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Beslan video disproves official version -relatives
reuters ^ | Sat Jul 28, 2007

Posted on 07/29/2007 10:00:28 AM PDT by spanalot

BESLAN, Russia, July 28 (Reuters) - Previously unseen film proves that the bloody end to the 2004 Beslan siege was caused by security forces firing on a school crammed with hostages, not by blasts from within, a victim support group says.

(Excerpt) Read more at reuters.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: beslan; caucasus; globaljihad; govwatch; russia; terrorism
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No surprise here - besides these grenades, we know that tanks fired 7 shots at the school too
1 posted on 07/29/2007 10:00:30 AM PDT by spanalot
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To: JohnA; eleni121; Tailgunner Joe

ping


2 posted on 07/29/2007 10:09:17 AM PDT by spanalot
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To: spanalot; RusIvan

Complete disregard for the lives of hostages. Just like the “rescue” operation of the theater in moscow.


3 posted on 07/29/2007 10:19:16 AM PDT by BrooklynGOP (www.logicandsanity.com)
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“Just like the “rescue” operation of the theater in moscow.”

Yes - when they used a nerve agent without having enough antidote on had for all the hostages.


4 posted on 07/29/2007 10:21:51 AM PDT by spanalot
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To: spanalot

...not to mention the refusal to accept foreign help when it came to saving the sailors on Kursk.


5 posted on 07/29/2007 10:25:27 AM PDT by BrooklynGOP (www.logicandsanity.com)
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To: spanalot

I’m willing to call it a ‘hamfisted’ rescue attempt. At the same time, the anger should be aimed at the TERRORISTS.


6 posted on 07/29/2007 10:29:00 AM PDT by bboop (Stealth Tutor)
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To: bboop

There is also ample evidence that the FSB purposely let the terrorists in across the border so that this could all be staged and allow Putin to grab more power.


7 posted on 07/29/2007 10:32:44 AM PDT by spanalot
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To: spanalot

Nah, I wouldn’t go that far. The russian gov’t has a general disregard for human lives, that’s all.


8 posted on 07/29/2007 10:40:00 AM PDT by BrooklynGOP (www.logicandsanity.com)
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At the same time, the anger should be aimed at the TERRORISTS.

Well said.

9 posted on 07/29/2007 10:42:13 AM PDT by agere_contra
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To: spanalot

Not a nerve agent, but Fentanyl, a very powerful synthetic opioid. Puts you out with no warning at all. The counter-drug may have been on hand, but hospital staff were not told what had been used.

Mrs VS


10 posted on 07/29/2007 10:46:46 AM PDT by VeritatisSplendor
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To: BrooklynGOP

Well, actually there is very good information that the FSB let them walk in uncontested.

http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:WdPBNIR1eLYJ:www.iht.com/articles/2005/08/31/news/chechnya.php+beslan+border+%22allowed+the+terrorists%22&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=3&gl=us&ie=UTF-8


11 posted on 07/29/2007 10:55:47 AM PDT by spanalot
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No - it appears that the Russians ACTIVELY worked to make this tragedy happen.

http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=25360


12 posted on 07/29/2007 10:57:24 AM PDT by spanalot
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Basayev said he had deceived Russian intelligence services, who believed his terrorists would attack a government center in the regional capital and cleared a route at the border in hopes of ambushing them along the way.

Sure, but if anything it was a tactical mistake, not a ploy to let the hostage taking take place so Putin could "grab more power".

13 posted on 07/29/2007 10:58:22 AM PDT by BrooklynGOP (www.logicandsanity.com)
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You’re correct, the terrorists abducting children “started” this whole thing.

The facts are the facts. The children had been held hostage for a long time. Long enough that their continued health was a great concern. The terrorists had been systematically murdering male hostages. The place was rigged from top to bottom with explosives. The terrorists showed no concern about their own lives. They planned this attack so that they could take advantage of gaining the largest number of hostages and victims as possible.

Somebody had to go in and start killing. Unfortunately, many innocents died.

14 posted on 07/29/2007 11:01:28 AM PDT by 2111USMC
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To: spanalot
Image hosted by Photobucket.com

15 posted on 07/29/2007 11:02:28 AM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist)
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To: BrooklynGOP

It gets worse - lots of conjucture that the Russians even allowed recon missions weeks earlier.

http://www.asianews.it/index.php?l=en&art=4021

Dont forget that the FSB was found setting expolsives in Russian apt buildings - to blame the “terrorists”.


16 posted on 07/29/2007 11:08:44 AM PDT by spanalot
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To: Chode

I always wondered about the authenticity of this image.

Why would a hostage disable a hand by wrapping it in the hand like this.

Also, the grit under the nails indicates that this person was clawing thru something - if so, how did the cross emerge pristine and otherwise not ripped off the chain. Mine has broken with a few pounds of pressure.


17 posted on 07/29/2007 11:11:43 AM PDT by spanalot
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To: 2111USMC

“Somebody had to go in and start killing.”

Civilized countries often resolve these hostage situations by negotiation.

And whats up with using tank fire - 7 rounds - thats bound to kill more hostages than terrorists - and it did.


18 posted on 07/29/2007 11:13:53 AM PDT by spanalot
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To: spanalot

You don’t negotiate with terrorists. You kill them.


19 posted on 07/29/2007 11:17:30 AM PDT by 2111USMC
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To: spanalot
Image hosted by Photobucket.com she's one of the lucky ones... she survived!!!

that picture was taken after she was rescued. 8^)

ps she's still alive last i knew.

20 posted on 07/29/2007 11:22:33 AM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist)
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