $1.2 billion in fiscal year 2007 for construction. DHS needs to use half of it for other purposes besides the fence like technology and roadways. With say half of the 3.2 left what do you get...a little over 150 miles of fence? It's a down payment on 700 miles ....and they ain't getting no more now. In addition the Dems are already working on the "Dream Act".

Party time over!


130 posted on 06/29/2007 3:12:40 PM PDT by Earthdweller (All reality is based on faith in something.)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Chavez is trolling the same bogus line about this being a ‘good deal’ for conservatives because we’d get all these ‘wonderful goodies’ with the amnesty.

“Our borders will be less secure, not more.”

the only reason this would be so would be that Bush does even less that before - out of spite. THERE IS NOTHING STOPPING THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION FROM BUILDING THE 800 MILES OF FENCE ALREADY AUTHORIZED AND PAID FOR. And he can always call in the National Guard like he did last year.

“Employers who want to do the right thing and only hire legal workers won’t have the tools to do so.”

So we are to believe employers cant figure out if they are hiring illegal aliens today? And we cant simply fix *only that* in a law? Why not?

” The 12 million illegal aliens who are here now will continue to live in the shadows, making them less likely to cooperate with law enforcement to report crimes and less likely to pay their full share of taxes.”

Most illegal aliens would GET MORE GOVT BENEFITS if they were granted citizenship, so for taxpayers it is plus for them to stay ‘in the shadows’.

As for the issue of criminality, we are taling about 12 million people who disregard our immigration law... now how does forgiving that help improve “rule of law”? It doesnt, but it does the exact opposite. Especially since even petty criminals and people subject to deportation orders could get the special deal.


131 posted on 06/29/2007 4:00:41 PM PDT by WOSG (thank the Senators who voted "NO": 202-224-3121, 1-866-340-9281)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

ANOTHER REASON THIS PRO-AMNESTY BS IS FOOLISH:

In 2006, the GOP led Senate had more than 60 votes for a liberal amnesty bill.

In 2007, the Dem led Senate tried but failed to get 60 votes for a slightly stricter amnesty bill, but which was more generous on the amnesty (everyone before jan 1 2007 gets in).

In fact, enough squishy support peeled away that it didnt even crack 50 votes.

... I PREDICT THAT IN 2008 THEY WILL TRY ANOTHERE RUN WITH A NARROWER BILL. MAYBE THE DREAM ACT. I hope they fail again with whatever amnesty/ahamnesty bill they put forward.

EACH TIME THEY TRY AND FAIL, THE MORE PROGRESS *WE* MAKE BY EXPOSING THE REAL PROBLEM AS A LACK OF BORDER SECURITY AND UNWILLINGNESS TO ENFORCE THE LAWS WE ALREADY HAVE.


132 posted on 06/29/2007 4:14:48 PM PDT by WOSG (thank the Senators who voted "NO": 202-224-3121, 1-866-340-9281)
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To: SIDENET

“Who cares what that racist has to say?”

La Raza..the Klan with a Tan


133 posted on 06/29/2007 4:22:57 PM PDT by DesScorp
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Our borders will not be any less secure than they’ve been since our government deicded to quit enforcing the law.

ENFORCE THE LAW, CLOSE THE BORDERS AND DEPORT ILLEGALS!


134 posted on 06/29/2007 4:40:09 PM PDT by pepperdog
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To: Dane
Ha-ha, that's a good one. And here's you:


135 posted on 06/29/2007 4:47:03 PM PDT by jpl
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To: flashbunny
And as a reminder, Chavez is the one who lost her chance at a white house appointment because it was discovered she was giving money to an illegal alien LIVING IN HER HOME!!!

Wow. I forgot about that. MAN, these people have nerve.

136 posted on 06/29/2007 4:53:47 PM PDT by Lijahsbubbe
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To: DesScorp

I AM stealing that, you know. :p


137 posted on 06/29/2007 5:15:52 PM PDT by Politicalmom (Nearly 1% of illegals are in prison for felonies. Less than 1/10 of 1% of the legal population is.)
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To: SIDENET

Chavez has always wanted to be Bush’s poodle.


138 posted on 06/29/2007 5:17:30 PM PDT by cowdog77 (" Are there any brave men left in Washington, or are they all cowards?")
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To: Dane

I am sure that plenty of illegal aliens appreciate the employment from bosses, but that’s its not ‘silly’ to wonder if a Secty of Labor should be blase about labor laws.
Also, not good to have something that tripped up Clinton appointees trip up a Bush appointee. They needed better vetting.


139 posted on 06/29/2007 6:38:11 PM PDT by WOSG (thank the Senators who voted "NO": 202-224-3121, 1-866-340-9281)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

“The immigration bill failed because the politicians in Washington are out of touch with the American people. The voice of the people is loud and clear - secure the border, enforce the law and no special deal for permanent residency or citizenship for illegals. America will always welcome legal immigration, but as a nation we also insist on the rule of law.”

Mitt Romney....June 28th 2007!


140 posted on 06/29/2007 8:54:59 PM PDT by TheLion (How about "Comprehensive Immigration Enforcement," for a change)
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