On me.
Posted on 07/28/2007 2:58:41 PM PDT by do the dhue
Jane Fonda likes it long and hard.
Just ask the Vietnamese Army.
Yes...I was only on there for a a couple of months in 1978, but we lost one of our planes and the pilot...our sister squadron. It was a cold cat shot, and the pilot ejected safely, but went down in the drink. He got tangled in his riser cords, and as I recall, they tried for about 15 minutes with the helo over him, a boat that had been launched and a swimmer in the water, the ship motionless.
This all took place several hundred feet away, in full view of the entire ship which had people in the hangar bays and catwalks watching. He went down and didn’t come up for a while. Eventually, they got him in the helo and got him aboard. I remember being in the hangar bay as they brought him down on the elevator and past my powerplants shop, doing CPR the whole time.
He didn’t make it.
I hate to say this because it might start the war up again, but if she wanted long, she should have tried an African Nation.
I had anti-aircraft guns in mind, not the other thing.
Anybody got the Thursday August 3, 1995 edition of the Wall Street Journal laying around? An interview with Col. Bui Tin who served on Gen. Giap's general staff was published. Here's a part of the interview (I have not found the entire article).
"Q: Was the American antiwar movement important to Hanoi's victory?
"A: It was essential to our strategy. Support of the war from our rear was completely secure while the American rear was vulnerable. Every day our leadership would listen to world news over the radio at 9 a.m. to follow the growth of the American antiwar movement. Visits to Hanoi by people like Jane Fonda, and former Attorney General Ramsey Clark and ministers gave us confidence that we should hold on in the face of battlefield reverses. We were elated when Jane Fonda, wearing a red Vietnamese dress, said at a press conference that she was ashamed of American actions in the war and that she would struggle along with us."
One site provided this link to other parts of the interview.
Here's one of Col. Bui Tin other comments: "Our forces in the South were nearly wiped out by all the fighting in 1968. It took us until 1971 to re-establish our presence, but we had to use North Vietnamese troops as local guerrillas. If the American forces had not begun to withdraw under Nixon in 1969, they could have punished us severely. We suffered badly in 1969 and 1970 as it was."
Of course this site is not a Eugene McCarthy Democratic Party or John Kerry Rat Party approved source like the esteemed Ed Moise.
This link above was provided by http://newsbusters.org/node/10406.
On me.
In point of fact the last US combat troops left Vietnam on March 29, 1973 as President Nixon declared "the day we have all worked and prayed for has finally come." On January 27, 1973 the last American soldier to die in combat in Vietnam, Lt. Col. William B. Nolde, is killed.
The South Vietnamese fought alone for two years after we left. The Vietnamese Communiists violated the Paris Peace Accords, which were signed on January 27, 1973. In early 1975, they invaded the South with 20 divisions. We did nothing in response. The US evacuated the Embassy in Saigon on April 30, 1975.
Nixon resigned on August 9, 1974 and Ford became the President.
Don't let the media and politicians in Congress effect the execution of this war and we will win it.
Yes and as I like to say, we've met the quagmire and it is us. Again!
We (the public) knew back then but we were the silenced majority except when it came to elections; to wit, we won 49 states to the Communists' enemy's one state, 1972.) No Internet, no modern talk radio (the "Fairness Doctrine"), no time for a street rumpus, we worked.
Another lesson is: watch out for authoritative "experts" like Ed Moise. To wit, he perhaps rightly states that Gen. Giap did not say such and such --- But! it's documented that at least one member of his staff, Col Bui Tin did say such and such. Why didn't the "expert" refute or acknowledge that? Another Clintonesque Rat?
The Commies have an answer to everything.
Hunter has is pretty much right here.
I say we debated the war before we went. We will have plenty of time to debate it when it is over. During the mean time, I think we should all show resolve.
Made the above link just a click away...
Giap does not try to conceal that the success of the final North Vietnamese advance to victory depended on the U.S. departure in 1975 and on the politically crippled position of President Richard M. Nixon. He also reveals the worry that surrounded the possibility of subsequent American reintervention in response to North Vietnamese offensive moves.
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No Joke.
JOHN KERRY =
Pictures of a vietnamese Re-Education (SLAVE LABOR) Camp
http://www.Freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1308949/posts
http://www.JourneyFromTheFall.com
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Where is Hanoi Jane's and MSMs outrage because of the treatment of our Soldiers in these Re-Education Camps?
The media and liberal freaks got all huffy over Abu Graib. I must have been to young to remember Hanoi's friends getty huffy over the treatment of our Soldiers in Re-Education Camps.
Was there outrage from the left over this?
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Sen. TED KENNEDY,
...who pushed a post-WATERGATE Democrat Congress into cutting off all our funding for the then Free-South Vietnamese to fight for their own Freedom with,
...went on NBC’s ‘Meet the Press’ earlier this year to lyingly tell the American People that “Only 100,000 people” lost their lives afer the Fall of Saigon in 1975 that he caused.
This after also lyingly telling the American People that America has now been in Iraq longer than we were in Vietnam.
Real Voices of CLARITY =
‘Making their voices heard’
http://www.ocregister.com/ocregister/homepage/abox/article_1741241.php
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