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1 posted on 10/02/2007 11:00:12 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem

It’s too hard to do...
we should quit.


2 posted on 10/02/2007 11:03:20 PM PDT by Samurai_Jack (ride out and confront the evil!)
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To: neverdem

From the post

“has unleashed an unhealthy obsession with standardized testing that has reduced the time available for teaching other important subjects”

I have a boy in first grade and all the teachers, if you can get then to tell you what they think, hate the test. There is so many other things they FEEL they should be teaching your child.

The largest sign in the school says “Save the Planet recycle”

I think I know what the “other things” are.


3 posted on 10/02/2007 11:17:34 PM PDT by Goldwater and Gingrich
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To: neverdem

Diane Ravitch wrote a very interesting book called “The Language Police”. It’s about how kids in school are losing access to good literature because everything offends somebody.

I got these three examples from the book from Wikipedia:

A true story about a blind mountain climber who scaled Mt. McKinley was deleted, allegedly because it implied that “people that are blind are somehow at a disadvantage compared to people who have normal sight”.

A story about a rotting stump providing shelter to various animals that contained a passage comparing the stump to an apartment building was unanimously rejected by a bias and sensitivity committee which felt that the reference was a negative stereotype about the residents of apartment buildings.

An entry describing owls was not accepted after a Native American member of the committee “said that owls were taboo for the Navajos”.


5 posted on 10/02/2007 11:40:58 PM PDT by I still care ("Remember... for it is the doom of men that they forget" - Merlin, from Excalibur)
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To: neverdem

Excerpt - Wikipedia:

President Ronald Reagan promised during the 1980 presidential election to eliminate the Department of Education as a cabinet post, but he was not able to do so with a Democratic House of Representatives.

In the 1982 State of the Union Address, he pledged, “The budget plan I submit to you on Feb. 8 will realize major savings by dismantling the Department of Education.”

Throughout the 1980s, the abolition of the Department of Education was a part of the Republican Party platform (snip)


6 posted on 10/03/2007 1:20:39 AM PDT by donna (The United States Constitution and the Koran are mutually exclusive.)
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To: neverdem

I sometimes wonder what the outcome of WWII would have been had government operated our factories, and I really wonder what language I might be using now.

Government, especially big centralized government, is ruining education.


8 posted on 10/03/2007 2:11:53 AM PDT by backtothestreets (My bologna has a first name, it's J-O-R-G-E)
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To: neverdem
If they teach to the test, at least the kids are learning what's on the test! It's better than nothing!
15 posted on 10/03/2007 11:28:32 AM PDT by justanotherfreeper
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Abortion as a Front Line in the Culture Wars

For Hillary, There's No Such Thing as Dirty Money The Nation mag is getting in on the fun.

Donors Stir 'Bundling' Questions (another "shoe") I missed the original story.

From time to time, I’ll ping on noteworthy articles about politics, foreign and military affairs. FReepmail me if you want on or off my list.

17 posted on 10/04/2007 12:21:09 AM PDT by neverdem (Call talk radio. We need a Constitutional Amendment for Congressional term limits. Let's Roll!)
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Shows what a great name for a bill can accomplish. :’) Thanks neverdem.


20 posted on 10/04/2007 9:23:51 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Wednesday, September 27, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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Public School Ping

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22 posted on 10/04/2007 9:44:46 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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ANOTHER REASON TO HOMESCHOOL

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23 posted on 10/04/2007 9:46:11 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: neverdem
The obvious solution is to reverse roles. Washington should supply unbiased information about student academic performance to states and local districts funding to the states without questioning if the schools are doing the job right. It should then be the responsibility of states and local districts to improve performance show that the students cannot perform and the schools need more money.

There, I fixed it. I'm guessing that's what the writer really meant to say.

26 posted on 10/04/2007 12:29:39 PM PDT by Tired of Taxes (Dad, I will always think of you.)
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To: neverdem; WOSG; panthermom; metmom; Tired of Taxes; leda; patton; SoftballMominVA; shag377
Many states claim that 80 percent or more of their students are proficient in reading or math at the same time that the federal assessment shows only a minority of students in those states reaching its standard of proficiency. We will never know how well or poorly our students are doing until we have a consistent national testing program in which officials have no vested interest in claiming victory.

What she's saying is that the states, which get to design their own tests, are making the tests easier and easier to avoid sanctions.

The states know that it's impossible to have every child (even the mentally retarded) proficient, no matter how long a time they are given.

Basically, right now the states seem to "cheating" to maintain the status quo. Ravitch is saying that if the government established consistent national standards, then let the states find ways of meeting them, at least you'd be able to compare the real quality of education from state to state and district to district, then the locals could decide how to improve things.

28 posted on 10/04/2007 6:16:12 PM PDT by Amelia
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To: neverdem

Give schools back to the local communities.

That’s who controlled ‘em back when they last worked.


39 posted on 10/06/2007 6:48:47 AM PDT by bannie
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