Posted on 07/27/2007 5:31:45 AM PDT by monomaniac
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Tonight Show's Jay Leno Jokes of Priests as Pedophiles Six Times in Five Weeks
By John-Henry Westen
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Okay, that’s a fair compromise for pre-marriage counseling.
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"La Cosa Nostra," as Frank Keating called the RCC and their abusive, muscled cover-up.
The fact is that there IS an issue with homosexual priests in the Catholic church. The Catholic church simply moved them to other parishes when there were molestation issues with priests and kids.
Perhaps the HUGE settlements recently by the Catholic church to molestation victims by priests is what prompted these jokes.
It's irrelevant his religious leanings, it's the truth that he is offended by.116
The truth of what?
Someones opinion of celebate priests?This is the post he was talking about.
I was raised a Catholic but have had nothing to do with the church since I was old enough to make up my own mind. A celibate priesthood is lunacy and does not work. One of the more ridiculous things I can think of is receiving pre-marriage counseling from the church if the one giving the advice is a celibate.And the church leaders decided long ago that in the case of pedophile priests, the survival of the church was more important than the well being of flock. That is why they downplayed the incidents in the past and will still do so when they can. I cheer everytime I hear that they have to pay millions.Opinion, not truth.
You're right. Truth is a mushy hydra-headed word. It's meaning changes from context to context.
I prefer honesty. There's no gray area with honesty. Something is either honest or it's not.
As it pertains to the United States and its citizens, come the following questions:
Out of the total number of known pedophiles, what percentage of them are not charged and put on trial?
Out of the total number of known pedophiles that are priests, what percentage of them are not charged or put on trial?
What's the average number of years a pedophile is sentenced to imprisonment?
What's the average number of years a pedophile that's a priest is sentenced to imprisonment?
Have pedophile priests names and pertinent information been entered into sex offender lists so that local communities can know their whereabouts?
Plus, there's many questions regarding the people that knew who the priests are that are pedophiles and those that harbored them rather than tell the police that crimes had been committed against children.
Priests excluded, I query whether, similar to the Church example, there has been an increase in pedophiles being caught whom try to settle out of court. If successful, are they put on the sex offender lists?
It's not honesty that hurts or offends. It's dishonesty that hurts and offends. These questions would be unwarranted if the pedophile priests and certain higher ranking persons in the Church were not dishonest.
I would NEVER under ANY circumstances EVER allow a young male member of my family to be alone with a Catholic Priest. Im sorry, its just not safe...131
...nice little bit of profiling there...gee, lets see, we got single digit percentages of gay priests out there doing what theyre doing, which leaves 90 plus percent walking the line...and youre fine with slamming the entire profession...think youd do that with any other group of people, or are priests just special...
It's the man's family he's determined to protect! Are you like a scout or something working on behalf of pedophile priest -- trying to lead young boys to them to be sexually molested?
I’m just looking out for my family. NO CHURCH is more important than keeping my family from being raped by a man that they ought to be able to trust.
Why are Priests different? Because we as a society expect better. That and the RC does it’s level best to protect these evil monsters.
"You're right! We should stop making these payments"
Sadly, this is a big problem in the Church. Luckily, these pedophiles are finally getting moved out. I don’t see how making dirty jokes about such a sensitive issue or children being molested is funny, though. I don’t see it helping the problem. The Church deserves criticism, but Leno’s kind of criticism is useless.
I’ve seen people mention this would go away if priests were permitted to marry? How would it? If these priests liked women, they’d go out, and pick up women. They don’t like women. They like teenage and young boys. Marriage is not going to solve a homosexual or pedophile problem.
I’m a member of the Church because I believe in the core teachings of the Church. Some bad people have unfortunately infiltrated the priesthood and tried to destroy the Church from the inside out. Luckily, we are weeding these bad apples out, and we are bringing forward a stronger Church rooted in the teachings of Christ and its core beliefs.
You know, I do the same thing. I've rebuilt the interior of my home and constructed a 100' retaining wall recently rather than pay someone who will do only half as good a job as I would take the time and care to do. The thing is, even if I've never done it before, I just buy a book (something with lots of picture...I like pictures - lol!)
I agree, yet another level of infiltration by those who are more interested in an alternate agenda other than Christianity. Pedophile priests are only one front of the battle for the soul of the church itself.
There's a song in there, I can almost hear the guiter riffs...where Michael Jackson when you need him? ; )
Okay.
“I was raised a Catholic but have had nothing to do with the church since I was old enough to make up my own mind. A celibate priesthood is lunacy and does not work. One of the more ridiculous things I can think of is receiving pre-marriage counseling from the church if the one giving the advice is a celibate.”
All of this is from the ex-Catholic handbook.
I’m glad clear_case guy sees it for what it is, even if you don’t.
As it pertains to the United States and its citizens, come the following questions:
Out of the total number of known pedophiles, what percentage of them are not charged and put on trial?
Out of the total number of known pedophiles that are priests, what percentage of them are not charged or put on trial?
What's the average number of years a pedophile is sentenced to imprisonment?
What's the average number of years a pedophile that's a priest is sentenced to imprisonment?
Have pedophile priests names and pertinent information been entered into sex offender lists so that local communities can know their whereabouts?
Plus, there's many questions regarding the people that knew who the priests are that are pedophiles and those that harbored them rather than tell the police that crimes had been committed against children.
Priests excluded, I query whether, similar to the Church example, there has been an increase in pedophiles being caught whom try to settle out of court. If successful, are they put on the sex offender lists?
It's not honesty that hurts or offends. It's dishonesty that hurts and offends. These questions would be unwarranted if the pedophile priests and certain higher ranking persons in the Church were not dishonest
Are you like a scout or something working on behalf of pedophile priest — trying to lead young boys to them to be sexually molested?...
...this is what you get out of my response? That I’m recruiting children for priests? I respond to the guy lumping every single Catholic priest into this sexual scandal, which strikes me as virulent profiling...and you come out with this garbage...amazing...
Grunthor can correct me if I've misunderstood him.
IrishBrigade - The man is protecting his children and you chastise him for it. That the pedophile priest and the attempted cover up and big money out of court settlements, all done at the will and backing of the Church. And you’re trying to convince him that’s it’s okay to send his young male child into that corrupt institution alone with a priest and have him believe its safe.
Zon - Grunthor can correct me if I’ve misunderstood him.
I could not say it any better than the Irishman did.
“This is not persecution, it is current news and they deserve the criticism.”
except this “criticism” is factually inaccurate.
Most of these priests were not “pedophiles”.
Pedophiles prey upon pre-pubescent children.
Most of the abusive priests were homosexual ephebophiles.
Leno won’t acknowledge the homosexuality - so he uses a factually inaccurate term knowing most people don’t understand the difference.
I could not say it any better than the Irishman did.Zon wrote: The man is protecting his children and you chastise him for it. That the pedophile priest and the attempted cover up and big money out of court settlements, all done at the will and backing of the Church. And you're trying to convince him that's it's okay to send his young male child into that corrupt institution alone with a priest and have him believe its safe. 156
Zon wrote: Grunthor can correct me if I've misunderstood him.156
Did you mistake what I wrote above for what the Irishman wrote?
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