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The Neo-Blanshardites vs. the Evangelicals
First Things ^ | July 16, 2007 | Robert P. George

Posted on 07/17/2007 10:50:08 AM PDT by NYer

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Robert P. George is the McCormick Professor of Jurisprudence and director of the James Madison Program in American Ideals and Institutions at Princeton University.
1 posted on 07/17/2007 10:50:10 AM PDT by NYer
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2 posted on 07/17/2007 10:50:43 AM PDT by NYer ("Where the bishop is present, there is the Catholic Church" - Ignatius of Antioch)
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. . .former University of Chicago Provost Geoff Stone, who in condemning the decision as upholding what he ludicrously regarded as a an imposition of the Catholic religion pointedly called attention to the fact that the five justices forming the majority are members of the Catholic Church

No, Geoffy, the decision was based on the fact that partial birth abortion is outright murder, which is a violation of the right to life.

3 posted on 07/17/2007 10:52:17 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: WKB

Might be worth a baptist ping.


4 posted on 07/17/2007 10:58:25 AM PDT by JamesP81 (Keep your friends close; keep your enemies at optimal engagement range)
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To: NYer

>>Our Catholic brothers and sisters will not have to wait to hear our voices forcefully raised against the bigotry now directed against them.<<

I would like to thank each and every one! And may Our Lord bless them!


5 posted on 07/17/2007 10:59:40 AM PDT by netmilsmom (To attack one section of Christianity in this day and age, is to waste time.)
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To: NYer
Leaders of the Presbyterian Church U.S.A., the Episcopal Church, the United Methodist Church, the United Church of Christ, etc. were silent. The prejudice antennae of these leaders–ordinarily so sensitive–seems to shut down when the victims of prejudice are Catholics. Has nothing to do with anti-catholic sentiment and everything to do with the fact that they are pro-abortion.
7 posted on 07/17/2007 11:02:12 AM PDT by kalee (The offenses we give, we write in the dust; Those we take, we write in marble. JHuett)
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Good article. Shows how the only friends of orthodox Catholics in America today are the Evangelicals who are caricatured as "redneck Bible-thumpers" by the MSM.

It also shows how AU was founded by the socialist, atheist, anti-Catholic bigot Paul Blanshard, just as PP was founded by the socialist, atheist, racist, anti-Catholic bigot Margaret Sanger.

8 posted on 07/17/2007 11:02:47 AM PDT by wideawake
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Has nothing to do with anti-catholic sentiment

About 75% of the practicing Episcopalians I have met, and about 100% of the liberal, anti-Akinola practicing Episcopalians I have met, are virulent anti-Catholics.

A good portion of them are people who were raised Catholic but went ECUSA because of their sexual and/or reproductive proclivities.

My personal experience is that if an Episcopalian does not believe the Bible is true, then chances are very good he hates Catholics.

9 posted on 07/17/2007 11:06:54 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: Jibaholic

Wrong friend. I am a Christian 24x7x365 as are most Catholics. There are some that have certainly not been educated in their faith, but that can be said for every religion.


10 posted on 07/17/2007 11:08:10 AM PDT by CTK YKC
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Most Catholics? You have to be kidding. Are you really arguing that Catholic New England goes to church as much as the Protestant south?

And to forestall the obvious rebuttal, I agree that faith is about more than going to church. But church attendence can be measured.

11 posted on 07/17/2007 11:10:18 AM PDT by Jibaholic (http://www.gentlerespect.com)
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“Nor was anything heard from the mainline Protestant denominations that are regarded by many Catholic liberals as Catholicism’s true friends and ecumenical conversation partners. Leaders of the Presbyterian Church U.S.A., the Episcopal Church, the United Methodist Church, the United Church of Christ, etc. were silent.”

No, they are not friends of the Catholic Church. When you mentioned “Baptist ping” I was reminded that the Baptist Church is the only one that works with the Catholic Church in this country.


12 posted on 07/17/2007 11:10:21 AM PDT by MondoQueen
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Not all Catholics are “Chriesters” (Christmas and Easter).
And even if New England is in favor of any kind of abortion and is also nominally Catholic (which I cannot understand) it still doesn’t add up to Catholics being pro-choice and Protestants being pro-life. It just doesn’t add up.


13 posted on 07/17/2007 11:13:06 AM PDT by MondoQueen
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And even if New England is in favor of any kind of abortion and is also nominally Catholic (which I cannot understand) it still doesn’t add up to Catholics being pro-choice and Protestants being pro-life. It just doesn’t add up.

What about it doesn't add up? New England is filled with a bunch of liberal Catholics (or completely lapsed Catholics) and the South is fulled with a bunch of conservative Protestants. I am not holding up cryptic data here. We all know about New England and the South.

14 posted on 07/17/2007 11:16:28 AM PDT by Jibaholic (http://www.gentlerespect.com)
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Nonsense. The Catholic Church is experiencing incredible growth in the South, and we all DO go to church. Even on Wednesday nights just like the Baptists. Some of us go every day.

Southerners are just more conservative and more religious than the average Northeasterner, be they Catholic or Protestant.

(and the idea that the NE is Catholic would come as a huge surprise to the Boston Brahmins and old New Yorkers, not to mention all those Congregationalists and Presbyterians . . . )

15 posted on 07/17/2007 11:17:01 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: Jibaholic

Since there is only one “Church”, and the Catholic church is it, I’d have to say Catholics attend Church at vastly superior numbers to any other denomination. Enjoy attending your ecclesial community meeting come the Lord’s Day. God Bless.


16 posted on 07/17/2007 11:17:26 AM PDT by Namyak (Oderint dum metuant)
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I really don’t know about Catholics in the north east, but that is not the only place catholics reside, nor a valid gauge of Catholic’s Christianity.

That would be like me saying there are no (what ever protty religion) because there is not a church for them in my Midwest town.

Most Catholics are growing in their commitment to Christ, bet out of the northeast and you may see things are really quite different in our wonderful country.


17 posted on 07/17/2007 11:18:09 AM PDT by CTK YKC
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The church is the body of Christ, not (big "c") Catholicism.

Why I am not a Catholic. Let go of the legalism and follow the Holy Spirit. There is a reason why freedom happened in America and not Italy.

18 posted on 07/17/2007 11:19:04 AM PDT by Jibaholic (http://www.gentlerespect.com)
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You post this crap, practically verbaqtim, on every thread related to Christianity.

You do it purely to stir the pot and create bad feeling.

19 posted on 07/17/2007 11:20:35 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: CTK YKC
I really don’t know about Catholics in the north east, but that is not the only place catholics reside, nor a valid gauge of Catholic’s Christianity.

New England is the only place where Catholicism is the majority denomination. It is much easier for a Catholic in the south or midwest to be devout because all their friends are Protestants, and they are devout too. But get a bunch of Catholics together so that they can dictate the cultural norms, and you find apostasy.

20 posted on 07/17/2007 11:20:46 AM PDT by Jibaholic (http://www.gentlerespect.com)
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