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Would you be in favor of Amnesty if the borders were truly secure?
Free Republic | June 29, 2007 | Eric Blair

Posted on 06/30/2007 4:02:33 PM PDT by Eric Blair 2084

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To: Eric Blair 2084

After every employer of illegals is in prison, all social services to illegals are3 cut off, the anchor baby laws are reversed and we see what the fall out of all of the above after 5 years come talk to me.


61 posted on 06/30/2007 4:28:41 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: Eric Blair 2084
If the border were truly secure, would you be in favor of a similar bill?

Sure, for the right people.

Those that have worked here for at least three years, have paid their income taxes, not had any run-ins with the law, those that are not gang members, those that didn't steal anyone's identity to get a job/housing/utilities/vote/etc... Just like the supporters of this bill described them - hard working and law abiding.

And none of this 24 hour background check crap. The government has to check the applicant's name and address against the Social Security data base, the County Voter Registration rolls, and so on.

62 posted on 06/30/2007 4:29:12 PM PDT by de meanr (No Amnesty)
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To: FightThePower!
“1. Must be able to speak and read english.
2. Must provide your own healthcare.
3. Must not have a criminal background.”

That’s a recipe for our national destruction. If we allow them to stay...and vote...they will expand to become the majority voting demographic in the US by about 2040. When that happens we are finished.

63 posted on 06/30/2007 4:29:55 PM PDT by RavenATB
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To: Eric Blair 2084

No, but I would take it over what we have now - but only if, indeed, the borders were in fact made FULLY secure.


64 posted on 06/30/2007 4:31:29 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: mathluv

“stop anchor babies.”

My grandparents came from Scotland as immigrants, met here and wed (still not citizens when they wed). My Dad was born and automatically became an American Citizen. Are you saying this is wrong???


65 posted on 06/30/2007 4:31:34 PM PDT by Lokibob (Some people are like slinkys. Useless, but if you throw them down the stairs, you smile.)
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To: Eric Blair 2084

After ALL legal backlogs are cleared, IF more workers are REALLY needed, I would go along with guest workers that had to LEAVE every year or so. They don’t get families, and this is all predicated on NO MORE ANCHOR BABIES.


66 posted on 06/30/2007 4:32:38 PM PDT by Politicalmom (Nearly 1% of illegals are in prison for felonies. Less than 1/10 of 1% of the legal population is.)
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To: Eric Blair 2084

No.
As some other Freeper said: “Rewarding criminal behaviour is not good pubic policy”

I would add to that that the number of law breakers, (twelve million by official estimates, 35 million if you add in those illegals here in my small rural Indiana town) should make no difference.

If we say the number of illegals is “too large to deal with” then by that logic we should immediately quit prosecuting pot smokers, and give all those in jail amnesty.

Our society depends upon the rule of law!

This country could not have become the most free, prosperous nation on Earth without it.


67 posted on 06/30/2007 4:32:49 PM PDT by EEDUDE
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To: Eric Blair 2084

No.


68 posted on 06/30/2007 4:33:17 PM PDT by 1lawlady (To G-d be the glory. Great things He has done!)
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To: Eric Blair 2084

If for the next 20 years I am allowed to break the law by not paying income tax only to at the end of said 20 years pay a mere $5000. fine, then -and only then- might I consider it.


69 posted on 06/30/2007 4:33:21 PM PDT by anonsquared
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To: Eric Blair 2084
And another thing. 25% of the people who applied for amnesty after the '86 bill used forged documents. The government has to prove that the applicant's documents aren't forged or false in any way. They'll have to come up with a method that satisfies me before I'll agree to amnesty.
70 posted on 06/30/2007 4:33:48 PM PDT by de meanr (No Amnesty)
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To: Carbonado
“Texas and California were stolen from us and that is why Mexico is in such bad economic shape."

Intersting that you buddy said that. It's not the first time I've heard it. That seems to be their rationale. For better or worse, that is how they justify this hundreds of years later.

My solution is I'm going to Mexico until this all gets sorted out. It's beautiful there. I'll be on the beach with a Corona if you need me.

71 posted on 06/30/2007 4:34:37 PM PDT by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: HiJinx
No. Amnesty invites clemency for scofflaws and outlaws alike. The Senate Bill was a slippery slope and defies constitutional equal protection for US citizens and legal immigrants alike.
72 posted on 06/30/2007 4:34:51 PM PDT by BIGLOOK (Keelhauling is a sensible solution to mutiny.)
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To: Eric Blair 2084

Since you really aren’t looking for an answer or debate, why did you post this?

Pray for W and Our Troops


73 posted on 06/30/2007 4:35:40 PM PDT by bray (Member of the FR President Bush underground)
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To: Eric Blair 2084

“How about this: They can never be legal voting citizens, but if the border fence is built in it’s entirety, they can be legal permanent residents or at least guest workers?”

Eric if they are eligible to be “legal permanent residents” they are eligible to be “legal voting citizens”

Legal permanent residents are registered aliens with Alien Registration cards (Green Cards)

That means they are also eligible to become American citizens (legal voting citizens) within a certain time period..

The 25,000,000 illegal aliens should just go back home..They have proven they are not fit to be American citizens..They dont respect our laws or our traditions..

And they dont want to assimilate or become American citizens..


74 posted on 06/30/2007 4:36:06 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Eric Blair 2084

No More Amnesty!!!! 1986 was enough!!!


75 posted on 06/30/2007 4:36:26 PM PDT by FReepapalooza
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To: Eric Blair 2084

No.


76 posted on 06/30/2007 4:36:30 PM PDT by metesky ("Brethren, leave us go amongst them." Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton - Ward Bond- The Searchers)
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To: Eric Blair 2084
They can never be legal voting citizens..

To late, with motor/voter already in place all an illegal needs to do is have a good enough false I.D. to get a drivers licenses and they are automatically handed a voter registration card. Then all they have to do is fill that out and voila they are voting in our elections. Many are and have been since Motor/Voter was enacted.

77 posted on 06/30/2007 4:36:49 PM PDT by ghostkatz (Soon to be Soylent Green.)
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To: Eric Blair 2084

i think they should find a genetic marker on the illegals and develop a powder that makes them die.. like in V.


78 posted on 06/30/2007 4:37:11 PM PDT by pacelvi
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To: HiJinx
Nope. That's what touch-back was all about. That's a rock-hard requirement.

That was another insult to American tax paying voting citizens' intelligence. No way on God's green earth that the family breadwinner was going to go back to Mexico or wherever and leave his kids. In a matter of fact, if he actually did I would have no respect for him.

Another stupid unenforceable law to make up for the actual laws that was designed to fool the unwashed masses.

79 posted on 06/30/2007 4:37:35 PM PDT by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: Eric Blair 2084

nope


80 posted on 06/30/2007 4:38:03 PM PDT by handy (Congress sends troops to battle but they won't take a stand against the NYT undermining our security)
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