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Ron Paul Dominates Non-partisan Straw Poll
TransWorldNews ^ | 8/27/2007 | staff

Posted on 08/27/2007 12:59:56 PM PDT by rface

Washington D.C. 8/27/2007 5:20 PM GMT (FINDITT - Top Story)

USAElectionPolls.com has an audience of about 67,000 visitors per month according to the latest statistics by Quantcast -- making it the most visited polling website with the exception of RealClearPolitics. The web site has been having an online straw poll for three days on voters' preference for the 2008 election; both Democrats and Republicans are listed.

Ron Paul is leading the group of almost 20 candidates with 51%. Even more impressive is that he currently has 1744 votes while the second place candidate Dennis Kucinich has 613 votes -- 18%. Ron Paul leads the next closest Republican competitor in the online poll 51% to 3%.

Ordinarily, very little can be made of such results. They could be flukes. The web site's target audience could be Ron Paul, etc. But USAElectionPolls.com gets an immense amount of traffic all across the United States and it is a non-partisan website that talks about all of the candidates.

The poll is still open and can be found on the front page.

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Rudy Giuliani........2%......(67)

Fred Thompson .......1%......(47)

Mitt Romney..........3%.......(119)

John McCain..........0%.......(14)

Newt Gingrich........0%.......(17)

Mike Huckabee........1%.......(46)

Ron Paul.............52%.......(2022)

Tom Tancredo.........0%.........(12)

Sam Brownback.........0%........(5)

Duncan Hunter.........0%........(8)

Barack Obama..........10%.......(381)

John Edwards...........3%........(97)

Hillary Clinton........5%........(180)

Bill Richardson........1%.........(30)

Dennis Kucinich........17%........(666)

Joe Biden..............1%..........(27)

Mike Gravel............1%..........(23)

Chris Dodd.............0%..........(6)

Al Gore.................2%..........(87)


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To: rface

Ron Paul was a guest for 45 minutes on Michael Medved today. He believed that the prosecution of WTC bombers in 1993 was the proper response to international terrorism on US soil.

Those men lived to see jihadists accomplish their goal and they plotted further attacks which were smuggled out by a treasonous lawyer.

Some “justice”.


201 posted on 08/27/2007 11:30:47 PM PDT by weegee (NO THIRD TERM. America does not need another unconstitutional Clinton co-presidency.)
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To: Eric Blair 2084
The Iraqi Constitution is not based on Sharia law.

Iraqi Constitution

Chapter 1

Article (1): The Republic of Iraq is an independent, sovereign nation, and the system of rule in it is a democratic, federal, representative (parliamentary) republic.

Article (2): 1st - Islam is the official religion of the state and is a basic source of legislation: (a) No law can be passed that contradicts the undisputed rules of Islam. (b) No law can be passed that contradicts the principles of democracy. (c) No law can be passed that contradicts the rights and basic freedoms outlined in this constitution.

And if you read on through to see who the lawmakers are going to be(Supreme Federal Court) you read the following

SECOND:

The Supreme Federal Court Article (90): 1st - The Supreme Federal Court is an independent judicial body, financially and administratively, its work and its duties will be defined by law.

2nd - The Supreme Federal Court will be made up of a number of judges and experts in Sharia (Islamic Law) and law, whose number and manner of selection will be defined by a law that should be passed by two-thirds of the parliament members.

Article (91): The Supreme Federal Court will have the following duties: 1st - overseeing the constitutionality of federal laws before they are issued. 2nd - overseeing the constitutionality of the laws and standing regulations. 3rd - interpreting the text of the constitution.

4th - ruling in cases that emerge from the implementation of federal laws. 5th - ruling in disputes between the federal government and the governments of the regions and the provinces and local administrations. 6th - ruling in disputes between the governments of the regions or provinces.

7th - ruling in accusations against the president of the republic, the prime minister and the ministers.

8th - endorsing the final results of parliamentary general elections.

202 posted on 08/27/2007 11:32:47 PM PDT by KDD (Ron Paul for President)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Not only that but Pat Buchanan, though chronically wrong on foreign policy in recent years, at least had the sense to be a patriot and a rational human being and, once war began, to zip his lip on it consistent with patriotism and American tradition.

PaleoPaulie has the effrontery to give active aid and comfort to our enemies in time of war.

203 posted on 08/27/2007 11:33:23 PM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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To: Eric Blair 2084
If you happen to be a supporter of paleoPaulie, I disagreee with you.

OTOH, your tag line is one of the very best. God bless you and yours!

204 posted on 08/28/2007 12:05:58 AM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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To: rface
We need a Tall, Strong, Handsome, Muscle Bound Texan

Maybe you two should get a room.

So this poll shows Ron Paul has as good a chance of getting the R nomination as Kucinich has of getting the D's?

Doesn't that tell you something?

205 posted on 08/28/2007 3:23:18 AM PDT by Darkwolf377 (Atheist pro-lifer)
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To: Petronski
Thanks. I had been waiting for the Black Cherry alert in particular. :O)
206 posted on 08/28/2007 5:19:31 AM PDT by jdm
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To: SJackson

The only time I’ve been called a she was a few years ago on either libertypost or libertyforum, a thread about the conspiracy at FR.

(chuckle)

You oughta get a load of what they call me in those two kook forums these days.....


207 posted on 08/28/2007 5:47:32 AM PDT by Badeye (You know its a kook site when they ban the word 'kook')
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To: KDD

Pulling out of Iraq

If you haven’t noticed, much of the world’s oil is coming out of the Middle East. The much of the rest is under the thumb of Socialists who wish us ill. China, Russia or the USA can influence the Middle East and each would have the ability to keep the oil flowing or shut it down.

Of the three, which would you like to see influence the Middle East?

If we start down the path of energy independence and announce that we would be building 10 plants to convert our shale into usable petroleum, open up our coasts to offshore drilling and if we announce we were going to build 40 nuclear plants in 7 years, I wouldn’t care quite so much who had their finger on the spigot. That isn’t going to happen unless we purge our environmentalists and their cadre of lawyers.

Right now we have held at bay the nuts with nukes threatening the worldwide flow of oil. They potentially could damage the world economy by taking out oil production and refineries. I would consider that a threat to our security and justification for sticking our nose into the Middle East’s business.

There is a lot at play and many hidden strings that are being pulled to see that fail in our endeavor in the Middle East.

Who’s interests would be served by the Jihad winning the war?
Russia
China
Venezuela
The Democratic party
Most of the media
Most of Europe

That just makes me itch thinking about being in bed with that crowd. Doesn’t it seem strange that the Paulistinians would be encouraging freepers to join them?

Who’s interests would be served by the Jihad winning the war? Who’s interests would be served by electing a anti-war candidate and why wouldn’t they funnel money to organizations to push a presidential candidate that will lose the war to the Jihadists?


208 posted on 08/28/2007 5:53:39 AM PDT by listenhillary (millions crippled by the war on poverty....but we won't pull out)
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To: wideawake
>>>>We need a Tall, Strong, Handsome, Muscle Bound Texan

I thought Senator Craig worked with Romney.

209 posted on 08/28/2007 7:07:19 AM PDT by .cnI redruM (James Hansen; Scott Thomas Beauchamp with a PhD)
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To: bcsco
I do have to come to his defense...

Oh God...

The French did play a role in training, supply and they did use some of their ships, mainly to piss off the British. They even landed a few brigades under Count Rochambeau. It would have been a tougher fight without them, maybe a loser.

That being said, that was France circa 1770s...

And Ron Paul supporters are still a hoot...

210 posted on 08/28/2007 7:31:11 AM PDT by ejonesie22 (I don't use a sarcasm tag, it kills the effect...)
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To: bcsco
I do have to come to his defense...

Oh God...

The French did play a role in training, supply and they did use some of their ships, mainly to piss off the British. They even landed a few brigades under Count Rochambeau. It would have been a tougher fight without them, maybe a loser.

That being said, that was France circa 1770s...

And Ron Paul supporters are still a hoot...

211 posted on 08/28/2007 7:31:11 AM PDT by ejonesie22 (I don't use a sarcasm tag, it kills the effect...)
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To: listenhillary; All
Screw pulling out of Iraq.

Here you go:

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D8RA2P9O1&show_article=1

Iran expresses, once again, it’s desire to “fill the vacuum” when we leave.

The isn't going to be a civil war but an invasion of Iraq by a nation WHO WE KNOW wants nukes and to destroy us.

RON PAUL IS WRONG PERIOD, END OF STORY, NO MORE ARGUEMTS.

DAMN it is just plain foolish.

212 posted on 08/28/2007 7:42:48 AM PDT by ejonesie22 (I don't use a sarcasm tag, it kills the effect...)
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To: rface

You said Rudy is a baby killer but if I’m not mistaken, Ron Paul ran as a Libertarian in the 80’s and they are strongly pro-choice.


213 posted on 08/28/2007 7:53:30 AM PDT by Mister Politics (www.misterpolitics.com)
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To: ejonesie22

Your link might be to a more detailed version of the Drudge

Iran vows to take over Iraq
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1887681/posts


214 posted on 08/28/2007 7:59:17 AM PDT by listenhillary (millions crippled by the war on poverty....but we won't pull out)
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To: ejonesie22

breitbart.com got DRUDGED! (hammered)


215 posted on 08/28/2007 8:01:45 AM PDT by listenhillary (millions crippled by the war on poverty....but we won't pull out)
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To: listenhillary

I don’t know why, they aren’t a threat are they?


216 posted on 08/28/2007 8:30:05 AM PDT by ejonesie22 (I don't use a sarcasm tag, it kills the effect...)
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To: Jim Robinson

Ron Paul?

LOL


217 posted on 08/28/2007 8:51:58 AM PDT by A Balrog of Morgoth (QMC(SW) USN........ CG21 DD988 FFG34 PC6 ARS53)
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To: rface

Online polls mean nothing. Paul is not going to be the Republican nominee.


218 posted on 08/28/2007 8:56:05 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: rface; All

This is much ado about nothing. I don’t understand why so many people put so much stock in an online poll that has nearly zero validity. How many average americans actually responded to that poll? How many registered voters? How many who actually vote in elections? What, no way to give that information you say? The very fact that the top two candidates in this poll are RP and DK should be a huge indicator of just how lame this poll really is. Stop trying to make hay out of straw (pun intended).

SD


219 posted on 08/28/2007 9:00:22 AM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud Dad of a 2nd BCT 10th Mountain Division Soldier fighting terrorists in the Triangle of Death)
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To: ejonesie22

Too many hits. I couldn’t get the breitbart page to load.


220 posted on 08/28/2007 9:02:01 AM PDT by listenhillary (millions crippled by the war on poverty....but we won't pull out)
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To: CJ Wolf
We aren’t like batman and when the commisioner raises the internets ron paul ping we all come running.

I suspect (LOL) that we differ on Ron Paul, but I have to compliment you on a hand well played.
221 posted on 08/28/2007 9:02:35 AM PDT by A Balrog of Morgoth (QMC(SW) USN........ CG21 DD988 FFG34 PC6 ARS53)
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To: listenhillary

Too many hits. Ironic to use that term on a Paul thread...


222 posted on 08/28/2007 9:41:12 AM PDT by ejonesie22 (I don't use a sarcasm tag, it kills the effect...)
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To: ejonesie22
My reply to EEE was: "You're sure about that are you? And just when did they fight the Revolutionary War for us?"

His statement was that if it hadn't been for the French we'd be speaking the Queen's English. I disagree. And I was pointing out that they never, ever, fought the Revolutionary war for us. Sure, they helped, as I acknowledged in a later post. But to imply that had it not been for them we'd never have won is simply an opinion.

No doubt they helped, but to what degree that assistance was instrumental in "Amereica's victory" is open for debate.

I think your parting comment 'maybe a loser' is right on.

223 posted on 08/28/2007 9:42:30 AM PDT by bcsco ("The American Indians found out what happens when you don't control immigration.")
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To: rface

Your comments are stupid and hateful including one comment that is outright religious bigotry.


224 posted on 08/28/2007 10:06:39 AM PDT by EveningStar
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To: Badeye
You oughta get a load of what they call me in those two kook forums these days...

LOL. But you were a member of those kook forums for years, weren't you? Not that I care. But your injuries seem self-inflicted, at least in part.

Of course, I am glad you left the Dark Side and came back here.
225 posted on 08/28/2007 10:24:35 AM PDT by George W. Bush (Rudy: tough on terror, scared of Iowa, wets himself over YouTube)
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To: Mister Politics
if I’m not mistaken, Ron Paul ran as a Libertarian in the 80’s and they are strongly pro-choice.

He did. And they were.

But when they talked him into running under their banner, his pro-life position was non-negotiable. They did manage to get him to tone it down a bit but he was, as always, a pro-life baby doctor.

The LP's problem is that Ron Paul actually was the wedge opening for pro-lifers among their members. Now they don't take an official position because they have too many pro-lifers in the ranks. LOL.

Politics and strange bedfellows.
226 posted on 08/28/2007 10:27:18 AM PDT by George W. Bush (Rudy: tough on terror, scared of Iowa, wets himself over YouTube)
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To: George W. Bush

LOL. But you were a member of those kook forums for years, weren’t you? Not that I care. But your injuries seem self-inflicted, at least in part.

Of course, I am glad you left the Dark Side and came back here.

Only Liberty post. And it degenerated after the 2004 election cycle. There was a time you could have an honest debate there with all political points of view well represented.

I never actually ‘left’ FR. I just found at the time to much of the ‘echo chamber’ sentiment here back around 2002 - 2004.

As for ‘self inflicted injuries’ yep, thats the propaganda line the now unemployed sally likes to offer up in emails.

The fact she’s so dumb she doesn’t realize they get forwarded is kinda funny....(chuckle0


227 posted on 08/28/2007 10:31:41 AM PDT by Badeye (You know its a kook site when they ban the word 'kook')
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To: bcsco
True, it was with us not for us.

I was always astounded in my college studies of military history, many years ago, of how much French helped us. Though it may have been for less then altruistic reasons, more against the British than for us. It would have at least been a tougher, longer fight.

As for the loser, well, yeah...

228 posted on 08/28/2007 10:34:27 AM PDT by ejonesie22 (I don't use a sarcasm tag, it kills the effect...)
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To: Badeye
As for ‘self inflicted injuries’ yep, thats the propaganda line the now unemployed sally likes to offer up in emails. The fact she’s so dumb she doesn’t realize they get forwarded is kinda funny....(chuckle)

Oh, Badeye, just stay away from those kooks! LOL. Even the very conservative ones who used to post here at FR.
229 posted on 08/28/2007 10:50:42 AM PDT by George W. Bush (Rudy: tough on terror, scared of Iowa, wets himself over YouTube)
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To: KDD

Thanks for posting that. I doubt even Iraqi’s have read their own Constitution.

“Islam is the official religion of the state and is a basic source of legislation: (a) No law can be passed that contradicts the undisputed rules of Islam. (b) No law can be passed that contradicts the principles of democracy. (c) No law can be passed that contradicts the rights and basic freedoms outlined in this constitution.”

If anything, the above is completely contradictory. It may as well read “(a)The following statement is true. (b)The preceeding statement was false. (c)a and b may be reversed if suits Allah and the Quran.


230 posted on 08/28/2007 10:52:00 AM PDT by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: George W. Bush; Mister Politics

If anything, The Libertarian Party “punts” on the issue of abortion.

http://www.lp.org/issues/platform_all.shtml#reprodright

I.8 Reproductive Rights

The Issue: The tragedies caused by unplanned, unwanted pregnancies are aggravated and sometimes created by government policies of censorship, restriction, regulation and prohibition.
Recognizing that abortion is a sensitive issue and that people can hold good-faith views on both sides, we believe that government should be kept out of the matter, leaving the question to each person for their conscientious consideration.

The Principle: Individual rights should not be denied nor abridged on the basis of sex, age, dependency, or location. Taxpayers should not be forced to pay for other people’s abortions, nor should any government or individual force a woman to have an abortion. It is the right and obligation of the pregnant woman regardless of age, not the state, to decide the desirability or appropriateness of prenatal testing, Caesarean births, fetal surgery, voluntary surrogacy arrangements and/or home births.

Solutions: We oppose government actions that either compel or prohibit abortion, sterilization or any other form of birth control. Specifically we condemn the practice of forced sterilization of welfare recipients, or of mentally retarded or “genetically defective” individual. We support the voluntary exchange of goods, services or information regarding human sexuality, reproduction, birth control or related medical or biological technologies. We oppose government laws and policies that restrict the opportunity to choose alternatives to abortion.


231 posted on 08/28/2007 10:55:53 AM PDT by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: BlackElk

I am a big fan of Ron Paul the Congressman.

I am still not 100% sold on the idea of Ron Paul the President. That’s why I’m on the ping list.

What else is this forum for if not to listen to other presumably intelligent people’s positions?


232 posted on 08/28/2007 10:58:06 AM PDT by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: Petronski
”Squibble-dy dee!”

lol,, Is that really how you talk? Are you a munchkin from the land of OZ?

233 posted on 08/28/2007 11:04:25 AM PDT by monday
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To: Eric Blair 2084
What else is this forum for if not to listen to other presumably intelligent people’s positions?

Troublemaker!

Now take your assigned position in our circular firing squad. It only works if we all stand in a circle with machine guns!

Don't make me call the mods on you!
234 posted on 08/28/2007 11:13:27 AM PDT by George W. Bush (Rudy: tough on terror, scared of Iowa, wets himself over YouTube)
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To: Eric Blair 2084

If you read through the LP website, the tendency toward pro-abortion positions is there but is veiled. They’re too afraid of losing their pro-life segment.


235 posted on 08/28/2007 11:14:54 AM PDT by George W. Bush (Rudy: tough on terror, scared of Iowa, wets himself over YouTube)
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To: George W. Bush

Oh, Badeye, just stay away from those kooks! LOL. Even the very conservative ones who used to post here at FR.

Hey, I’m not the one running three times a month threads about where ‘Badeye is’ or ‘look what Badeye said at FR’....(chuckle)

You should see the emails, pro and con.....LOL!


236 posted on 08/28/2007 11:16:01 AM PDT by Badeye (You know its a kook site when they ban the word 'kook')
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To: George W. Bush

Do I have permission to leave the circular firing squad to go look that up?


237 posted on 08/28/2007 11:42:48 AM PDT by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: Badeye
Awwww...they just miss you, Badeye. It's so sweet. LOL.
238 posted on 08/28/2007 11:43:15 AM PDT by George W. Bush (Rudy: tough on terror, scared of Iowa, wets himself over YouTube)
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To: Eric Blair 2084
Do I have permission to leave the circular firing squad to go look that up?

No!! And it is against the rules to ask such questions.

Now: Ready, aim, ...

LOL.
239 posted on 08/28/2007 11:44:31 AM PDT by George W. Bush (Rudy: tough on terror, scared of Iowa, wets himself over YouTube)
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To: George W. Bush

Yes, I think even the most vile do in fact ‘miss me’. They can’t seem to go a week without my being the ‘topic’.

Hence my term ‘anti groupies’.


240 posted on 08/28/2007 11:51:36 AM PDT by Badeye (You know its a kook site when they ban the word 'kook')
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To: monday

Have you ever heard comedian Patton Oswalt?


241 posted on 08/28/2007 12:11:15 PM PDT by Petronski (Why would Romney lie about Ronald Reagan's record?)
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To: rface

A conservative believes in defending this country. Ron Paul does not. Just like the anti-American Democrats he makes statements supporting the enemy.

This poll is a joke and you know it. All I had to see was that it was on the internet and that made it obvious. Let’s see... Who was kicking ass on the internet 3 & a half to 4 years ago? Wasn’t that Howard Dean who’s a joke for a candidate with his extremist anti-American statements? Pathetic. Meet Ron Paul the new Howard Dean. Will he be losing it on stage also and become a comedic standard?

More news for you...Unlike you and Ron Paul many Libertarians want America to win this war. I’m almost as sick of you Paul-ites as I am of the liberals.


242 posted on 08/28/2007 3:56:40 PM PDT by GoodWithBarbarians JustForKaos (LIBS = Lewd Insane Babbling Scum)
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To: Jim Robinson

Right on! Great response to the Paul-ite.

The most amazing thing in this poll is Kucinich’s total:

“Dennis Kucinich........17%........(666)”!!!How freakin’ appropriate!


243 posted on 08/28/2007 4:07:34 PM PDT by GoodWithBarbarians JustForKaos (LIBS = Lewd Insane Babbling Scum)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
1) Only Arnold can win in California, McClintock is too conservative

Polling data indicates that HALF of those who voted for Arnold, thought McClintock was better but "couldn't win". So, do the math: if you take half of Arnold's vote tally, and add McClintock's actual vote tally to it, that was enough to win. In other words, McClintock could've had it.

244 posted on 08/29/2007 1:43:37 AM PDT by Rytwyng (They hand off my culture & citizenship to criminals & then call me racist for objecting?)
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To: GoodWithBarbarians JustForKaos
Unlike you and Ron Paul many Libertarians want America to win this war.

Which war? The meaningless phony war in Iraq, or the REAL war for America's survival -- the ongoing stealth war being waged on us by Mexico?

Count on Rudillary McRomnobama to continue the treasonous Bush sellout to the Mexican enemy. Paul, Tancredo, and Hunter are the only ones that show real understanding of what's going on.

245 posted on 08/29/2007 1:48:46 AM PDT by Rytwyng (They hand off my culture & citizenship to criminals & then call me racist for objecting?)
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To: rface
Tall, Strong, Handsome, Muscle Bound Texan

Ron Paul's gay?

246 posted on 08/29/2007 8:24:18 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (Fred Dalton Thompson - POTUS 44)
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To: All

All of the real, scientific, random sample polls have Ron Paul at 1, 2 or at most 3% of the vote.
http://www.pollingreport.com/wh08rep.htm


247 posted on 08/29/2007 10:49:34 AM PDT by jamese777
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To: jamese777
Photo Sharing and Video Hosting at Photobucket">
248 posted on 08/29/2007 1:26:25 PM PDT by ulm1 (Infanticide,Gay Marriage, Anti GOD, Environmental Nazis. Todays LIEberal DemocRAT Party Platform.)
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To: rface
"We don't need some cult religious kook! (you-know-who!)"

Way to make any mormon freepers feel welcome.

249 posted on 08/29/2007 2:46:22 PM PDT by mbennett203 ("Bulrog, a tough brute ninja who has dedicated his life to eradicating the world from hippies.")
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Hey, you forgot "with an always-present haze of pot smoke for ambiance."

Just messin' with ya. :)

250 posted on 08/29/2007 4:08:51 PM PDT by mbennett203 ("Bulrog, a tough brute ninja who has dedicated his life to eradicating the world from hippies.")
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