Posted on 07/22/2007 2:26:50 PM PDT by BGHater
Von Stauffenberg and the anti-Nazi generals didn’t want to overthrow Hitler to save Jews. They wanted to win the war and Hitler was losing it.
Goering has always been something of an enigma to me. Why would he, having been so class-concious al his life, and a German military oficer, subordinate himself to a rather grubby *corporal* from Austria? He was Schickelgruber's superior in so many ways, but never challenged him. I suppose it came down to Adolph's legendary "charisma", which is something I've never been able to detect in either his mediocre writings, nor in such audio of his speeches that I've listened to...
the infowarrior
Correct. I have little sympathy for the “good German” line.
I don't see them as wanting to win the war, but to save their own necks by suing for peace. Of course by that point it was moot, since the Allies agreed on Unconditional Surrender.
“Let it be known that many Christians were also put to death by the Nazis.”
Indeed. There was a huge effort in Germany to de-Judaize Christianity (even striping the Bible of Jews; good luck), as, intellectually, it is nigh impossible to be a good, informed, Christian and be anti-semetic (notable exceptions abound; Luther, for example, had his moments).
This quote stuck out, in particular:
“What do I care about Good Friday?” asked General-major Wilhelm Ullersperger, who had been captured during the Ardennes offensive in the last days of 1944. “Because a filthy Jew was hanged umpteen years ago?””
“I’d love to know why they didn’t realease this stuff after the war.”
Because we had to face Stalin, so it was easier to pretend the Germans were OK.
“it is nigh impossible to be a good, informed, Christian and be anti-semetic”
Yes, this is an astute observation.
The two views are, ultimately, antithetical.
Forgive me, but any definition of a "good, informed Chirstian" that excludes Luther, Aquinas, a great many Roman Catholic Popes, several hundred saints, etc. appears somewhat lacking. Antisemitism was a common feature in most Christian schools from the beginning of Christianity through the 19th century. I appreciate that that has largely changed (at least in the United States and some other Western countries), and that, of course, historically some prominent Christians were opposed to Antisemitism, but the combination of the two has historically been common.
The plain text speaks for itself: theologically, Christians deem themselves Jews by adoption (and thus heirs to the promise given by God to Abraham); to hate Jews is to hate Christians.
I would say the change is more about wide-spread, accurate, translations of the Bible than anything else.
Not so much as it was that the Germans were no longer a threat.
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