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The Genocide Generals: secret recordings explode the myth they knew nothing about the Holocaust
Daily Mail ^ | 21 July 2007 | ANDREW ROBERTS

Posted on 07/22/2007 2:26:50 PM PDT by BGHater

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To: BGHater

Of course, you all know what this means: The genocide, which the allies denied knowing about til after the war, was well known to the allies, and so, this will become just another way to bash the good guys, the ones who defeated these monsters.


21 posted on 07/22/2007 2:59:20 PM PDT by Defiant (Hunter if we can; Thompson if we can't; Romney if we must, Rudy if we wanna lose.)
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To: goldstategop

I was curious about the term myself....I found this:

Origin and use of the terms

Before the rise of the NSDAP, the term Wehrmacht was used in a generic sense to describe armed forces of any nation, being utilized as the “home defense” version of the more general Streitmacht. For example, the term Britische Wehrmacht would identify the British armed forces. Article 47 of the Weimar Constitution of 1919 declared “Der Reichspräsident hat den Oberbefehl über die gesamte Wehrmacht des Reiches” (meaning: “The Reichspräsident holds supreme command of all armed forces of the Reich”). To make a distinction, the term Reichswehr was commonly used to identify the German armed forces.

In 1935, the Reichswehr was renamed Wehrmacht. After World War II and under the Allied occupation of Germany, the Wehrmacht was abolished. When West Germany remilitarized in 1955, its newly-created armed forces became known as the Bundeswehr (”Federal Defence Force”). East Germany’s armed forces, formally established in 1956, were known as the National People’s Army (Nationale Volksarmee). When East Germany (the German Democratic Republic) was incorporated into “West Germany” (the Federal Republic of Germany) in 1990, much of the Volksarmee property and some of the staff were also incorporated into the Bundeswehr.

Hence the term Wehrmacht customarily refers to Germany’s armed forces during the Nazi Germany era and World War II, both in German and English. Note: It is incorrect to equate Wehrmacht with only the army (Wehrmacht Heer). Wehrmacht vehicles used by Heer, Luftwaffe or Kriegsmarine had license plates with WH, WL or WM.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wehrmacht#Origin_and_use_of_the_terms


22 posted on 07/22/2007 2:59:49 PM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: rfp1234
If the U.S. had done that, the ACLU would be screaming bloody murder,
and dragging the intelligence officials before Congressional committees.


I think that actually...we did.
I can't track down the show, but IIRC, in a documentary it was mentioned
that for some German POWs, they'd get an interview, then be allowed
time in a room with one of their fellow POWs.

Apparently, the POWs would often "ease up" after their "interrogation"
and talk fairly freely with their comrades...all being recorded without
their knowledge.
And, like in civilian police investigations...sometimes one of
the comrades was a German that had been "turned" and was assisting
in getting a particular POW to spill beans.

Sorry I can't remember the show; I think it was on The History Channel.

OH, and an interesting sidebar about the ACLU is that to some degree
they hadn't gone totally stark raving nuts while the war was on.
IIRC, only the Northern California chapter of the ACLU lifted a finger
to represent some of the Japanese-American detainees...
which elicited a threat from ACLU headquarters to eject that
chapter from the ACLU.
23 posted on 07/22/2007 3:02:25 PM PDT by VOA
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To: goldstategop
And Hitler's mind was always on the coming conflict with the Soviet Union. The Germans hoped bombing Britain would break its will to resist their domination of the Continent but it didn't have the desired effect.

The turning point in the Battle of Britain, came after Berlin was airbombed for the first time.

Hitler was so angered by the bombing, that he switched from tactical bombing Britain to terror bombing. This had two negative effects for the Nazis. First, it strengthened British resolve, and second, stopping the bombing of military installations allowed the British military to regroup.

That is where the Battle of Britain was lost for the Germans.

24 posted on 07/22/2007 3:04:18 PM PDT by dfwgator (The University of Florida - Still Championship U)
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To: BGHater

Wonder what abortionists say to one another when they meet at a party - or an orgy, or whatever abortionists go to.


25 posted on 07/22/2007 3:07:11 PM PDT by madprof98 ("moritur et ridet" - salvianus)
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To: goldstategop

No they do not have a problem even with allies of ours, who took bullets for many an SF soldier, in RVN either. The Montagnard people have paid dearly for being loyal to us. Go to “Save The Montagnard People” Website.


26 posted on 07/22/2007 3:08:03 PM PDT by Lumper20
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To: BGHater

This article is all part of a vast Jewish conspiracy.

Don’t you know the Jews control everything?


27 posted on 07/22/2007 3:12:48 PM PDT by STE=Q ("Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggie' until you can find a rock." (Will Rogers))
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To: STE=Q

ping


28 posted on 07/22/2007 3:13:50 PM PDT by TYVets (God so loved the world he didn't send a committee)
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To: BGHater

Absolutely horrific. Shame we didnt have nukes a few years earlier.


29 posted on 07/22/2007 3:15:36 PM PDT by Paradox (They're simply playing all of us, all of them.)
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To: BGHater

OK, I’m being sarcastic, but that’s what the Holocaust deniers will probably say.


30 posted on 07/22/2007 3:17:23 PM PDT by STE=Q ("Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggie' until you can find a rock." (Will Rogers))
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To: dfwgator; goldstategop

>>Hitler was so angered by the bombing, that he switched from tactical bombing Britain to terror bombing.

More specifically, he switched from bombing the RAF’s fighter airfields and radar installations, to terror bombing of population centers.


31 posted on 07/22/2007 3:19:27 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: TYVets

Do we expect to see this in the NYT, WaPo, or New Yorker?
They will think about it and think how they can spin it against the current administration.
Big things don’t happen by accident and without the big people knowing. Whether it is Enron, immigration or genocide.


32 posted on 07/22/2007 3:19:42 PM PDT by Oldexpat
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To: BGHater
"What do I care about Good Friday?" asked General-major Wilhelm Ullersperger, who had been captured during the Ardennes offensive in the last days of 1944. "Because a filthy Jew was hanged umpteen years ago?"

The next time someone tells you that the Nazis were Christians, remember what Ullersperger said.

33 posted on 07/22/2007 3:27:11 PM PDT by Logophile
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To: BGHater
Look at those krauts.

Every one of them guilty as sin itself, and every one of them following der feuhrer's orders, just like the good kraut that he is.

34 posted on 07/22/2007 3:28:26 PM PDT by OKSooner ("I say, America, stay out da Bushes! Stay out da Bushes! Stay out da Bushes! Stay out da Bushes!")
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To: BGHater

I have some questions and I think they’re good ones:

Why was this information buried all these years?

Who would gain and — more importantly — who would lose if these recordings were disclosed sooner?


35 posted on 07/22/2007 3:30:48 PM PDT by STE=Q ("Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggie' until you can find a rock." (Will Rogers))
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To: dfwgator

Goering made a sppech before Berlin was bombed that if any bombs fell on Berlin, you could call him “Mayer” (IIRC), i.e., a Jewish name. After Germany began being bombed, many people jokingly referred to Goering as “Mayer” — very quietly, of course.

Just a few weeks ago I spoke to a lady who grew up in wartime Berlin — the stories she told were amazing! She said that they had a system of internal spying that was so effective that you dared not discuss things openly with family members. Several people were arrested in her apartment building.

The story that was put out among the public about the disappeared Jews was that they were being re-educated or something. Nobody asked questions out of fear.


36 posted on 07/22/2007 3:32:07 PM PDT by GadareneDemoniac
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To: GadareneDemoniac
The story that was put out among the public about the disappeared Jews was that they were being re-educated or something. Nobody asked questions out of fear.

Absolute nonsense -- that's the old disinformation that the German people didn't know what was going on, didn't really support the Nazis, and only went along with Hitler's policies because of fear. Nothing could be further from the truth.

If any German didn't know that the Jews of Europe were being killed, it was because they didn't want to know. The overwhelming majority knew what was happening, and they supported it. They may not have known about gassings vs shootings, or the location or size of Auschwitz, Treblinka, etc., but they knew of and supported the end result -- the extermination of European Jewry.

37 posted on 07/22/2007 3:39:47 PM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: Logophile; BGHater

Let it be known that many Christians were also put to death by the Nazis.

Thousands of Catholic priests and Christian pastors were forced into concentration camps at Dachau.

And, of course, there was the “ racial purification program “ for the Gypsy’s, the mentally retarded, etc.


38 posted on 07/22/2007 3:54:02 PM PDT by STE=Q ("Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggie' until you can find a rock." (Will Rogers))
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To: Alter Kaker

Obviously, that is correct. My point was that was what the propaganda was. The lady admitted that her parents had to have known what was really going on. I see a distinct difference between “support” and keeping your head down, however.

Ask yourself: if you were an unarmed parent of small children in an evil dictatorship, how would you respond? We all hope that we would show courage and resist, but would we rerally, knowing that our actions would lead to the deaths of our families?

This has implications for us. It’s not impossible that one day we in the U.S. might be faced with something similar. What then?


39 posted on 07/22/2007 4:02:22 PM PDT by GadareneDemoniac
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To: Mobile Vulgus

But this also means that the British and by extension, the American’s knew too.


40 posted on 07/22/2007 4:06:58 PM PDT by dalight
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