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14 Years Later, Mystery Still Remains in the Death of Vince Foster
14 Years Later, Mystery Still Remains in the Death of Vince Foster ^ | July 21, 2007 | Kathy Miller

Posted on 07/22/2007 4:36:02 AM PDT by GFritsch

14 yers ago today, on July 20, 1993, the body of Vincent Walker Foster, Jr. was found in a Virginia park, next to a civil war cannon, with an unidentified revolver lodged in the right hand. Vincent Foster died of a small-caliber gunshot wound to his head.

Vince Foster was not only deputy White House counsel but also the personal attorney to Bill and Hillary Clinton. On the night of Foster’s death, top Clinton aides made a frantic effort to enter and remove documents from his West Wing office. In the days that followed, federal investigators were stymied in their investigation of Foster’s office and strange death.

The following happened within weeks of his death. Vince Foster finally files the missing Whitewater tax returns. On July 19, FBI director William Sessions is fired. Clinton personally orders him by phone to turn in his FBI property and leave headquarters.

That evening, Clinton security aide Jerry Parks' wife Jane says she overhears a heated telephone conversation with Vince Foster in which her husband says, "You can't give Hillary those files, they've got my name all over them."

On July 20, Clinton names Louis Freeh as Sessions' successor.

That same day, the FBI raids David Hale's Little Rock office and seizes documents including those relating to Capital-Management.

Just hours after the search warrant authorizing the raid is signed by a federal magistrate in Little Rock, Vince Foster apparently drives to Ft. Marcy Park.

Foster was found dead of an apparent gunshot wound to the head in Ft. Marcy Park. His unoccupied car, a 1989 Honda, was found in the park's parking lot. Several witnesses - before and after the arrival of the park police - have claimed they saw a briefcase in Foster's car.

A so-called suicide note was found in an office briefcase that had been searched and found to be empty after Foster’s death. The note was torn into 27 pieces. Yet an FBI examination found no trace of Foster’s fingerprints on the note and three independent handwriting experts determined that Foster's suicide note, was a forgery.

The Raid of Vince Foster’s Office While the U.S. Park Police studied the body, Foster's office at the White House was being looted.

Secret Service agent Henry O' Neill watched as Hillary Clinton's chief of staff, Margaret Williams, carried boxes of papers out of Vincent Foster's office before the Park Police showed up to seal it, yet the official identification of Vincent Foster's body by Craig Livingstone did not take place until 10PM!

Another Secret Serviceman saw Craig Livingston remove items from Vincent Foster's office in violation of the official seal. Witnesses also saw Bernard Nussbaum in Foster's office as well. Three witnesses noted that Patsy Thomason, director of the White House's Office of Administration, was desperate to find the combination to Vincent Foster's safe. Ms. Thomason finally opened the safe, apparently with the help of a special "MIG" technical team signed into the White House in the late hours. Two envelopes reported to be in the safe by Foster's secretary Deborah Gorham, addressed to Janet Reno and to William Kennedy III, were never seen again. When asked the next day regarding rumors of the safe opening, Mack McLarty told reporters Foster's office did not even have a safe, a claim immediately shot down by former occupants of that office.

The next day, when the Park Police arrived for the official search of Vincent Foster's office, they were shocked to learn that Nussbaum, Thomason and Williams had entered the office. Conflicts channeled through Janet Reno's Department of Justice resulted in the Park Police merely sitting outside Foster's office while Bernard Nussbaum continued his own search of Foster's office. During this search, he opened and upended Vincent Foster's briefcase, showing it to be empty. Three days later, it would be claimed that this same briefcase was where the torn up suicide note was discovered.

The boxes of documents removed from Foster's office by Hillary Clinton's chief of staff, Margaret Williams, were taken to the private residence area of the White House! Eventually, only 54 pages emerged.

One set of billing records, under subpoena for two years, and thought to have originated in Foster's office, turned up unexpectedly in the private quarters of the White House, with Hillary's fingerprints on them.

So, who ordered the office looting?

Bill Clinton was unavailable, being on camera with Larry King. But Hillary Clinton, who had only the day before diverted her planned return to Washington D.C. to Little Rock, was on the phone from Little Rock to someone at the White House in the moments before the looting took place.

The death of Vince Foster is very unsettling. There is an amazing amount of inconsistent information surrounding his death, the investigation and the autopsy. And, of course, his close relationship with Hillary was intriguing. Many books have claimed that the two were lovers for several years.

To date, several unanswered questions still remain. What did the White House know and when did they know it? Another question: If Foster was not identified as a White House official until at least an hour and a half after police arrived, why were police officers associated with an elite federal unit on the scene within 45 minutes? Evidence suggests that White House officials were informed of Foster's death, at least an hour before they claim to have been initially notified.

The FBI never officially investigated the case but simply signed off on the Park Police "probe." The bureau had little choice.

Later, Robert Fiske, selected by Clinton’s counsel Bernie Nussbaum and Janet Reno, quickly confirmed the Park Police probe as a suicide. Yet, no fewer than three of the paramedics on the scene indicated in reports or testimony that the crime scene was consistent with a murder scene, not a suicide.

? A careful FBI microscopic investigation of Foster’s shoes found not a trace of soil or grass stains on them, though he supposedly walked several hundred yards through wooded Fort Marcy Park to where his body was found. [Years later, Starr’s investigation found plenty of soil and grass stains. Rodriguez charged that the shoes were tampered with to produce such "evidence."]

? Foster was found with little blood around his body – and despite claims that he fired the gun into his mouth, practically no blood was found on the front of his shirt.

? Foster was found with a 1913 revolver no one in his family could claim, with two serial numbers, made from the parts of three or more guns. None of Foster’s fingerprints were found on the gun. The bullet that supposedly killed Foster was never found, despite intensive searches.

? The first witness to find the body insisted that there had been no gun near the body. The memory in Foster's pager had been erased. Critical evidence began to vanish. Many witnesses were harassed. Others were simply ignored. There were even suggestions that the body had been moved, and a Secret Service memo surfaced which reported that Foster's body had been found in his car! The official reports were self-contradictory.

? All of the X-rays taken during the autopsy are missing. Complete crime scene photos don’t exist. The Park Police said all the photos were "accidentally" overexposed. A series of close-up Polaroids, which Favish is suing for, remain.

? A briefcase in the car of Vincent Foster was removed after U.S. Park Police arrived at his death scene. The briefcase, which may have carried important documents, was never listed on official evidence reports compiled by park police who conducted the first investigation into the White House deputy counsel's death.

Hillary Clinton was trying to gain leverage over her husband, possibly in relation to future divorce proceedings. It is possible Mrs. Clinton wanted to get to the bottom of persistent rumours about her husband's philandering before subjecting herself and her daughter to the media glare of a presidential campaign. At the time, Mrs Clinton and Vince Foster were partners at the Rose Law firm.

Did Hillary Clinton have an affair with Little Rock lawyer Vincent Foster? According to retired Arkansas State Trooper Larry Patterson, "There is no doubt in my mind that there was a long, ongoing sexual relationship between Hillary Clinton and Vince Foster."

Patterson, who guarded the Clintons for more than six years, made the new disclosures on the audiotape set "More than Sex: The Secrets of Bill and Hillary Clinton Revealed"

Patterson said that on one occasion, at a birthday party for Hillary Clinton, he saw Foster touch Hillary in private areas of the body twice. Patterson said his belief about Hillary and Vince was formed after years of observation during the frequent meetings between the two, when Bill was out of town, and the stories of other troopers.

Patterson gives eyewitness details of several occasions upon which he saw Vince and Hillary in compromising situations.

On the day of Vince Foster’s death, Patterson said he learned about the death before the Park Police even found Foster’s body and hours before the White House said they were informed. Patterson’s information, corroborated by another trooper, exposes a cover-up bigger than Watergate.

A case arose from an overall conspiracy to obstruct justice in connection with federal investigations into the death of deputy White House counsel Vincent W. Foster.

Patrick Knowlton was in Ft. Marcy Park the afternoon that Vincent Foster died. What Knowlton saw and what happened to him afterwards is one of the most disturbing stories of the whole Clinton saga. You can read the testimony here

Miguel Rodriguez was a prosecutor on the staff of Kenneth Starr. His attempts to uncover the truth in the Vincent Foster death case were repeatedly foiled, and he was the subject of planted stories undermining his credibility and implying that he was unstable. Rodriguez eventually resigned.

After learning of Fosters death, Jane Parks, the wife of Jerry Parks claims that her husband said, "I'm a dead man". Parks had collected detailed data on Clinton's sexual escapades, including pictures and dates. His wife claims federal agents subsequently removed his files and computer, and that Bill Clinton still owed him $81,000.

(Note. Two months later, Jerry Parks is found murdered gangland-style )


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; US: Arkansas; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: 2setsofkeyes; anniversary; arkancide; clintonlegacy; clintons; clintonscandals; coverup; craiglivingstone; cultureofcorruption; democratscandals; dragonlady; fortmarcypark; hillaryscandals; murder; mystery; nograssonshoes; phonysuicidenote; suicide; vincefoster
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To: investigateworld

I posted it trying to show ‘This is compounded by the fact the family seems to be satisfied with the results.’.

I really don’t think a wife crying by her husband’s grave is a Clinton hit piece.

I wouldn’t doubt the Rose Law firm remarks are...but my post was in reference to Lisa’s state of mind.


101 posted on 07/22/2007 10:47:28 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: GFritsch
I read somewhere--probably in FreeRep--that the reason they hired Janet Reno as Atty. General was because they knew that they needed a "dirty cop" in that position.


102 posted on 07/22/2007 10:48:42 AM PDT by bannie (The Good Guys cannot win when they're the only ones to play by the rules.)
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To: BenLurkin
Where are determined detectives like Columbo when they're needed?

The main point here is that many of us believe the Clintons had Foster killed. We also believe that all of those 50 plus bodies that are lying in their hasty wake enroute to the White House were murdered.

Putting these felons in the W-H for another term would be like letting Teddy drive young girls home (or wherever) drunk.

103 posted on 07/22/2007 10:52:29 AM PDT by GFritsch ('All men will hate you because of me, but he who stands firm to the end will be saved'." -)
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To: bannie
I believe Reno was selected because she was a blitering lesbian imbecile who would do as she was told.

Then there's Madeleine Albright and the surgeon general, Jocelyn Elders.

104 posted on 07/22/2007 10:56:49 AM PDT by GFritsch ('All men will hate you because of me, but he who stands firm to the end will be saved'." -)
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To: jaz.357

I stood at that spot with Patrick Knowlton one Saturday. He went through the details of the day and the events after that day. He told us about the interviewe by the FBI and the days in court.


105 posted on 07/22/2007 10:57:29 AM PDT by bmwcyle (Satan is working both sides of the street in World Socialism and World Courts.)
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To: ran20

Classic Clinton Joke

Last summer, the newly-elected President and Mrs. Clinton were vacationing in their home state of Arkansas. On a venture one day, they stopped at a service station to fill up their car with gas. It seemed that the owner of the station was once Hillary's high school sweetheart.

They exchanged hellos and then the White House couple went on their way.

As they were driving on to their final destination, Bill put his arm around Hillary and said, "Well, honey, if you had stayed with him, you would now be the wife of a service station owner."

She smirked and replied, "No! If I had stayed with him, HE would be the President of the United States!"

106 posted on 07/22/2007 11:02:18 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (The Democrat Party: radical Islam's last hope)
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To: GFritsch

We reached the infernal depths with the clintonistas.

I cannot believe anyone could possibly conceive of putting these criminals in the WH again.


107 posted on 07/22/2007 11:04:47 AM PDT by eleni121 (+ En Touto Nika! By this sign conquer! + Constantine the Great)
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To: GFritsch

Where’s Craig Livingstone today and what is he doing for a living?


He fell off the face of the earth? Seriously does anyone know...?


108 posted on 07/22/2007 11:07:43 AM PDT by eleni121 (+ En Touto Nika! By this sign conquer! + Constantine the Great)
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To: Calpernia
Agree.

The factual errors/misstatements reveal the author's interest in whitewashing the Clinton's.

I suspect we'll see more of these stories as Hillary moves towards the White House.

(And unless a tsunami such as 9-11 hits again, she has it in the bag :^( ....)

109 posted on 07/22/2007 11:12:29 AM PDT by investigateworld ( Those BP guys will do more prison time than many convicted Japanese war criminals ...thanks Bush!)
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To: eleni121

We reached the infernal depths with the clintonistas.

I cannot believe anyone could possibly conceive of putting these criminals in the WH again.”

Amen


110 posted on 07/22/2007 11:18:03 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: eleni121
These criminals are constitutionally prohibited from serving again: the amendment that term limits presidents also applies to unelected co-presidents.

I say this because (A) the Constitution will limit your terms if you ascend to the presidency through unelected means (death, impeachment, or resignation of the elected president) and (B) Hillary is saying that Bill will have powers as she did in his White House.

This is clearly a violation of the intent of this amendment.

Push the Constitutional Crisis question in the debates. “How can you legally serve AGAIN?” NO THIRD TERM.

Also the public is getting sick and tired of alternating oligarchies of the Clintons and the Bushes.

111 posted on 07/22/2007 11:20:14 AM PDT by weegee (If the Fairness Doctrine is imposed on USA who will CNN news get to read the conservative rebuttal)
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To: weegee

Also the public is getting sick and tired of alternating oligarchies of the Clintons and the Bushes.


Yeah but even moreso - the public is sure sick of the Dems controlling Congress!


112 posted on 07/22/2007 11:23:09 AM PDT by eleni121 (+ En Touto Nika! By this sign conquer! + Constantine the Great)
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To: investigateworld

If the Clinton’s are never held accountable....then this is all a farce. JMO.


113 posted on 07/22/2007 11:24:14 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: eleni121; GFritsch
Seriously does anyone know...?

I tried the Wikipedia thing, and there's scant mention of him then, let alone now.

114 posted on 07/22/2007 11:24:48 AM PDT by ErnBatavia (...forward this to your 10 very best friends....)
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To: Northern Yankee

I understand that Hilary is famous for going off on Blacks and Jews.

I am half expecting a tape to surface during this campaign where she is caught cussing Blacks and Jews.

John


115 posted on 07/22/2007 11:27:41 AM PDT by Diggity
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To: GFritsch
Uncle, do you remember the dyed-blonde hairs that were found on Vince's clothes?

From the Starr report:

"In debris collected from Mr. Foster's clothing, the FBI Laboratory reported finding two blond to light brown head hairs of Caucasian origin that were suitable for comparison purposes and dissimilar to those of Mr. Foster. the hairs did not appear to have been forcibly removed. Hair evidence can become important or relevant in a criminal investigation when there is a known suspect and a significant evidentiary question whether the suspect can be forensically linked to another person (a rape or murder victim, for example) or to a particular location. If the suspect is a stranger to the victim or the scene, the presence of the suspect's hair is relevant in assessing whether he or she had contact with the victim or scene. In this case, however, the only known individuals who reasonably might have been compelled to provide hair samples were persons already known to have had contact with Mr. Foster."

Also they found that he had dined very recently and had drank wine.

From the Starr Report:

"During the 1993 investigation, the laboratory of the Virginia Division of Forensic Science found that the blood, vitreous humor, and urine were negative for alcohols and ketones. The Laboratory did not detect "phencyclidine, morphine, cocaine, [or] benzoyleogonine"; "other alkaline extractable drugs"; or "acidic [or] neutral drugs."

116 posted on 07/22/2007 11:40:26 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Save Fredericksburg. Support CVBT.)
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To: GFritsch
For the life of me I have never understood how the Klintoons get away with so much. It will come to an end one day and they will have a lot of splaning to do to the creator.
There was an old movie with Andy Griffith as a preacher on the same wave length as Jim Baker. The people loved him and trusted him, until one day as he was doing his radio show and completed it, the microphone got left on by mistake and he stated what he thought of the dumb asses that believed in him.
This will eventually happen to Klintoon. Both Mr & Mrs.
117 posted on 07/22/2007 11:50:42 AM PDT by DeaconRed (We must make sure our Brave Military gets the support to Win This WAR. Not another Viet Nam.)
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To: ErnBatavia

Notice the Livingstone reference

BUBBA BAILOUT BID - YOU (that means the US taxpayers)MAY GET $3.5M TAB FOR BILL-HILL SCANDAL FEES

from the NY Post September 18, 2002
Brian Blumquist

SCANDAL’S PRICETAG

Clinton scandal players seeking money from Uncle Sam to cover their lawyers’ fees:

Bill and Hillary Clinton - $3,549,561

Monica Lewinsky - $1,165,390 - former intern at center of Sexgate

Vernon Jordan - - $302,719 - Clinton pal helped Lewinsky find lawyer and job

Susan McDougal - $345,412 - Whitewater partner

Bruce Lindsey - $245,023 - Clinton trouble fixer

Ken Bacon - $10,780 - Pentagon spokesman dished dirt on Linda Tripp

Cliff Bernath - $6,093 - Bacon’s deputy

Bennie Beard - $7,500 - involved in appraisal of investigated land deal

Gloria Cabe - $28,135 - Clinton campaign manager in 1990

Glenda Cooper - $6,300 - involved in Branscum trial, an offshoot of Whitewater

Harry Denton - $1,451 - Arkansas banker and Whitewater bit player

Kevin Fornshill - $11,560 - cop who discovered Vince Foster’s body

Bill Henley - $7,500 - Susan McDougal’s brother

Robert Hill - $5,000 - banker accused of illegally funneling money to Clinton

Ellen Kulka - $862 - general counsel in Resolution Trust Corp. probe of Whitewater

Dan Lasater - $863,095 - never charged in drug-trafficking investigation

Craig Livingstone - $235,299 - White House security man ordered up FBI files on GOPers

Anthony Marceca - $189,968 - also investigated in FBI-files probe

Matthew Moore - $84,790 - junior White House staffer worked for Clinton travel chief William Watkins

Bayani Nelvis - $18,850 - White House usher pressed to talk about Clinton-Lewinsky

Michael Schaufele - $242,438 - Accountant for Clinton friend Webster Hubbell

Nicholas Stonnington - $47,419 - Merrill Lynch consultant hired Hubbell

Ginny Terzano - $528 - Former press aide to Bill Clinton and Al Gore

Patsy Thomasson - $31,273 - Watkins’ deputy at time of Travel Office firings

William Watkins - $129,583 - Travel chief said Hillary pressured him to fire workers

William Watt - $72,229 - one-time target in Whitewater

Betsey Wright - $166,581 - custodian of records in Clinton’s 1990 campaign

TOTAL: $7,775,339


118 posted on 07/22/2007 11:50:50 AM PDT by eleni121 (+ En Touto Nika! By this sign conquer! + Constantine the Great)
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To: eleni121

The public didn’t vote to empower the Democrats in Congress, they voted to unempower the Republicans in Congress. The DNC proclaimed it a mandate and has p!ssed off the public holding over 600 partisan witchhunt “investigations”.

It isn’t what the public wanted.

And you have to wonder about public support for raising the minimum wage. We are told that we need to permit illegal immigrants to enter the country because we need a source for low-income workers. Workers who are paid below the minimum wage.


119 posted on 07/22/2007 11:55:54 AM PDT by weegee (If the Fairness Doctrine is imposed on USA who will CNN news get to read the conservative rebuttal)
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To: GFritsch

Craig Livingstone did exist...and Al Gore knows something too. (hope this isn’t too long but it’s a blast from the past and worth it)


MAY 22, 1994, SUNDAY, FIVE STAR EDITION

SECTION: LIFESTYLE, Pg. H1

LENGTH: 1688 words

HEADLINE: FROM BEAVER COUNTY TO WHITE HOUSE: HE KEEPS OFFICIAL ACTIVITIES ON EVEN KEEL

BYLINE: JANE CRAWFORD, POST-GAZETTE STAFF WRITER

DATELINE: WASHINGTON, D.C.

BODY:
They call him ‘’The Mayor of the White House.’’

Craig Livingstone strolls from one corner of America’s most famous residence to another, greeted with waves and ‘’hi’s’’ from staffers and security people. Every 10 minutes or so he stops — sometimes in mid-sentence — to respond to his beeper, usually beckoning him to put out one sort of fire or another as he carries out his duties as Director of Personnel Security at the White House.

The buzz word in his conversations is ‘’situation’’ — as in ‘’yesterday’s situation,’’ ‘’today’s situation’’ and ‘’the other situation.’’

Following him around the White House is a lesson in navigation in exclusive waters. Keep your eyes and ears open, know when to keep your mouth closed, recognize the players, get the picture quickly, be nice and smile are the lessons learned early on.

Livingstone, a former Indiana University of Pennsylvania student and 1977 graduate of Beaver High School, is a member of the White House’s ‘’second tier of staff’’ as he puts it. Among his duties are doing background investigations on staffers and checking out those requesting press credentials, being the liaison with the Secret Service and the FBI on personnel security and helping stage events attended by President Clinton, such as the recent signing of the Middle East Peace Accord.

‘’Basically my job is to stay out of the way and be invisible. If I’m around, something’s wrong.’’ At only 35, he’s a political veteran with major responsibilities and access to the power brokers in the White House. It’s not unusual for him to confer with senior policy adviser George Stephanopoulos (’’he’s brilliant,’’ Livingstone says), chief of staff Mack McLarty and other big guns from the president’s inner circle. He sees the president almost daily and — along with other staffers — sits in on an occasional meeting with him.

Livingstone, who lives in suburban Maryland, leaves this week for London where he will do preliminary work in coordinating the June presidential visit to mark the 50th anniversary of D-Day. He oversaw the burial of Virginia Kelley, the president’s mother, and was asked to coordinate the president’s role at Richard Nixon’s funeral, which he was unable to do because of a personal commitment elsewhere.

Stephanopoulos, who has worked with Livingstone since Clinton’s presidential campaign, gives him high marks. ‘’He does a terrific job. All I know is that anything that has anything to do with security or logistics — Craig’s going to take care of it. You don’t have to tell him how to do it, when to do it. Just that it needs to be done, and he does it. And he knows how to cut through the bureaucracy and get things done.’’

There are sometimes problems attached to getting things done. Livingstone readily admits ‘’we had been remiss in the quickness of getting people cleared’’ for some jobs, especially early on. He explains that the hiring and investigation process hit a lot of snags due to staff transition and unexpected kinks in the system.

This past March Livingstone’s venue was Pittsburgh as a member of the team to plan the visit of Clinton and British Prime Minister John Major. Arriving days in advance he ensconced himself at the Tin Angel restaurant on Mount Washington where the leaders were to dine. Then the work began. Checking out exits and people, directing the installation of 17 phone lines, even opening stuck doors and later, checking to see that the bill for dinner had been paid (it had) were among his tasks.

‘’He and 15 people on the advance team showed up with business cards and credentials. Craig was real businesslike and pleasant but I wouldn’t want to be on his bad side,’’ said Maria Kyros, the restaurant’s co-owner.

Kyros got a taste of Livingstone’s access to the president when ‘’one night at 11 o’clock his private phone rang. Only the president’s office calls him on that phone and when it rang he said, ‘that’s the big guy’ and left the room to take the call.’’ It was the president’s operator asking a question for Clinton.

In April, Livingstone was back in the area (his grandfather still lives in Ellwood City though his parents have moved to Maryland) to speak at an education conference at IUP. Not one to forget where he came from, he recently set up a White House internship program for an IUP student.

‘’He had a great deal of poise and was well-versed in terms of what’s going on at the White House and administration policy,’’ said Robert McGowan, acting associate dean, College of Fine Arts, at the college. He remembers Livingstone well and has kept in touch with him off and on over the years.

Teachers tend to recall the bright students but McGowan said Livingstone was ‘’persistent, not intimidated by authority,’’ as well as smart. ‘’He had some sense of vision for himself and a passion for politics. So I wasn’t surprised when he called me about six months ago about the intern program,’’ McGowan said.

That passion has been simmering for years. ‘’When I was 15 I said I wanted to work in the White House. People laughed but I developed strong political skills like getting people to work together who don’t like each other but are exceptionally good at what they do.’’

As a student leader (national vice president of the U.S. Student Association) he went to Poland during the initial push for Solidarity and was invited to address students there and meet Lech Walesa.

Livingstone now has an office in the Old Executive Office Building across from the White House. But in his student days he was often on the other side of the fence — literally — carrying a picket sign. He did his share of demonstrating at the White House ‘’many times’’ against President Reagan’s financial aid policies, education issues and in support of organized labor.

His professional career in Democratic Party politics began when he worked on the personal staff of Geraldine Ferraro (’’I took care of the bags’’) during her vice presidential campaign and on Gary Hart’s staff during his presidential bids in 1984 and 1988. In addition to doing whatever was needed on campaign stops Livingstone said, ‘’I always had a clean shirt or blouse for them. Every politician likes to get into a clean shirt. Those are the things they remember.’’

In between campaigns he held jobs as diverse as doing public relations for a casino in Atlantic City and the film ‘’The Last Temptation of Christ,’’ serving as assistant to Washington City Council member Charlene Jarvis and training Angolan guerrilla soliders in democratic politics in advance of an election there. He was also director of operations for the Democratic Convention in Atlanta in 1988.

Impressing the right people in the right way got Livingstone the job as director of security for Clinton’s inaugural celebration. Al Gore had ‘’known about me through the grapevine.’’ Gore asked Livingstone to put together his announcement to run for the presidency in 1988. He was on Gore’s advance team in 1992. And on solid ground with Clinton and Gore high-level staffers.

Livingstone’s beeper was working overtime while on the job with former Arkansan/current Hollywood producer Harry Thomason during the inaugural festivities, and got his current job one week after the swearing in.

‘’He’s very level-headed ... patient and professional. You need those attributes in a job like his. He’s someone who excels when it’s a crisis situation,’’ said deputy press secretary Ginny Terzano.

Although there is not a crisis every day, one suspects Livingstone would like there to be one. In the meantime, he’s popping in and out of the White House senior staff dining room (’’the mess’’ as regulars call it), walking by the Oval Office, criss-crossing the Rose Garden and arranging special White House tours and other hard-to-get tickets for appreciative friends and acquaintances.

McGowan and his parents were the recipients of this generosity on a recent trip to Washington. They sat in the presidential box at the John F. Kennedy Memorial Center for Performing Arts, compliments of Livingstone. ‘’My parents actually sat in president and Mrs. Clinton’s seats,’’ McGowan said. To say they were all thrilled is putting it mildly.

Also in the D.C. area, is Livingstone’s brother, Steven, an engineer, a political appointee in the Department of Energy working on hazardous environment issues. He, like his parents, is a Republican.

Livingstone tries to squeeze in time for bicycling and going to movies — his passion. And while he’s winning friends and influencing people in the nation’s capital, he’s gearing up for another campaign — to find someone in the girlfriend/ wife/mate/date category.

‘’I’m ready, it’s my next project after I leave this job,’’ he said. Working 12 and 15 hours a day, six and seven days a week isn’t the best arrangement for building a social life. ‘’I meet women just like me. They put themselves and their careers first, they’re goal-oriented. Most of us are here because we believe in the president’s agenda.’’

That agenda is presently focused on dealing with the latest round of sexual misconduct charges not to mention Whitewater and cattle futures trading. Do these charges discourage Livingstone?

‘’I am a presidential staffer and I understand that role. I believe in the fundamental vison he has for America and there will always be distractions associated with any president. I see him daily and while I’m concerned about (the charges), I believe in the president 100 percent.’’

Livingstone, having observed the president up close for more than two years, says Clinton ‘’is very focused, caring and impassioned. He has an amazing ability to remember people’s names. You don’t dare meet with him without being prepared because very often he’ll know more about the subject than you.’’

Livingstone knows he’s existing in a unique environment that won’t last forever. After this stint in Washington, he believes his next direction will be due west — as a producer in Hollywood. If that happens, he’ll no doubt arrive with enough experience to make a new niche for himself — beeper required.


120 posted on 07/22/2007 11:58:26 AM PDT by eleni121 (+ En Touto Nika! By this sign conquer! + Constantine the Great)
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To: Voter#537
I have a theory about the Clintons; how they got together and how they moved from trailer trash status to multi-millionaires.

They were helped by communism.

I believe that Hillary (everything about her background is a bald-faced lie) and Bill are star-crossed lovers. Red Star, that is.

They were selected by the USSR to get a start in American politics, and where else but good ole Arkansas where Billy was born to a woman who had no idea who his father was.

Hillary is touted as being from an upper-middle class family, but they were a household of losers.

Where the money came from to put these two marxists through the 'best' schools is a mystery. The leftist Senator Fulbright helped Bill along, but it was at the bidding of his handlers.

Bill was positioned to become attorney general of Arkansas at a salary of about $10M/year then the voters moved him into the governor's mansion where the $16M salary would't buy much, but everything else was furnished including a nanny to tend to little Chelsea.

When the USSR started to fall apart, the Communist Chinese picked up the contract and proceeded to move into Little Rock by buying the Worthen Bank in order to be close to their two proteges.

These two are communist agents, let there be no doubt about that.

121 posted on 07/22/2007 12:03:45 PM PDT by GFritsch ('All men will hate you because of me, but he who stands firm to the end will be saved'." -)
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To: GFritsch

Hillary failed the bar exam in DC as well -—kept it hidden for 30 years
from The Australian June 7, 2007 Thursday

HEADLINE: Hillary blamed for some of Bill’s worst errors

“Some members of the White House staff say she uses her religiosity as a cover for her faults. Some see it as a mask in her relationship with her husband “She elevates her staying with (Clinton) to a moral level of biblical proportion”

Many were convinced that longtime friend and defence counsel Vince Foster, who later committed suicide, worshipped Hillary from the start. Those who knew them best doubted that they had had an affair. One friend wasn’t sure:

“He loved Hillary. I hoped they had an affair. I think they both deserved it. They both had complicated spouses, complicated marriages”

Hillary, said an aide, “hates the fact that Bill Clinton cheats on her, and that he doesn’t need her as much as she wants. And he’s weak. She’s a very judgmental Methodist from the Midwest. As much as they talk about loving the sinner, they actually also despise a part of the sinner. They hate the weakness. They hate the part of the person who can’t toe the puritan line.”

Hillary knew marrying Bill would mean living in Arkansas and forgoing a prestigious job in Washington or New York. At Bill’s urging, she sat the Arkansas bar exam which she passed. She also sat the DC bar exam, but she failed - a fact she kept hidden for 30 years and took as a sign to marry Bill “When I learnt that I passed in Arkansas but failed in DC, I thought maybe my test scores were telling me something”


122 posted on 07/22/2007 12:07:25 PM PDT by eleni121 (+ En Touto Nika! By this sign conquer! + Constantine the Great)
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To: eleni121
You don’t have to tell him how to do it, when to do it. Just that it needs to be done, and he does it.

’’I took care of the bags’’

.... he held jobs as diverse as doing public relations for a casino in Atlantic City and the film ‘’The Last Temptation of Christ,’’...

Where to begin?

What a tissue of lies this puff-piece is.

He did everything he was asked to do. He took care of the bags alright. His Atlantic City job was as a bouncer and it's not surprising that he did the PR for the sacreligious Last Temptation mess.

Hillary didn't know him. Bill had no idea who hired him.

123 posted on 07/22/2007 12:14:18 PM PDT by GFritsch ('All men will hate you because of me, but he who stands firm to the end will be saved'." -)
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To: Gorzaloon

Sean Hannity is supposed to air a segment tonight (Sunday) at 9:00 PM Eastern on the VF case.


124 posted on 07/22/2007 12:16:20 PM PDT by tang-soo (Prophecy of the Seventy Weeks - Read Daniel Chapter 9)
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To: Iwo Jima

Please cite evidence to support what the son said. On this thread his wife said it was his father’s hand gun.


125 posted on 07/22/2007 12:19:16 PM PDT by ItisaReligionofPeace
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To: GFritsch
Mystery?

What mystery?

V.F. was killed under the direct orders of either a) the scum that was president, or b) the "scum-ette" that is about to be president. It does not matter at all by whom.

However, screaming this to all those on this website, or proving it beyond a shadow of a doubt so that even the main stream media would have no choice but to believe will have little to no effect in the real world.

And the "scum-ette" (and additionally, either an accessory to the fact or a murderess) will indeed be the next president.

Wonder what that tells us about this country?

126 posted on 07/22/2007 12:19:35 PM PDT by Logic n' Reason (Don't piss down my back and tell me it's rainin')
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To: eleni121

http://lesbianlife.about.com/od/otherfamouslesbians/a/HillaryClinton.htm


127 posted on 07/22/2007 12:19:54 PM PDT by GFritsch ('All men will hate you because of me, but he who stands firm to the end will be saved'." -)
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To: Iwo Jima

Quite the opposite. It was very apparent that he was suffering from depresion. One obvious sign of this was that he called his physician a few days earlier in order to get treatment for depression.


128 posted on 07/22/2007 12:20:25 PM PDT by ItisaReligionofPeace
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To: GFritsch

There is no mystery,for one reason or another he pissed hillary off.


129 posted on 07/22/2007 12:21:49 PM PDT by sport
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To: Thumper1960
One cannot dismiss, out of hand, the possibility that Hildebeast is the leading candidate for AntiChrist.

I understand your sentiment, but yes one can ...

26) ... The people of the ruler who will come will destroy the city and the sanctuary. The end will come like a flood: War will continue until the end, and desolations have been decreed.

27) He will confirm a covenant with many for one 'seven.' In the middle of the 'seven' he will put an end to sacrifice and offering. And on a wing of the temple he will set up an abomination that causes desolation, until the end that is decreed is poured out on him.

Doesn't mean she's not one of his minions.
130 posted on 07/22/2007 12:22:00 PM PDT by tang-soo (Prophecy of the Seventy Weeks - Read Daniel Chapter 9)
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To: GFritsch

Reference your last paragraph. Your assessment is 100% correct.

98% of all Americans are either too stupid or too complacent to know or care about what is happening.


131 posted on 07/22/2007 12:25:00 PM PDT by sport
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To: GFritsch

The biggest mystery is, how many millions of dollars did the scumbag Clintons pay to Foster’s wife to keep her mouth shut?


132 posted on 07/22/2007 12:29:55 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: ScubieNuc

Great post!

I would add that the Ford Building archives on the Clinton scandals are available to be viewed by all Congressmen. Any Congressman could go public with whatever he saw. So far, from Republicans in Congress: (crickets)


133 posted on 07/22/2007 12:33:46 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: T'wit
...cart off boxes off them (which have never been seen since). This was the plainest display of obstruction of justice, but nobody dared call her on it.

This obstruction should disqualify her from government office.

Watch out now folks. There are people that work for Obama and maybe even Edwards that are willing to attack other liberals for their candidate. Someone might release some really signicant stuff soon.

134 posted on 07/22/2007 12:48:27 PM PDT by alrea
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To: GFritsch
Putting these felons in the W-H for another term would be like letting Teddy drive young girls home

Teddy probably now has a driver so he can get the young girls home safely

135 posted on 07/22/2007 12:51:39 PM PDT by alrea
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To: GFritsch

Just another nail in her coffin...


136 posted on 07/22/2007 12:55:44 PM PDT by eleni121 (+ En Touto Nika! By this sign conquer! + Constantine the Great)
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To: GFritsch

Hillary didn’t know him. Bill had no idea who hired him.


Oh yeah...did you notice that punk Stufinenvelopeslos’ comment?

This guy Livingston was specifically hired to do the BJ’s bidding. Small time and now where is he?


137 posted on 07/22/2007 12:59:07 PM PDT by eleni121 (+ En Touto Nika! By this sign conquer! + Constantine the Great)
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To: GFritsch

Didn’t his son also die a few years later? What was that about? Or am I thinking of a different Clinton scandal?


138 posted on 07/22/2007 12:59:09 PM PDT by getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL (****************************Stop Continental Drift**)
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To: sport
98% of all Americans are either too stupid or too complacent to know or care about what is happening.

The 98% who cannot get away from their televisions, anyway. This has been a major victory for propaganda.

Want an enemy? Start with the Media.

That's who dictates "truth" to their beery little heads.

Then, remove any ability for critical thinking courtesy of the Teachers' Unions, who, coincidentally vote...How?

139 posted on 07/22/2007 1:07:50 PM PDT by Gorzaloon (Food imported from China = Cesspool + Flavr-Straw™)
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There is absolutely no reason to believe that this wasn’t a hit and the body was placed at Ft Marcy Park, little to no blood and no skull or brain tissue on the ground?? with a penetrating skull injury... Hillary cannot be allowed to regain power, if she does she will turn the U.S. into another Mexico ...


140 posted on 07/22/2007 1:15:11 PM PDT by Neidermeyer
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To: Gorzaloon

Your assessment is 100% correct.


141 posted on 07/22/2007 1:57:43 PM PDT by sport
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To: Lancey Howard

Thanks.

I remembered some of the details wrong (Foster lieing uphill not down) but overall it was tragedy all around.


142 posted on 07/22/2007 1:57:53 PM PDT by ScubieNuc
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To: Shooter 2.5
This is compounded by the fact the family seems to be satisfied with the results.

That too makes one scratch their head. If my dad or wife or brother or brother-in-law or father-in-law or whoever wound up dead like Foster, I wouldn't rest until I got some satisfactory answers.

The only thing I can figure is they had some dirty laundry that they didn't want aired, so probably a pay-off and a guarentee some skeletons stay buried, and they sign off on the 'approved' investigation.

But now we'll probably never know the whole truth as long as no one in power pursues the truth.

Damn! Rehashing this one Clinton scandal is getting me all depressed and angry. I gotta just keep repeating...They may fool most of the people and escape punishment here, but they don't fool God and they won't escape his punishment.

There. Now I feel beter.
143 posted on 07/22/2007 2:18:13 PM PDT by ScubieNuc
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To: GFritsch
You done took a u-turn into tin foil hat territory.
144 posted on 07/22/2007 2:36:41 PM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (NRA - Hunter '08)
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To: ScubieNuc

It’s perfectly ok to believe Vince Foster killed himself at Fort Macy Park. All you have to do is remember he killed himself because he was tied into all the illegal and immoral acts of the clintons.

Works for me.


145 posted on 07/22/2007 2:39:27 PM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (NRA - Hunter '08)
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To: Shooter 2.5

Whether Vince killed himself or was silenced by thugs doesn’t matter that much anymore.

What matters is that people and agencies INTENTIONALLY over looked, covered up, or ignored the evidence of a tragedy at least, a murder at most. Just hiding the truth is a crime. The reasons for hiding the truth is probably the greater crime.

The fact that the trails lead to the Clintons is only part of what is maddening. The fact that, for them to get away with their shinanigans, many other people of supposed integrity allow them to do it through their silence, is probably more maddening. It only gets worse, when you realize that many “so called” conservatives are part of that wall of silence which hides the truth and protects the Clintons.

But I’ll sleep fine, because I know, beyond any shadow of a doubt, that God will not let any of them escape their punishment.

Sincerely


146 posted on 07/22/2007 3:08:27 PM PDT by ScubieNuc
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To: GFritsch
“Where’s Craig Livingstone today and what is he doing for a living?”

The last thing I heard, he was a limosioune driver in D.C. But that was years ago.

147 posted on 07/22/2007 3:11:46 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Open borders and outsourcing are opposite sides of the same coin)
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To: tang-soo
Yeah, she’s a minion. But then, she may try to hijack the AntiChrist like she tried to highjack the Bubba presidency.
148 posted on 07/22/2007 3:25:42 PM PDT by Thumper1960 (Unleash the Dogs of War as a Minority, or perish as a party.)
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To: ScubieNuc

“The fact that the Republicans had control of the WH and Congress and has apparently decided that all of Clinton’s scandals are not worth looking into anymore, shows a real bad tolerance level for the growth of evil.”

No, what it shows is that both parties are corrupt and in cahoots.


149 posted on 07/22/2007 3:40:51 PM PDT by .44 Special (Ta Muid Buarch)
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To: GFritsch

A good book on this subject:

The STRANGE DEATH OF VINCENT FOSTER
by Christopher Ruddy

another must read:

Unlimited Access: An FBI Agent Inside the Clinton White House
by Gary Aldrich


150 posted on 07/22/2007 4:07:22 PM PDT by RDTF (Republicans believe every day is July 4th, but Democrats believe every day is April 15th. - Reagan)
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